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Cliff Pennock
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MAY 22, 03:30 PM
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Ok I have a bit of time now.
First of all, apparantly "Chris Dusome" turned out to be a returning banned member - but the rating system took care of him already. Second, it turns out "Telegram Sam" is Jeff Stillwell.
Jeff, in one of my last emails in response to one of your many emails (I think it was the one where you called me "filthy" and "despicable", but it could have been one of the many other insulting emails), I promised I would never allow you back on PFF. The many, many insulting things you said about me (in emails and in other places) and the many, many lies you told about me only strengthen this resolve. And don't go crying to people stating that you have no clue what my beef with you is. You know very well.
I don't know why you are back - probably because your own adventure in running a forum failed? I don't know since I haven't followed what you've been doing really (since I could not care less).
You simply insulted me too often to wave it off with "oh, that was last year, I'm a different person now". I've heard that one too many times already. Nor does a "I genuinly wish you well" in my "hospital" thread here make everything ok.
So I'm keeping my promise and ban you from PFF - again. If others have a problem with that, so be it. People know me well enough to realize I must have very good reasons for doing so. And I have. And you know it. So go ahead and send emails to everyone in your addressbook again saying how bad/childish I am. Or tell people I banned you because you canceled your monthly donation  . Or go whine on other forums what an ******* I am. I'm sure somebody will start a new thread about this post on another forum so you can all giggle how "ghey" this is. I don't care.
Seeing your posts, it shows me (and others) you haven't changed. If you had, there wouldn't be a single person here suspecting "Telegram Sam" and "Stimpy" are one and the same person. And your rating would be mostly positive. But people are and your rating isn't.
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Cliff Pennock
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MAY 22, 03:51 PM
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Oh, and everybody else, please refrain from gloating about it. I get no pleasure whatsoever from having to ban people from PFF. Personally I think all the bickering amongst Fiero owners is too stupid for words. Who cares who has the better engine, the better car, the bigger d--k?
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red GT
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MAY 22, 04:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
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Hey Cliff, what kind of flowers are these?
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8T6 GT[This message has been edited by red GT (edited 05-22-2006).]
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JazzMan
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MAY 22, 07:23 PM
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They look like some sort of tulip to me, though flowers around my house get mowed just like everything else does, hehehe...
Oh, and I'm not sure how I feel about this thread turning out like this... 
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Formula88
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MAY 22, 07:29 PM
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Jermz238
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MAY 23, 12:25 AM
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so telegram sam was stimpy?? that explains a lot, actually. i've only had the good fortune of meeting him once in person, and that was enough. o_0
not gloating, just expressing my surprise at this startling revelation
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Toddster
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MAY 23, 11:54 AM
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Wow, I haven't been to the trash can in ages....hey, what's this sticking to my shoe? 
Anyway, I got wind of Stimpy's banning...again, from another forum member. He wasted little time in sending me a nasty PM the other day so I don't suppose I blame Cliff one bit for the move. Although I'm sure Stimpy will cry victim yet again and appear incarnate as some other poster who manages to piss off half the forum in 200 posts or less before people guess his identity.
Perhaps this story will serve no useful purpose other than to allow me a cathartic experience but since we are in the trash can I can think of no better place for it. Jermz mentioned that he met Jeff. I was there that night and it was an interesting evening to say the least. It was the monthly meeting of the Golden Gate Fiero Club for which I serve as Vice-President. This was two months ago and it was a particularly large crowd that evening, 30 people more or less. Club attendance is way up and frankly it is one of the funnest evenings of the month for many of us. This night was special in that I got the chance to introduce Jeremy to the clu and give everyone a chance to see his finished car. It also gave us a chance to spark-up the congratulatory cigars that another member donted to the cause.
