"You failed to understand one thing... I'm an idiot for thinking you were a friend.... bro."

How have I not been a friend?

"Yeah... fogglethorp is an idiot... I don't hear him crying the freakin blues about it like you are."

Foggle wrote:

"I will only address your comments toward my mother this way:
You obviously are devoid of worthy arguments against me, so you hurl desperate insults at my family. Don't worry, though. Everyone on this forum knows how you are.

Incidentally, I doubt you'd have the balls to make such comments to my face. And, if you did happen to muster the guts to do so, it would only happen once.

Idiot."

REALLY, not crying?????

"Yeah...so is that your ass or your face my pendulem hit... ya know I'm having a really hard time decerning the difference right now because I feel (now I may be wrong) you are talking out of yer ass at the moment."

OK, so are you going to answer the questions or defer to libel?

"Thats ok Ed, we all do it sometimes.. god knows I'm an idiot, I am even wrong on rare occasions. However, you are never wrong, that's cool too but damn man you sure as hell took the mucho grande idiot prize on this one brutha. Take a freakin bow for christ sakes and get off stage QUICK!!"

How am I wrong in this thread?

"Who gives a rats arse about ratings. You want the 84Bill seal of aproval or something?
By the looks of the last few threads I mean posts you have been stomping all over me, I don't care but I won't be your doormat for much longer."

Post examples where I stomped on you. I don't see it.

"So I called you an idiot.. big woop don't make me slap "the binkey" on your ass again."

If you have an issue or a personal problem, PM me.

"You are the most bi-polar person I know."

LOL

"No he didn't. If these were attacks on the concept of making generalizations, he would have prefaced or concluded with something about people that make these generalizations as idiots. This thread was about espousing right-wing hate."

Yes he did.. Your opinion sucks.

"Mitigate it to play? You posted 5 minutes after Foggle did with:"

"Hey Dude... no offense but your an nitwitted articulate idiot.

Can you dig that Bro?"

"And then it was all fun until someone made it personal to him. I can call people, as group or as individuals, names and unilaterally consider them generalizations, but that isn't reasonable in the context to which this thread has gone. It's a fun general game until it hits home I guess. At some time during an argument against hate, the person making the display must let the readers know it's demonstration against hate/generalizations; Foggle never did that anywhere in this entire thread."

You always ***** about people "calling you out" yet here you are calling Foggle out... Sup wit that dewd?

I was PLAYING the game.

"Does that mean I held up a mirror and he/Hugh didn't like what they saw? BS, this tread was about hate from the start. If I make a personal slander to you and you get mad, does that mean it's true?"

No Ed... YOU saw something you didn't like and chose to retaliate with your derogatory remarks about his family THAT had nothing to do with this thread UNTIL YOU made it so.

Then to top it off he calls you out in return and you continue to bash his family (who is defending him AND their own honor) IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE FORUM!!

"This thread was started by generalizations that became personal as people realized they were attacks about attributes that they possess. Like me saying all short people stink; that would be a generalization until a short person read it, then that person would be justified as taking it personally."

Again.. YOU took it personal THEN attacked.

"What's the matter, Billy, don't like your rating dipping to 50/50 when you venture to the, 'dark side' so you're gonna waffle your way back to the, 'right' side?"

LOL!!
I LIKE CHICKENS EDDIE!!!!!
(sorry for the juvenile reference to Ed Edd & Eddy)

"Ok, what exactly are trying to argue here? I just read a lot of hate without definition."

Unlike YOUR clearly defined hatred for Foggel Hugh and his wife you have displayed?

"I'm sorry, I would love to fasciliate you with the, "N" word, but I don't use it. I'm sure whn you vote in November the people at your polling place will be glad to use it."

I use it alot when I'm on the block BUT never in a corporate setting or where white people go "GHOSH did you just hear what that biggot said?" I'm a cracker, a kook, a fool, and an Idiot but I am NOT A BIGGOT and I am NOT a racist

"If you want to pretend that the slander against culture that have obvious racial tags was just not there, well, enjoy."

Nevermind slandering families of people you don't know but hate their son.

"Naw, I just wish you would go away from my posts, but that will only entice you."

I bet you do.. I want to as well BUT ya see I have this problem.. I told alot of people that you are a friend of sorts. Now I have two choices in this matter. Leave you on your own to look like a total.... jackass?.. lets keep the theme.. Idiot that will and does reflect badly one me NOW and in the future. Or smack the livin crap out of you until you get off this idiot wagon you are on... I prefer to slap the crap out of you BUT I don't particularly care for it since I happen to value you as a friend.

So please help me to make up my mind but be warned if you continue I will stop of my own accord.

I believe you owe fogglethorpe, and Hugh an apology at the very least.. His entire family would be even better but I'm sure your pride and ego does not allow for such things..

Bummer dewd.

Your snippet actually supports my assertion of bipolarity.

I wrote:

“You have definately had the largest paradigm shift of anyone on the forum. Not to say that's right or wrong with your direction, just that you are able to shift with your personal position/politics rather than find a party to follow and agree with everything they've done. Of course my opinion is that I like your politics now, but as you say you are subject to change.”

So you are apparently ‘changing’ again, or is that waffling?

“Yes he did.. Your opinion sucks.”

Ok, can you show me where Foggle made his thread an attack against generalizations? Please, show me where he in some way indicated that he was denouncing in any way the use of generalization.

“You always ***** about people "calling you out" yet here you are calling Foggle out... Sup wit that dewd?”

No, no, I never called him out, he threatened that if we were face-to-face that I wouldn’t suggest his mom was xyz, and if I did, I wouldn’t do it again. As for calling out in argument, I hate when people call me out, I spend time answering, and they coward away.

