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pokeyfiero JUN 12, 10:09 PM
I forgot to mention that i heard a rumor that you were blaming the Easter bunny for your problems.
Dude the easter bunny?
Leave the rabbit out of this.He has a job,it aint much but he gets it done.

ok i'm really going back to WORK now.

84Bill JUN 13, 02:48 AM
I know things have gotten very heated and I am the one responsible for setting it off. It was never my intention to cause such a fuss or degrade this forum or what it stands for. Much like America it is a forum for the fiero people by the fiero people, you must understand I hold that in the highest regard.

About me, I am a very different thinker than most people. I have never though like most people do. When I was in school I was very frustrated because I just could not grasp what others took so easily to. It took many years to understand why. The vast majority of people are what I call linear thinkers, the follow a certain set of rules to arrive at a conclusion. I was never that way and it was not by choice it was be design. Ya see I have had ADD all my life and it has been both curse and godsend. One thing I have never been accused of (other than by those that don't understand) is being stupid. I know it is frustrating for some who do not understand what I am doing or the point I am trying to make.

Though I lack the fast acting solution I do arrive at the same point as others, I just get there a bit slower. I don't think in linear I think in composite, small bits over time that form the whole picture that is far more detailed than most will ever see. It is both curse and gift.

I intended this thread as all of my threads to be an eye opening experience. I am fully aware of my situation and I know what I need to do to resolve this issue. It differs greatly from others who demand I follow their lead. I will never be accused of being a follower because I follow my own path to arrive at the same conclusion. Just because that conclusion does not jibe with others does not mean that my conclusion is wrong. It's just different and right for me and that's all I really care about. I care about far more things than just myself if I didn't I would never allow myself to be subject to so many personal attacks. I'm not that stupid though most think I am.

In any case there are a few people on this forum that always disagree with my views and that's fine, it's a big world. Others just disagree with me because I am an idiot based solely on their beliefs and nothing else, that's fine too but only to a point. Just like everyone I have a need for credibility but credit is not what I need to be a member of this forum. It really never has been.

Pokey and a few others have sought to discredit me at every turn in every thread because I made some remarks about certain things. Those things I remarked on are true and valid and will always be valid for myself. I just can't stand it when I am constantly getting (picked on) slammed for my views by the same people so I seek to drive them off because they are nothing but a distraction to me and to you, my audience.

Pokey thinks I'm stupid and he has taken it upon himself to rid the forum of me, he is not alone in that idea. Pokey, I know damn well what you are doing and I played right into your hand didn't I? You saw Cliffs post asking me to find a better forum and took it upon yourself to kick me out. You had the blessing of Cliff to do it and that is all you needed.

Stevenormington on the other hand had engaged me in conversation for quite a few posts trying to understand. I understand you steve but this was my thread and I wanted you to understand something, not the other way around, nice try though. I understand your frustration because it IS very frustrating for me to know what I know. JRM-2M6 got what I was driving at. Thanks we have disagreed on many things and it was nice to see you give me some credit.

JayGee and all my other friends on this forum who have or have not sounded off until after my rage post. You have my apologies.

It should have never gotten this far, I stepped on Pokey's landmine and intentionally blew up. Had Cliff intervened and told Pokey to simmer down (I did in my (bad attitude) post above but it didn't work) it would never have gotten to this point. If the principal of the school sides with the bully then I'm toast anyway BUT I will not lay down and die without a fight!

I have too much passion and love for ALL the people of this forum to allow my feelings of hate drive me. I even sent Pokey a PM in addition to my post indicating that I recognized he hurt his back at work and I wished him well even though he badgers me constantly. I have no ill will toward Pokey or anyone, it's just not who I am.
I will however fiercely defend anyone I feel is being treated unfairly and it is not limited to myself, I will punch, scratch, kick and scream in defense of anyone worthy (Ryan) of defending. You may not think so but again that¡¦s just 84Bill.

There is no right way or wrong way to arrive at the conclusion to the questions that makes up our individual lives, we are all different people and I respect that though don¡¦t always agree with it. I don't need to follow the leader because I know the rules of the game and I want to get ahead just like everyone else, I want to be the leader too. That does not mean I need to do as others say just because they feel it is the right thing to do. It may be for them but it is not for me. I am not a slave to anyone and I do not need to listen to the master so I take my beatings with pride and dignity. No one owns me and I own no one else, I'm just a simple guy with a big heart and have nothing but the best of intentions for myself and everyone around me.

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has contributed positively to this forum. You are the people who make it great. Unfortunately the forum has lost it's luster for me, not because of Pokey ditch or BigBoysToys.. Ya know how I love you guys..errr people but because I have been sold down the river by the owner of 84Bill.

I'm not trying to dis Cliff at all, I freakin love the guy! but he did indicate the possibility there were better forums for this. To be honest, I never ever bothered to look because I always though this one was the best in the world.
I guess I though wrong.

I'll hang out and lurk for a while, answer PMs and just sit back and watch but I feel too discredited by that statement to continue posting replies and creating threads that make you peeps think. Life to me is far more than money can buy. I hung on as long as I could but in the end, it's the end.

Have fun.

