I think we all need to cheer Archie up... (Page 8/20)
LZeitgeist JUL 18, 08:04 PM
Archie doesn't need to say a darn thing to any of this... kudos to him for not even acknowledging it.
Formula88 JUL 18, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by avengador1:

I think this whole thread was an ambush, set up to start a flame war with Archie. It's made it to page two with no reply from him. I guess he is just too smart to fall for the trap. Give it up guys, I don't think he is going to post here.


BINGO! We have a winner!

JohnnyK JUL 18, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by LZeitgeist:

Archie doesn't need to say a darn thing to any of this... kudos to him for not even acknowledging it.


or he hadn't seen it yet.. I don't think i've ever seen him in o/t.. course.. he can't respond now after that comment.

jstricker JUL 18, 11:10 PM
Ed,

So basically, you're condemning Archie because he's occasionally "nasty" with people and he "isn't always a nice guy".

If that's not a case of the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

John Stricker

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Originally posted by I'm Back:

"Basically Archie invented the only V8 install kit to pass the tests of time."

How about, 'designed?' Again, if you discover a cure for cancer and AIDS, you are a great asset to science and to all of humanity, but can you then get away with murder by saying, 'Gee guys, I've saved thousands, maybe millions of lives; how can I be condemned for taking one back?' I'm not calling Archie or anyone a murderer, I'm just using that as an analogy. Competence, sacrafice, and nobility are not excuses for (in my opinion) being nasty with people. After having said that, I would rather deal with people that are extremely competent and nasty than people who are incompetent but the nicest people. I haven't even seen Archie's stuff, so I'm not making an assertion either way as to the quality of it, but I have spoken with him and made the first impression judgement that he isn't always a nice guy.
Boomtastic JUL 18, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by I'm Back:

"Basically Archie invented the only V8 install kit to pass the tests of time."

How about, 'designed?'


The last time I checked, he who "designs" something from nothing therefore "invents" by virtue.
JohnnyK JUL 19, 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by Boomtastic:


The last time I checked, he who "designs" something from nothing therefore "invents" by virtue.


But Zumalt did it well before him.. So it's a 'redesign'..

Darth Fiero JUL 19, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by avengador1:

I think this whole thread was an ambush, set up to start a flame war with Archie. It's made it to page two with no reply from him. I guess he is just too smart to fall for the trap. Give it up guys, I don't think he is going to post here.


Nope, I didn't start this thread as an ambush or setup to start a flame war with Archie. Archie is his own traveling flame job, he doesn't need my help. The purpose of this thread was to ambush the brown-nosers of the PFF community...JUST KIDDING, that wasn't my intention, but it seems like that is what has happened.

I am not surprised that Archie hasn't chimed in yet on this thread. As with ALL people that share the same attitude as his, if Archie cannot compete in the arena of ideas, he has to retract to character assasination, along with the people who envy him. There is a pattern that has developed here on PFF, and I have a pretty good idea what it is:

Start: There is a topic that starts here on PFF that concerns the SBC, Archie, or is related in any distant way to the SBC or Archie. Generally, one of two things happens next. Either Archie posts, or someone who has a different opinion than Archie posts which in turn draws a response from Archie. In either case, what heppens next is Archie, in typical fasion, will jump someone's butt and then later play the victim, which will draw his followers in on the offensive. Then there is this thread. I post a quote from Archie and point out that it is his typical fodder and many people run to his side since he is now the "victim". Mastermind hit the nail right on the head. It doesn't matter who starts the mudslinging concerning Archie vs. the Difference of Opinion, the same people will ALWAYS run in to save Archie's ego.

The last time Archie jumped on me was in a thread concerning how to set timing on a TPI V8 in a Fiero. The person who started the post appearantly said something Archie didn't like and Archie responded with something to the effect like: "with that attitude you are not going to get any help from me". Fair enough. Well, seeing this I took the opportunity to help this person out by explaining, in detail, how to set the timing and why it has to be done a certain way. I figured a simple answer would not help the community as a whole, so I explained why in detail. Well in response, Archie countered with "thats what you get when you ask a question that can be answered with 2 sentences, a "know-it-all" who gives you 300 words". Nowhere in my post did I say ANYTHING about Archie. But that didn't matter to Archie or most of his followers. So yes, I jabbed right back, just like Archie would do but somehow you people made me out to look like the BAD GUY just because I helped someone out when Archie wouldn't. And now all these excuses people are making for Archie: "well, you pissed him off before, in another thread, so you deserve to have him follow you around and bash you". What kinda crap is that? Christ, some of you people treat this like it is a political campaign and Archie is running for office. Trust me, the internet and Archie are not worth your time and PFF would be a better place without the bickering.

I'm Back JUL 19, 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by JohnnyK:


But Zumalt did it well before him.. So it's a 'redesign'..


I stand corrected

Cliff Pennock JUL 19, 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by Darth Fiero:

Trust me, the internet and Archie are not worth your time and PFF would be a better place without the bickering.


And yet you start a thread of which you knew it could only have one possible outcome.

LZeitgeist JUL 19, 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by JohnnyK:
But Zumalt did it well before him.. So it's a 'redesign'..

The only way it's a 'redesign' is if Archie took parts from the Zumalt kit and started his work from those.

Besides, from what he told me, Archie did his first Fiero V8 conversion in 1986 with a leftover Camaro engine he had, once he found out that the Grand National engine he *wanted* to put in there was going to run him around $5000 from a junkyard. Where was Zumalt at that time?