Anyway, thanks to a few people in this thread (you know who you are) who obviously can't enter a conversation without name-calling, this thread is now in the Trash Can.

My sentiments exactly.

Ed, I don't remember you talking to me while I was working on the Scout, but a lot of people came over and chatted so you certainly may have. I was working on it because it had a severe oil leak on the valve cover, we wanted to leave pretty early Sunday, and I knew that on Saturday we'd be busy cleaning the car and getting it ready for the show.

I knew no more about how the show was going to be run than you did. Period. MFC was in charge of the show and I didn't have any more information than you. However, I've been to about a dozen shows in the last year with the car. At EVERY one, the time the doors opened was not when the cars were judged. If you got there when the show started, you had time to do some cleaning, set up the display, get ready for the judges, etc. I assumed that's what was going to happen at the show. I didn't know they were going to have running lanes or anything else. I simply didn't know.

I chose not to go to Milan, although I'd have liked to, because I needed to get the Scout ready to leave on Sunday. There are only so many hours in a day and that's how I used mine.

Regardless, even assuming you were correct, how was that information an advantage to me? If anything, it gave you as much time as I had. I guess I don't understand your point.

Chris and I know that it takes us about 2 hours to clean the car for show. We don't do it like a lot of the "show guys" do it, and our score reflected that. (For instance, there was some grease on the tie rod ends, etc., that the judge DID see and DID deduct for, rightfully so). Our car, like yours, is a regular driver and I don't pretend it's a show only car. I don't try to kill myself making it one on show day either. We just clean it up as well as we can and let the judges decide if it's good enough.

I'm glad you had a good time at the show. After all our emails while building, it was fun to meet you and see your car. It's amazing how many things we did almost exactly alike, and how many were different. Many of the things you did I liked better than ours. Your trunk was a good example and I have every intention of stealing that idea from you! BTW, feel free to steal any ideas you have from ours as well.

You see, I don't care if you do. I want you to have the nicest car you can, and have a good time working on it and driving it, just like we do. Anything else is just small potatos.

John Stricker
Kit Car/Re-Body Director
CFOGi

quote Originally posted by Fino: I HAVE TO ASK, HONESTLY: Have you EVER been to a car show where people were just cleaning their cars and have the car torn down for cleaning during the complete show and then be judged at the end of the show? I cleaned my car on Friday and woke up early to wipe it clean at 6:10am before the show. I was told you could have your car judged at any time you like. One car that competed against me John Stricker is on the Personnel and is director of “Kit Car/Rebody for CFOGi”. I asked him on Friday why was he working on his tow car and not his show car. I can’t remember what he said but he didn’t tell me because he had all the time he needed to do that the day of the show. If John is representing CFOGi in the Kit Car/Rebody it would be nice to be told the ins and out’s of how the judging of Kit Car/Rebody would be done. I thought his position in CFOGi was to HELP members not to compete with knowledge learned from CFOGi against them. I have never been to a show that you remove your car from your show spot to drive somewhere else to be judged. I have had to drive my car through a check point where they would make sure it would run, turn, stop etc. (Detroit Autorama) then you proceed to your spot and clean your car. At the start of the show you stop cleaning your car and can be judged at any time from the start of the show to the end and you are not told when you are judged, just any time between the start and end of the show. You cannot cover your car at night or you will be disqualified.

I never posted that, it was the doings of my father, I do apologize for getting mad and trying to defend the 20th, and trying to et things straight, but I regret giving my password to my father too. Sorry for acting like an ass.

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1984 Se, to be powered by a v8 from the GM family line.

Wow!!!! We feel bad about that. I've seen your car at 2 shows now.

At the Dells, it was on a trailer for the show. At Michigan it was on jack-stands.

We're gonna miss ya'.