And Pokey, you really an inconsiderate are a jearkoff. Good thing you have a higher backing so enjoy the your time in the sun. Somtimes making people frustrated is my point, I know it all to well. However, In order to solve a problem ya need to figure it out, I never said my probles were easy and I never siad I was looking for the answers to them FOR myself. I already know them.
You just keep trying to smear crap in my face because that is all you see.. Well congratulations but don't shoot the messenger. I understand you Pokey more than you think. I know how frustrating it can be, it's all to obvious to me.

Anyway
Pax & Happy Fieroing
Damn cool cars aint they?

Oh yeah, one more thing. Asside from the guts and glory (or lack there of) please look up and tell me what you see.

[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 06-13-2004).]

Fastback 86 JUN 13, 03:27 AM
The ceiling? Sorry, once a smart ass, always a smart ass.

I didn't get a PM or at least name recognition in your post? I'm hurt Bill!

Sorry, I'm being a punk again. Really Bill, I never had a problem with you as a Fiero owner or forum member. Obviously, I did have a problem with your political philosophies, but as you say, the world would be pretty boring if we all agreed. It was never my personal intent to chase you off the forum, but I'll admit that getting you to stop these heavily controversial political topics was a goal of mine, if for no other reason than because of the way they seem to turn out.

I think Cliff meant the same thing. He doesn't want people leaving his forum bitterly, but he has a point. Its a Fiero board with an OT section, not a political discussion board with a Fiero section. Stick to the Fiero part, no one ever had a problem with you there.

I'll admit you've made me think, but you haven't changed my mind and from the looks of it, you haven't changed anyone elses. Its almost frustrating for me, cause you see what the trouble is (your own personal troubles), but you keep making these threads in spite of it and it keeps coming back to bite you in the ass. Leave the controversial stuff alone, its the only thing people hold against you.

Thanks for trying Bill, but as you said, enough is enough. No more of this.

Later dude, have a good life. I really mean that. We'll do our own things, go our own ways, and we'll be happier that way

pokeyfiero JUN 13, 03:58 AM
Hey Bill!

Now your blaming your troubles on me?
Do you ever lighten up.
you have gotten in heated arguements with everbody that doesnt know better and have said a lot of bad things to them.
What have i really ever said to you? Little piddily stuff is all.And why?
Cause your so easy.

Heck Bill your famouse.There are even poems about you.

Fastback tried to use logic
With Bill that aint real easy
Hard to logic with a bum
Who's lazy and real sleazy

now i'm not the author.I'm not that creative.But i do think this whole thing is funny.Just relax a bit .
And whats this whole thing about knowing what i'm doing?Maybe i know what your doing:-)

Fastback 86 JUN 13, 04:04 AM
The author of said poems kindly asked that some more be posted, in the spirit of good humor. After all, if we can't laugh at ourselves once in a while, we're gonna have a tough time making it in life.

Pokey attacked 84bill
He took him for some rides
Best lay off the silly sod
Before he suicides

84bill he had a problem
He is a useless bum
Now he goes in off topic
And proves he's also dumb

Again, I take no credit for these. If the author would like to, thats his perogative. As Bill would say, "Don't shoot the messenger." The messenger is perfectly capable of shooting himself in the foot (take this post for example. The things I do for friends).

84Bill JUN 13, 04:23 AM

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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

Hey Bill!

Now your blaming your troubles on me?
Do you ever lighten up.
you have gotten in heated arguements with everbody that doesnt know better and have said a lot of bad things to them.
What have i really ever said to you? Little piddily stuff is all.And why?
Cause your so easy.

Heck Bill your famouse.There are even poems about you.

Fastback tried to use logic
With Bill that aint real easy
Hard to logic with a bum
Who's lazy and real sleazy

now i'm not the author.I'm not that creative.But i do think this whole thing is funny.Just relax a bit .
And whats this whole thing about knowing what i'm doing?Maybe i know what your doing:-)


No Pokeyfiero it aint no pun.
who pushed the submit reply button, was I the only one?
it's all tit for tat that makes the world turn.
I am not the only one who will burn.
there is more to this world than just me.. me.. me..
all you need to do somtimes is listen and see.
so take what you want of me my pokey friend.
when the game is over the winner cashes the chips in the end.
winning the game is for what we all strive.
all in all no one leaves the table alive.
so what is the real deal you are asking of me?
my answer is simple, just look up and tell me what you see.

[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 06-13-2004).]

pokeyfiero JUN 13, 04:25 AM
ok how about this one ..no that one will get me in trouble ok this one is good

Bill and pokey met one night.
You could feel the love from here.
Bill he threw his glass at Pokey.
And covered him with beer.

pokeyfiero JUN 13, 04:27 AM
Eww another one.

Pokey was an evil troll
who followed bill around

Bill didnt like the troll
so he knocked him to the ground

pokeyfiero JUN 13, 04:30 AM
man im getting these to fast to post them

Fastback argued with 84bill
it wasn't in the clover

to cheer bill up that time
Fastback just bent him over


Fastback 86 JUN 13, 04:31 AM
Another in good fun

Bill he was a good sport
For taking all our crap
So we just let him loose
To give us all a ***** slap.