The evening began as its usual feast of war stories, tech tips, road trip plans, and Brian Geyer taking 15 minutes to explain something he could have covered in 30 seconds (love ya Brian ). As the night wore on I noticed a gangly figure I couldn't recognize at first talking to our club president Mike Leavitt. The meeting was winding down from the "formal", if you can call it that, segment and getting ready to move out to the parking lot so we could admire cars and light up the cigars when I offered this stranger a cigar. He simply held up his hand as if I had committed some offense. No problem, lots of others refeuse a stoggie too and i just moved on. Later in the parking lot someone said, "Stimpy sure is giving Mike an ear full". BANG! It hit me like a lightening bolt. The 6'5" stranger was none other than Jeff...80 pounds lighter. He lost a ton of weight and his face was gaunt and filled with stress fractures reminiscent of the picture of Dorian Gray (so much for my daily Oscar Wilde reference). As we all enjoyed ourselves in the parking lot Jeff came out and approached me, and everyone else went somewhere else. He looked at down at me with a strange smugness and asked, "So do you have something to say to me"? A million things went through my mind in a split second. I thought at first what could he be talking about? Then I thought about the arrogance of the statement. I knew from those simple words that here was a guy who 1) Thought I even recognized him, 2) Thought I knew everything about his life and somehow gave a damn, 3) Felt as if I, in particular, owed him something and, 4) had the nerve to ask me for it. My shock at the question quickly turned to disdain and I gave the most honest answer I could, "No, why do you ask"?, I said. Jeff's smugness quickly turned to ...I want to say dis-satisfaction, based on the look on his face, but only he can tell you what he really felt. I could see I let the air out of his carefully conceived plan for retribution/validation. He went on to tell me about his stay in a mental hospital which I knew nothing about and how he DESERVED and NEEDED me to apologize for some harm I apparently did him. The rant went on and at some point after trying to be as honest with him about why he is perceived as a selfish bottomless pit of need he finally confessed to what was bothering him with me. Apparently I had made a comment in a thread last year that upset him greatly. He screamed, "You called me the biggest pussy you ever met. Didn't you know I was in a mental hospital?" I remarked that I had no idea that he was ever in a mental hospital but that he was indeed the biggest pussy I ever met...and then I continued to smoke my cigar. Somehow, I don't think he was satisfied with this answer as he turned an odd shade of red. I went on to explain why his problems were not mine, how an adult learns to accept responsibility for his behavior AND feelings and that his feelings were not the fault or burden of anyone else, least of all me. I went on to explain more about personal responsibility, accountability, and happiness as being under each of our own control and not the duty of some other person, particularly not near total strangers of whom I was one. I don't think any of it sank in. He defended his actions that got his banned as if they happened AFTER the banning, blah blah blah. I really began to get sick of the warped reality that Jeff had created in his own mind to justify his value and simple excused myself. I went over to a group of club members, Jeremy was amounst them and recounted the event. Not surprisingly, no one seemed to sympathize with Jeff. He has had MANY opportunities to rejoin the club as just another member like any of us. But instead, he continues to insist that he deserves some kind of special treatment, that he has never done anything wrong, and that we are all the problem. Society is just mean and evil and selfish...couldn't possibly be the other way around.
So when Jeff came back onto PFF I was a little shocked. At first I thought Cliff had softened. It wasn't my business so I let it go but Jeff being Jeff couldn't help starting a thread about suing someone else because of his OWN negligence as if the other guy was at fault and I couldn't let it go. I told him once again how twisted his view of the universe is and true to his psychotic nature he HAD to get the last word. He went so far as to PM me. I ignored it of course but it proves that a leopard never changes his spots.
Jeff needs to remain PERMENENTLY banned because he will NEVER make a positive contribution to the Fiero community, let alone society as long as he thinks that he must first receive from it before he dares to deign it with his "many" gifts. What can I say, God does not operate on an Accounts Receivable basis.
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fierobear
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MAY 23, 12:34 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Toddster:
. But instead, he continues to insist that he deserves some kind of special treatment, that he has never done anything wrong, and that we are all the problem. Society is just mean and evil and selfish...couldn't possibly be the other way around. |
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Yeah, I'm sick and tired of the "blame game". I'm pretty sure he's managed to blame his problems and unhappiness on you, me, my wife, the members of Golden Gate Fieros, Cliff Pennock, Cliff's sister, Cliff's great aunt Edna, the board of directors of CFOG-I, the shareholders of General Motors, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, the guy who delivers Twinkies to 7-11, all the employees of Kragen in Salinas, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the California Highway Patrol, a guy from Watsonville named Frank, Artichoke Packers Union local 34, the woman who invented the recipie for S'mores, President Bush, former President Clinton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Arnold's dog Max...
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California Kid
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MAY 23, 12:44 PM
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Hey..........you forgot me! 
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lurker
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MAY 23, 08:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by avengador1:
As long as X isn't causing any problems I say give him another chance.
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to err is human, to forgive divine.
a fine, noble sentiment.
but how many chances should someone, anyone, get? after some number of offenses, including identity theft, some people clearly demonstrate that they are not interested in redemption or forgiveness. and some people use caring and sensitivity as a weapon, to imply their own moral superiority, or to paint themselves as victims and gain sympathy. in reality, they are blood-sucking leeches who will sacrifice anyone for their own perverse amusement. i see no point in continuing to put up with them, nor the people who support them. you go, cliff.
i see ive picked up two ratings since posting this. plus, minus, because or not because of this post? who can tell? possibly more important, who gives a flip?[This message has been edited by lurker (edited 05-23-2006).]
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