Real Fiero Tech - False claim of independence being declared (Page 8/18)
I'm Back MAR 15, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by crzyone:


A lot of us have a desire to ban you, but lack the power to do so (lucky for you).

You are a special case. You have absolutly 0 interest in cars. You are on the forums to talk politics. You don't contribute to either forum in any way shape or form. You are the definition of Troll. In case you have not caught on, nobody likes you, move along. Why don't you go join a political forum and argue with those guys? For once in your life you would actually be surrounded by like minded people.




You keep insisting on making this about me and not acknowledging the topic matter: Real Fiero Tech - False claim of independence being declared

See, they claim to anti-ban cause they hated where they used to hang out, then they ban. The only defense to their hypocrisy is to misdirect that and impeach me. NEWSFLASH: many at RFT behaved like me when they were at PFF and cried, started anither forum to get away from that club mentality, or so they say. Now they are the club. Funny how you are here at PFF defending the actions of RFT.

As for interest in cars, I have an 87GT-5sp, 99 N* motor, modded flywheel and cradle. I have the CHRFAB computer and CF clutch assy. I have it all to swap, just not the place to do it. I am big into cars, airplanes and skydiving.

If you didn't read, I am going away, I just wanted all to know of the lie about that independent place.
I'm Back MAR 15, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:


And what? You still haven't said what you're trying to accomplish. You're "shedding light" on something everyone already knows. And guess what? No one cares. WE all dislike you so much that we're willing to forgive RFT's hypocrisy in your case. You can try to equate me with RFT all you like, but no amount of twisting is going to change anyone's opinion of you. Just go away.



Does everyone know about the hypocrisy of the independent place? I wonder. I know they know it's kiddieland over there, but do they know it's a banning forum like they cry about PFF being? Hmm, w/o doing research, which I won't, I don't know about that. I think people might look at RFT differently now, but I don't care and won't know. So now you speak for everyone? I don't think you are qualified. I do equate you with RFT; wonder why? YOU'RE VEHIMENTLY DEFENDING THEM.


If you notice, the only people still caring about this thread are the ones from RFT. You feel as if you need to defend RFT from PFF's website? How odd. You should just go back there and do your thing.

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Fastback 86 MAR 15, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by I'm Back:


Does everyone know about the hypocrisy of the independent place? I wonder. I know they know it's kiddieland over there, but do they know it's a banning forum like they cry about PFF being? Hmm, w/o doing research, which I won't, I don't know about that. I think people might look at RFT differently now, but I don't care and won't know. So now you speak for everyone? I don't think you are qualified. I do equate you with RFT; wonder why? YOU'RE VEHIMENTLY DEFENDING THEM.


If you notice, the only people still caring about this thread are the ones from RFT. You feel as if you need to defend RFT from PFF's website? How odd. You should just go back there and do your thing.




No no, my purpose is much more simple: to get rid of you. You've been nothing but a detriment to both of these forums.

And besides, if you'd bothered to do any kind of research in the first place, you'd know RFT was about more than the banning. Yes that was an important tenant, but only one of them. And guess what? You're such a troll that you actually got them to break it. Congratulations, you're the worst of the worst. I hope you feel good about yourself.
I'm Back MAR 15, 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:


No no, my purpose is much more simple: to get rid of you. You've been nothing but a detriment to both of these forums.

And besides, if you'd bothered to do any kind of research in the first place, you'd know RFT was about more than the banning. Yes that was an important tenant, but only one of them. And guess what? You're such a troll that you actually got them to break it. Congratulations, you're the worst of the worst. I hope you feel good about yourself.




Now who's the martyr? I already got rid of myself. I was sick of kiddieland, but just hanging around, learned they 10-day banned me so I thought I would let PFFers know as I check out. I will probably get a new ISP and new name and use both for tech advice if I need it, or just to search the tech sections. I'm done posting on both forums, I don't see what power you think you have? I already post in other forums, I don't want to post in either Fiero forum and if I do, I will do so with a new ISP/username. Quit acting like you're doing some important task, I'm outy, I'm just dropping this message off. RFT will ignore it and act as if nothing happened and all will be normal; hypocritical.

The worst of the worst? This brings me to a point. A few have said they hate me. I just spent the last 2 months watching the Dale Hausner trial and verdict, now the sentencing will drag on, he'll undoubtedly get death x 6 and he needs to checkout. 80 total convictions of 87 charges. Anyway, some hate me, you say I'm the worst of the worst; what do you call Dale Hausner? When you call people the worst or say you hate them, you leave no room for guys like that (Hausner) and when you use extreme language for a guy thought by some to be an internet club irritant (me), what do you call Hausner? I ultra-extra hate him? He's the exponential worst of the worst? People use extreme language without thinking, I used to but I try not to. If you want to learn about hate, go watch a serial killer trial. That bastard flipped me and my GF's brother off. But he also flipped off a guy he shot and the mother of a dead soul. Get it? I'm the worst, you hate me? Define Dale Hausner, a guy I can say I hate. I don't even say I hate Radar for wanting to hit me accross the bridge of the nose with a baseball bat. Let's lower the tone a bit. Take care.
crzyone MAR 15, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by I'm Back:

I already got rid of myself.



Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Fastback 86 MAR 15, 11:22 PM
Blah blah blah...weren't you leaving?
hugh MAR 16, 06:53 AM
I had one transaction with you involving a seatbelt,after that I won't question your honesty.You are longwinded,and I don't like you after your PM to me many years ago because you misinterpreted my signature,and the things you said about me in a few threads on RFT.I don't like you,but I don't hate you either.If you come to this forum in the future for information,just read and leave.It will be better for everyone. I believe you are also here to test the water for a return,but it seems you have left bad feelings here and are remembered by too many people to be successful.

