 
     |
| Sorry but i gotta ask, whats the story with Archie and Cletus? (Page 8/20) |
|
Oreif
|
JAN 09, 07:16 AM
|
|
| quote | Originally posted by summerjim:
Far less subjective than making guesses though. If you provided dyno results of 340hp instead of 350hp, I'd be happy to cut you some slack. Even if you posted 325hp, I'd cut you some slack on that too. But this isn't the point. Seems you can't see the forest through the trees on this one.
|
|
Actually that is not true. The mustang dyno and the dyno-jet use two different method's to read the power. The mustang always reads lower and there have been many, many arguments as to which dyno is the more accurate. Not to mention what gear you use in the dyno run and how they set the cal factors can have a huge impact as well. The most accurate is an engine dyno. It's just not practical to remove your engine to have it dyno'd then re-install it.
I have not run on a mustang dyno, But on a dyno-jet I ran 309 rwhp and the engine is rated at 355 hp, that makes it about a 12-13% driveline loss. Since my car runs 12.3 in the 1/4 mile, and based on the vehicles weight, I think the dyno-jet is more accurate. (my opinion) Others may disagree. But then again does it really matter? The engine is rated at 355hp by GM, If I say I have 355hp and if I did not dyno it, would that be misleading?
|
|
|
|
Saxman
|
JAN 09, 07:17 AM
|
|
My 0-60 times are like... 2.4 seconds or somethin' like that.
I guess that ensures you won't trade, Ed, because I know you do it in like 1.9 or somethin'
I love the SBC sound, too, but after that incredible ride in Lildevil's car, I love them both equally!
|
|
|
|
Doni Hagan
|
JAN 09, 07:51 AM
|
|
It stands to reason that the choice of a particular engine used in a swap is largely dependant on your driving style and performance needs/desires. For me, the 3800 SC would be sufficient but for others the V8 SBC, 4.9 or a Northstar is what makes them salivate. Whatever you have under your hood, if it's what you want, it's what you want and that should be the end of it.
I live in Archie's old stompin' ground (SW Michigan) and have had people who have never even ridden in a Fiero mention his name to me. Love him or hate him, the man's a legend in Fiero circles and IMHO deserves his props.
|
|
|
|
Fino
|
JAN 09, 08:01 AM
|
|
| quote | Originally posted by Saxman:
My 0-60 times are like... 2.4 seconds or somethin' like that.
I guess that ensures you won't trade, Ed, because I know you do it in like 1.9 or somethin'
I love the SBC sound, too, but after that incredible ride in Lildevil's car, I love them both equally! |
|
He who lies last lies best. 
Ed
|
|
|
|
Saxman
|
JAN 09, 08:30 AM
|
|
| quote | Originally posted by Saxman:
All I care about is if the owners are having fun. |
|
| quote | Originally posted by nfswift:
it's all the same goal, to improve the car, and everybody has their own way of approaching it weather it's tame or drastic. I don't see why more people can't understand that. |
|
| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
I have never came on here and said my car was better than anyone else's, but I have tried to share the fun I have had with it.
|
|
| quote | Originally posted by bmwguru:
I just enjoy building mid engined cars that are fun to drive.
|
|
| quote | Originally posted by thismanyfieros:
...its your car as long as your happy isnt that all that really matters???? just a thought...tim |
|
| quote | Originally posted by Fiero5:
Maybe as Jake said, you simply love the car and don't need to or care about numbers. I will be the first to say no problem, thats fine... if thats where it ends. After all, it is your car.
|
|
| quote | Originally posted by Doni Hagan:
Whatever you have under your hood, if it's what you want, it's what you want and that should be the end of it.
|
|
I see a recurring theme here. One of society's failures can't mess up the fun we are having.
|
|
|
|
Newbfiero
|
JAN 09, 10:01 AM
|
|
|
|
Jake_Dragon
|
JAN 09, 10:31 AM
|
|
|
|
|
Pyrthian
|
JAN 09, 10:46 AM
|
|
| quote | Originally posted by Fiero5:
Pick up any car magazine and what is one of the most common stats you see inside the mag besides the color of the car, style of rims and the type of engine? It's not only HP numbers but 0-60 numbers. And how do you get 0-60 and/or HP numbers?
It seems from every past thread on this subject that most of the Fiero owners on here who swap engines, especially the V8 owners, suddenly have all kinds of excuses as to why they don't feel the need to get verifiable 0-60 numbers or even have the car on a dyno.
....
|
|
proper tuning of a motor REQUIRES a dyno run.
and, a decent dyno shop can generate a reasonable set of 0-60, 1/8 & 1/4 mile numbers. dragstrip numbers can vary wildly. I am sure I would NEVER be able to attain the numbers a "good" drag guy could with the same car.
but - anyways - what this says is: if they dont have a dyno slip - they are not done yet. or - its just a crate swap, and their power is anywhere between the rated power to 30% below that. or even lower - if they cannot manage to provide decent intake & exhaust systems to the crate motor - which is implied for MOST Fiero V8 setups.
has anyone managed to put a reasonable exhaust system on a SBC Fiero? most crate motors rated power has an assumption of decent exhaust manifolds.
|
|
|
|
Gokart Mozart
|
JAN 09, 11:46 AM
|
|
| quote | Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Pffft  if yours has that then mine must have two thousand. I know because my air filter is bigger. |
|
But is it orange, blue or yellow?
|
|
|
|
Fiero5
|
JAN 09, 11:49 AM
|
|
| quote | Originally posted by Pyrthian:
but - anyways - what this says is: if they dont have a dyno slip - they are not done yet. or - its just a crate swap, and their power is anywhere between the rated power to 30% below that. or even lower - if they cannot manage to provide decent intake & exhaust systems to the crate motor - which is implied for MOST Fiero V8 setups.
|
|
I get the feeling that some members seem to think that some actually do have dyno slips but now don't seem to want to admit it and show them for whatever reasons.[This message has been edited by Fiero5 (edited 01-09-2008).]
|
|
|
|