“No Ed... YOU saw something you didn't like and chose to retaliate with your derogatory remarks about his family THAT had nothing to do with this thread UNTIL YOU made it so.”

You know, you’re right Bill, this was a wholesome thread about racism and I went and diluted it with mom-bashing. It was so wholesome that Cliff moved it in virtually record time to the trash. I brought his mom/gf/wife into it as a way to ask why he was so racially angry; did a minority cause his mom/gf/wife to stray?

“Then to top it off he calls you out in return and you continue to bash his family (who is defending him AND their own honor) IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE FORUM!!”

And the shame should be mine since I am defending the concept of anti-racism?

“Again.. YOU took it personal THEN attacked.”

Where’s the argument there? You’re arguing a moot point. And then they took it personally. It was personal both ways, hence the trashcan.

“LOL!!
I LIKE CHICKENS EDDIE!!!!!
(sorry for the juvenile reference to Ed Edd & Eddy)”

Again, you didn’t answer the question.

“Unlike YOUR clearly defined hatred for Foggel Hugh and his wife you have displayed?”

I don’t, but you once again failed to answer my question.

“I use it alot when I'm on the block BUT never in a corporate setting or where white people go "GHOSH did you just hear what that biggot said?" I'm a cracker, a kook, a fool, and an Idiot but I am NOT A BIGGOT and I am NOT a racist”

I don’t think the use of the vulgar word automatically makes someone a racist, but where there’s smoke there’s fire. BTW, what’s wrong with African American? What would you like to refer to African Americans when race is being legitimately identified?

“Nevermind slander families of people you don't know but hate their son.”

Yea, Foggle is a real victim after starting this thread. I don’t hate anyone here. As for my remarks in this thread, they well deserved.

“I bet you do.. I want to as well BUT ya see I have this problem.. I told alot of people that you are a friend of sorts. Now I have two choices in this matter. Leave you on your own to look like a total.... jackass?.. lets keep the theme.. Idiot that will and does reflect badly one me NOW and in the future. Or smack the livin crap out of you until you get off this idiot wagon you are on... I prefer to slap the crap out of you BUT I don't particularly care for it since I happen to value you as a friend.”

And I was going to look up the definition of stalker; thanks for saving me the time. As for friend, you have some perverted sense of the word. On one hand, you act as if you are a friend and are going to save me from myself, but on the other you act as if you have a vendetta; just go away man. If you were a friend and thought I had a problem, you would take it to PM. I see that your rating has risen since you started busting my balls, so congratulations, take you green and go away.

“So please help me to make up my mind but be warned if you continue I will stop of my own accord.”

The former; I don’t need a, “wing-man” and you are borderline psychotic by your recent rants, so I would prefer the former.

“I believe you owe fogglethorpe, and Hugh an apology at the very least.. His entire family would be even better but I'm sure your pride and ego does not allow for such things..”

It’s nice to see that you have beliefs and convictions. I doubt the emergency/crisis counselors are over there keeping the family together right now. But your rating bar is higher and well back into the green, so, you’re welcome. I wonder if Foggle owes the minorities/vegetarians/humans/virtually everyone an apology for this thread of hate?

I do Ed..

Here is my PM

Christ man!!
I told you you have to watch out for fogglethorpe I said he is a slickster and you feel right into his trap!
Now you went and insulted his family and pissed off Hugh.

I mean I thought your post regarding his family was a bit radical but I NEVER thought you truely meant it. Apparently I was wrong and it's not been the first time.

Sorry if you don't like the way I'm coming at you but I feel you are heading in the wrong direction. What started off as a mind game had ended up with you getting brain damaged and now whouping up on the other players.. Jeaz man it's just a frekin mirror.

I forwarded the PM to foggle just to keep him on a low boil and save you from disgrace but when he tested your medal it melted down and went freaking nutz! Now I feel like a total ass because I defended you.

Yeah I like fogglethorpe, Hugh and I like you too but damn man ya really put the hammer down on them for what I see as a no good reason.

I duno, maybe I'm the one who is wacked out. Afterall I seem to have the reputation for being a nut case but I can assure you as I'm sure you already know I always extend my hand in friendship even after I knock my opponent down. Even when it get slapped away time and time again when I see a place to extend I extend.

Just ask ditch.. I may hate the guys views on politics, I hate the way he makes constant personal attacks agains me BUT I posted a reply in the tech section when he had a problem. Thats just how I am, it's nothing persoanl if he don't like the ramblings of a street corner bum. I put myself there to be kicked and I got kicked how can I get all bent up for the rest of my life about that?

Here is my hand Ed.. (LOL as if you havent seen it enough already) People are watching. Lets stop this game and thank the participents and the host.. It would go a long way in my books if you were to apologize to those that are deserving of it. I cant say I don't care because I do but the choice is yours and not mine.

Either way I'm sorry Ed.

You forgot about the masterbaiters.

Jesus Ed.
It aint about ratings.. I could give a rats ass about ratings and obviously you don't care either. Hey I can respect that about you but I'm NOT looking for positives. They just come as a trade off. The red has NOT move on click on my bar. who give a **** ?? jeasus.. now you got me on this rating crap!! good god man you are good at drawing people in.

As far as the "wing man" thing is concerned. We all need to have our backs covered. Well looks like EdsB52 is back in town and he got this thing covered.. By all means carpet bomb the hell out of the place, I'm headed to FARP.

Back to the ratings thing again? Ok....
No YOU did not give me the GREEN in my bar... I EARNED IT so don't flatter yourself Ed. Please by all means keep up your masturbatory rants with everyone.

Lastly
I digress, you are indeed an IDIOT!

I'll see you in the political threads...I'm interested to see how this will affect them.

LOL!!
Something about glass houses has me gunshy so I won't go there.