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Oreif MAR 16, 07:08 AM

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Originally posted by Fastback 86:

.......get banned from a forum that doesn't do it.



A "forum that doesn't ban" seems to have banned a few people.
I know a few who get this message when they try to log in:

Information
You have been permanently banned from this board.

Please contact the Board Administrator for more information.

A ban has been issued on your username.

While they may state "they don't ban folks" in reality they do.

As for this thread, Anyone who has been around for any length of time knows the "who" and "why" RFT was formed. Many no longer care.
This was just a thread so Ed could rant about RFT.

I agree with this quote:

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Originally posted by Formula88:

The point is you need someplace to vent and complain about them. You've apparently exhausted your time over their complaining about this forum and now look for an audience here.
I speak only for myself, but this thread serves no useful purpose and discussion about RFT is not welcome here. Please take your observations about RFT somewhere else.

p8ntman442 MAR 16, 07:13 AM

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Originally posted by I'm Back:

This loss of independence isn’t absolute though, as we see, some members have the ability to act independently, such as p8ntman442:

REPLY: it takes 2 to tango diggity.






Thanks Cupcake. Can you give me a positive before you leave?

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I'm Back MAR 16, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by hugh:

I had one transaction with you involving a seatbelt,after that I won't question your honesty.You are longwinded,and I don't like you after your PM to me many years ago because you misinterpreted my signature,and the things you said about me in a few threads on RFT.I don't like you,but I don't hate you either.If you come to this forum in the future for information,just read and leave.It will be better for everyone. I believe you are also here to test the water for a return,but it seems you have left bad feelings here and are remembered by too many people to be successful.





Everything you said is true for the most but the thing about me testing the waters to come back. If I wanted to come back I could have just come here w/o the controversy, brought flowers, laid apologies, the whole thing and slid back in. As long as I respected the pecking order I could have stayed with a big red bar. Remember, I just faded away with no problem or any issues. As I wrote from the very start, I'm here for this 1 thread only. If Cliff feels it inappropriate he can delete it, kick me or whatever he feels works. He has moved it to trashcan so far. I left here last in 04 I think without fanfare, I left due to this place not being for me and me not being for it. As you can see by my posting style here, at RFT or other places, I like the direct, unrestricted approach, so why would I want to be here for the long run? This is why I liked RFT, even though the intellectual level of discourse was sophomoric at times, it was unrestricted so they advertised, so they practiced for a while. W/o doing research, I doubt that has been brought up here before, I think they had the habit and reputation for being unrestricted and that there were no oustings. Either way, if it was known, call this thread redundancy. Again, I left here because this forum and me weren't a good marriage, I found them, knew some people from here and thought it would be a good marriage as we had the same ideas as to discourse rules. I didn't post a lot, other than recently because I just wasn't stimulated by the average intellect there.

As for transactions here, I sold a few things to people basically at the cost of shipping to be nice guy. A couple flywheels, tranny mount, stuff like that. I'm fair and honest and so was everyone else. What bothered me a bit was that some people were nice just long enough to get what they wanted. As I wrote, I don't belong here and I just wandered away 5 years ago or whatever it was. Now, why don't I belong here? Here, and many other forums, the emphasis is on the friendship, not the truth. Nothing wrong with it, most of society is that way. If you post the truth and it hurts feelings, you get downgraded. I'm a person that wants to be appreciated for it as I want to know truths and many have changed my views. And RFT wasn't really about the search for the truth, but you wouldn't be run out of town for it either, a certain permissive, mutual respect for demonstrating your version of the truth. I've become very good at citing data and the truths that accompany it, but some places don't appreciate that as a primary function so I just get away.

What really bothered me and prompted this one thread was that RFT advertised that kind of forum but were not. Truth is they have the same kind of pecking order as most forums where some people get away with hell, others with nothing. The same sociological phenomenon occurs with any collection of people, if they are transient to an area and then a collection of them decide to organize, people will scurry to find their place in the sociological order for that group; animals do it in the wild too. I see it in workplaces, pretty much every aspect of life, but some people who claim to oppose this natural urge to organize in this fashion base the rules of their group on this but most drift back into a pecking order style of community.

I could cite several examples of what I mean, but I've been very careful in this thread not to bring in an any external societal issues to exemplify what I mean. There's a thread in here in OT that I have lots of things to say about, but it would negate my purpose for being here for this 1 thread and going. I'm not here for any reason but to tell PFF that RFT is more like them than different. If PFF claims they know that, cool. If PFF doesn't care, cool.

As for read and leave, I will do what I want. If I wanted to post in any section, I could. I could get a new username and do what I want, so I don't need to be directed. I'm the one coming here honestly and in peace, telling people what I am going to do and why I'm here for this 1 thread. What is really bothersome to me and cements my idea for just wandering away 5 years ago is illustrated in the way people still have all this hate and/or dislike. It's an internet forum, there are real things happening in the world, our loved ones get ill, we get ill, the job front is horrible, the overall world is in shambles and yet people still have time in their hearts for hate and dislike over an insignificant aspect of life, they harbor feelings stemming from only words that transpired the better part of 10 years ago; amazing. I would think people might actually respect me for wandering away years go in peace, then I'm now here to peacefully pass on 1 message and leave.

Take care.