Cliff,

I think part of the problem is how at least I and possibly others understand "self moderating forum". Personally I would take that to mean leave you out of it and whatever happens, happens. There are a few rules that you have set up that are regularly ignored, there is nothing that any of us can do to enforce the rules. It is impossible for us to be the police. You are the only person here that has the authority to enforce anything. The few times someone has stood up to the trolls they get blasted with posts telling them to shut up and mind their own business (generally with language that also breaks the rules).

In your example of the people all watching the accident and no one calling 911 (do you have 911 there too? I guess I always thought that was a US thing) if they were self policing they would have helped out at the accident, not stood back and called the police. Do you want us to tell you? I would have thought that you would be getting hundreds of email a day just about the few people on here that are causing trouble. Self policing would mean to me to NOT be telling you, but for us to handle it without you.

Thank you for compiling this list.
I am going to give each of those guys a PLUS!

Why am I not surprised?

LMAO, that's just plain funny. *chuckle*

Welcome, everyone, to a fine display of human nature. Thumbs up to all of you out there representing.

Me, most popular? No. That being said, compare our ratings meters. I don't need to say another word.

Yes it does, but the problem is that it's not 100% fool proof.

I do get tons and tons of email and PM, but 99.99% of them are about lost passwords, questions about the Fiero, virus-mails, and the "thank you for signing up at our great pron site"-mails.

There are several reasons why. The first and foremost reason is because I really want PFF to be as self-moderating as possible. Heck, that's the reason I started PFF in the first place because I thought the email lists were over-moderated. But to protect the hard work I've put into this place, I've setup a few simple forum rules. Grossly violating those rules is the only reason I will ban someone without looking at someone's ratingsbar.

Ok, I have to be really honest here. This one sentence makes me realize something I never even thought of before. I put a rating system in place so the members themselves can vote someone off, yet I make it my own decision to let someone back on. That ain't right. That ain't right at all. It would only be fair that - if the decision to boot someone is in the hands of the members - the decision to let someone back on should be in the hands of the members too. Hmmm, need to think about that one - what the best way is to implement such a thing.

No, I don't want to be the nice guy. I just refuse to ban people for personal reasons. Yes, this is my home but I didn't build it for myself or my personal satisfaction...

Neither.

LOL-- I really dont see how I fit into this group, being that I have only posted my opinion in very few threads. I am mainly on the Forum to sale parts that I have compiled and come across to ppl in need of them(which I sale cheaper than you can find else where). I would say, if I asked everyone that I have sold parts to give me a plus, then I would be well into the green. But I am not all about the rating system, being that it is corrupt and can be played in such a way to ban members that are not liked by others because of there opinions and thoughts. Yes, I agree some ppl on the list are trolls and take over every thread but I myself have posted in only a few threads expressing my opinion and then taking the quotes I recieve back and turning them into a flaming party. But with me only stating my opinion(which I always have proof to back it up), thats just a right that I have with this being a public forum. The quotes I recieve back have been alot harsher than the opinions I have given. The rating system only works for ppl that do not express there opinions in fear of getting a negative or for well known vendors who get back from other Forum members wether that member even has a clue about whats going on. People on the Forum tend to lean toward the words of whatever side has the most going for them, basically saying, well if he is giving that member a negative or feels that way about the subject at hand, then I should too. Once again this is how I veiw the whole rating system and how it works, but again this is my own personal opinion. I have talked to several ppl in chat that have bashed me in a thread and they never knew who I was. You can ask the ones that do know me from chat, that I am just a person with an opinion that is not scared to express it. So with that being said, either one of two things will happen, either my rating will go up or down, but for me either way is fine.