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phonedawgz
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DEC 30, 11:32 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by TXGOOD:
If Phonedawgz compares speeding and looking down to text as being an equal danger then you guys are never going to convince him otherwise. |
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I didn't say they were of equal danger.
I did say pushing buttons on your phone to text "k" and pushing buttons on your phone to call someone to say "OK" are of equal danger because they both require you to look at your phone and push about the same keystrokes.
I have no idea how some people can come up with how one of these two actions described above can be 100 times more dangerous than the other.
NOTE- I am talking about just the texting of the letter K and the one word sentence of "OK". I am NOT talking about how much some people who text go on and on and take their attention off of the road.
| quote | As this world has gotten more PC the grey area has gotten bigger and bigger.
Years ago there was a lot more black & white on any given subject and things seemed to work better.
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I don't think it has anything to do with more PC. I think it's just that we have had more time to examine what is happening. I had an uncle who died from being hit in the chest by a solid steering column. We put ones in that collapse. I have a nephew who died because he was thrown from the single car accident and wasn't wearing his seat belt. We now have airbags. We found out that airbags are good, but not for kids in the front seat, so we put them in the back. But then we found that in a truck you might have to have the kid in a front seat so we made a switch to turn them off.
Were we 'safe' at any of the points before? No
Are we 'safe' now? No.
Life is a lot more complicated than what can be expressed by a list of laws.[This message has been edited by phonedawgz (edited 12-30-2010).]
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phonedawgz
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DEC 30, 11:35 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by avengador1:
Yup, set my cruise control to the speed limit and stay in the right lane. |
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avengador1
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DEC 30, 11:35 AM
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| quote | If Phonedawgz compares speeding and looking down to text as being an equal danger then you guys are never going to convince him otherwise.
It`s like anything you do that requires a sighted purpose. |
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From one of my previously posted links.
| quote | | In the moments before a crash or near crash, drivers typically spent nearly five seconds looking at their devices — enough time at typical highway speeds to cover more than the length of a football field. |
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Car radios have preset buttons, some cars have the radio controls on the steering wheel, so these require minimal attention to change. I have a favorite radio station and have found no need to change it while driving. I do have other stations preset and a CD changer with preset buttons too. It takes less time to tend to these than the average text message and yet I still try to avoid doing any of these while driving. One bad car accident is all it takes to wisen one up, that is if they survive it.
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DEC 30, 11:36 AM
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Last night on the freeway at 65 mph I looked over and say a lady steering with her knees so she could hold the phone in one hand and text with her other hands index finger. Even dumber than knowing how to text and driving, is not knowing how to text and driving.
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lurker
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DEC 30, 11:41 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
Whatever - have fun with it. I quit teaching Sunday School so I guess now i can do what I please. Please make sure you do attack any Sunday School teachers you have in your church. They need to realize that if they teach Sunday School, then they are fair game for it.
I didn't teach Sunday School because I was or am a perfect person. Far from it. I did it to help the youth. When I taught I surely didn't pretend to be a perfect person.
I don't suppose you teach Sunday School?
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no, i don't teach sunday school. maybe because i don't go to church. probably because i'm not a christian. make of that what you will. i'm as (if not more so) interested in ethical behavior as anyone i know, churchgoers and minsters included.
as it happens, i agree with you on the black&white vs shades of grey question, as i dont believe in absolutes. but there is dark grey and light grey, and saying that dark grey isnt black doesnt make it white, either.
| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
Just how I am a Hypocrite. |
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i cant answer avengador's specific concerns, but the word hypocrite did come to my mind when reading your posts. here's why:
the problem with scout masters and sunday school teachers in this context is that they purport to promote a higher moral standard and level of maturity, which is inconsistent with behaviors that put others around them at risk. since you brought up the sunday school teacher and scoutmaster, it must have seemed relevant to you at the time, but now, you say it's unimportant. so why did you mention it in the first place?[This message has been edited by lurker (edited 12-30-2010).]
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avengador1
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DEC 30, 11:41 AM
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| quote | | Just how I am a Hypocrite. |
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You are trying to say you are a safe driver because you use your bluetooth headset to talk on your phone, when you drive, and yet you admit that you text and drive. Unless you have a hands free way of texting, you ARE using your hands and eyes to send a text message and you ARE a hypocrite and an unsafe driver. Don't you know when to stop digging this hole you are digging?[This message has been edited by avengador1 (edited 12-30-2010).]
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rogergarrison
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DEC 30, 11:45 AM
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I have Bluetooth and voice dial.... 
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phonedawgz
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DEC 30, 11:49 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by avengador1:
Yup, set my cruise control to the speed limit and stay in the right lane. This also saves me some gas, I can concentrate better on my driving, and I haven't received a ticket in decades.
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Heres what you said 4/21/2009
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avengador1 (avengador1@aol.com) MSG #3, 04-21-2009 03:15 PM
Wouldn't it have been safer to pull over to the slower lane and off the shoulder instead of the center median? It is riskier to merge with traffic in the fast lane than with that in the slow lane. I try not to drive more than 5 to 10 MPH over the limit, any faster and you are sure to get stopped.
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http://www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin...5545&style=printable[This message has been edited by phonedawgz (edited 12-30-2010).]
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1988holleyformula
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DEC 30, 11:55 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
I agree that texting on a busy road is just stupid.
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| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
Do I think it's safe enough for me to text on a open highway and not to loose my mind on the road. Yep.
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| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
Every example that people have posted do not qualify as "an open highway". So I am not sure who you are trying to convince of what but since your arguments are based on something other than what I stated I do you don't have an argument.
No I don't text where there are pedestrians. No I don't even drive 6 feel from someones bumper. I surely don't text then. I didn't even imply I text or post then.
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| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
About the kid who hit a biker while driving. Yeah I think the risk of texting when you have pedestrians, bikers, and traffic to deal with is fairly foolish. I think if you are texting while driving in town it's pretty foolish. I also think youth have a harder time splitting their time and knowing their surroundings.
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| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
And for many texting isn't something they should be doing while driving. I will REALLY say that for an 17-18 yo driver. They tend to crash more. They tend to loose concentration more.
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| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
The point I was trying to get at is everything has risks. To label something wise or unwise is back to the black and white. And to those who want to think black and white, they are just fooling themselves.
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| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
The great thing about being an adult is we all get to have our own opinions.
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Just because it seems like most are painting phonedawgz with a big ol' brush that portrays him as saying "I love to endanger everyone around me and take uncalculated risks"
And the part about him getting pulled over by a cop that sees him texting and driving, from what I have read, he doesn't do that when other cars are around, so logically, there won't be any police around when he's texting, so they wouldn't be able to pull him over.
I'm not gonna lie, last night while on the 3 hr drive on I35 coming back from Duluth, my dad texted me to ask if it was raining yet because it was in Rochester. I was the only vehicle on the road that I could see, so I texted him back "no." I calculated that there was a risk of doing it, but I figured his mindstate would be more at ease with a reply from me, and to let him know that the weather was nice for driving.
I guess I'm an immoral and lawbreaking citizen, but I think I can live with that... 
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avengador1
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DEC 30, 11:57 AM
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| quote | | Heres what you said 4/21/2009 |
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That was then, my driving habits have changed since I wrote that. Keep blabbling and digging, you are only getting deeper in the hole. 
| quote | | And the part about him getting pulled over by a cop that sees him texting and driving, from what I have read, he doesn't do that when other cars are around, so logically, there won't be any police around when he's texting, so they wouldn't be able to pull him over. |
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The cop you don't see is the one that usually gets you.  [This message has been edited by avengador1 (edited 12-30-2010).]
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