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olejoedad
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AUG 23, 06:57 PM
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Maybe rinse is trying to emulate JRB?
Or maybe JRB has been reading rinse's posts?
One has to notice the similarities in the qualities of the information from both sources.....
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randye
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AUG 23, 07:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
"Analyze This"
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OK I WILL

1.) The "USCP’s Office of Professional Responsibility" is NOT A COURT OF LAW. Accordingly, it CANNOT determine what is "lawful" or not. A "lawful" determination is only made by our JUDICIAL SYSTEM and thankfully NOT law enforcement.
Because you are a LEFTIST and do not understand our Constitution this fundamental distinction is beyond your mental grasp.
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2.) The USCP's POLICIES ARE NOT LAWS.
Policies are not enforceable laws anywhere in this country. Nobody can be arrested and prosecuted for not following a policy.
Laws are enacted by our ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES in the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH of our government. They are NOT made by law enforcement.
Because you are a LEFTIST and do not understand our Constitution this fundamental distinction is beyond your mental grasp.
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3.) 32 CFR § 516.29
(a) Federal Tort Claims Act (FTCA). (28 U.S.C. 1346(b), 2671-2680). A waiver of sovereign immunity which, with certain exceptions, makes the United States liable for tort claims in the same manner as a private individual.
(b) Federal Employees Liability Reform and Tort Compensation Act of l988 (FELRTCA or the Westfall Act, Pub. L. No. 100-694, 102 Stat. 4563 (1988) (codified at and amending 28 U.S.C. 2671, 2674, 2679). FELRTCA, by amending the Federal Tort Claims Act, makes the FTCA the exclusive remedy for common law tort claims arising from actions taken by Federal employees acting within the scope of employment. The law was passed to eliminate problems caused by Westfall v. Erwin, 484 U.S. 292 (1988).
(d) 28 CFR 50.15 (Representation of Federal officials and employees by Department of Justice attorneys [. . .] in civil, criminal, and congressional proceedings in which Federal employees are sued, subpoenaed, or charged in their individual capacities). These DOJ regulations set out the policy and procedures for requesting representation in individual liability cases. See also 28 CFR part 15 (Defense of Certain Suits Against Federal Employees, etc.).
(e) 28 CFR 50.16 (Representation of Federal employees by private counsel at Federal expense).
Because you are a LEFTIST who does not understand our Constitution and you believe in a huge, unfettered and omnipotent government this is beyond your mental grasp.
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4.) That PRESS RELEASE from the "USCP’s Office of Professional Responsibility" is what is legally known as A SELF SERVING DOCUMENT. It contains A SELF SERVING DECLARATION.
A self-serving declaration refers to a statement made by a party in his/ her own interest at some place and time out of court.
Self-serving declarations are HEARSAY. The purpose of the rule rendering hearsay evidence inadmissible is to prevent manufacturing evidence; hence self-serving declarations are excluded by courts.
Because you are a LEFTIST who does not understand our Constitution and laws and you believe in a huge, unfettered, omnipotent government this is beyond your mental grasp.
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Any time you need more of your bullshit "analyzed" just come on back, (which you compulsively do) and I'll be happy to prove you:

OH!, By the way did you see the big news from earlier in this thread?


https://politicofire.com/20...mp-or-others-report/[This message has been edited by randye (edited 08-24-2021).]
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randye
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AUG 23, 07:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Maybe rinse is trying to emulate JRB?
Or maybe JRB has been reading rinse's posts?
One has to notice the similarities in the qualities of the information from both sources..... |
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When rational people are so consistently, completely and ridiculously WRONG they normally would just STFU and walk away in shame.
The compulsion to always "Double Down On Dumb" is just bizarre.
That is actually comparatively benign though when you contrast it with the other behavior exhibited in 15 pages of this thread:
OUTRIGHT LYING IN MULTIPLE POSTS
INFERRING THAT MEMBERS HERE ARE NAZIS
ATTEMPTING TO FALSELY REPORT MEMBERS HERE TO THE FBI
The list goes on and on and those are just the "lowlights" of some of that behavior, but when 15 PAGES of it is taken in it's totality it paints a very vivid and sick picture.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 08-23-2021).]
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rinselberg
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AUG 23, 10:17 PM
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I had this at the end of my message on the previous page. The message where I posted up that press release of August 23 (earlier today) from the U.S. Capitol Police.
I had this, then I deleted it from my message--but not before saving it.
Forum member randye's previous message on this Ashli Babbitt subtopic of this "Insurrection" thread is too cumbersome to reproduce using the Quote function. That's because of his literally manic overuse of Boldface and Oversized Text, which creates something of a "mess" if an attempt is made to Quote his message. Anyone that interested (hard to imagine ) could scroll backwards from here to find it.
I can predict with near 100% certainty that if the late Ashli Babbitt family's lawsuit over this matter moves forward and results in any kind of favorable result for the family, forum member randye will return to this thread or some other thread and LIE to this forum by saying that I declared that nothing can possibly come of the Babbitt family lawsuit, except it's dismissal without any positive result(s) for the family.
I'm inclined to think that is the likely outcome--nothing gained for the Babbitt family--but I certainly cannot preclude that possibility, and so I am not (and have not previously) declared that some positive outcome for the Babbitt family's lawsuit is entirely out of the question. I have not (and have not previously said) that any positive outcome for the Babbitt family's lawsuit is IMPOSSIBLE, despite what forum member randye will almost certainly represent about me on this forum, if the future were to (eventually) result in some positive outcome for the Babbitt family's lawsuit
It's the kind of LIE that he's clearly addicted to telling on this forum--a LIE created by "randye" either intentionally, or just carelessly--I go with "intentionally"--distorting or misrepresenting something that another forum member has said.
If I were "randye" I wouldn't want to be anywhere near the curb when the sanitation trucks make their weekly rounds. Next stop: the city's compost heap.
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randye
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AUG 23, 10:29 PM
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randye
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AUG 24, 12:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg :
I can predict with near 100% certainty that if the late Ashli Babbitt family's lawsuit over this matter moves forward and results in any kind of favorable result for the family, forum member randye will return to this thread or some other thread and
randye will return to this thread or some other thread and LIE to this forum by saying that I declared that nothing can possibly come of the Babbitt family lawsuit, except it's dismissal without any positive result(s) for the family.
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WTF is wrong with you?
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg on 6-10-2021:
I think the first judge that sees either of the Ashli Babbitt-related lawsuits should dismiss in a "New York second" as "frivolous." .
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....AND AGAIN JUST YESTERDAY
| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg on 08-23-2021
That strikes me as propitious for my inclination to expect that nothing positive for the Babbitt family will ever come from their lawsuit.
"Right or wrong" . . . there you have it.
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I shouldn't have to do it, but I saved screen images of those posts because you have a recent history of editing your posts and then claiming that you didn't do or say things that you actually did.....which is called LYING
Your cognitive disconnect is absolutely stunning.
It's obvious now that you spew out so much bullshit that you can't remember any of it....even less than 24 hours later!
You're completely unable to control yourself and have lost all sense of reality.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 08-24-2021).]
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randye
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AUG 24, 01:59 AM
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As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021
As of today only 570 individuals], (<1.9 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 35 individuals, (6.1 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".
As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".
As of today only 22 individuals, (3.8 %) out of the 570 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 22 individuals, (<0.07 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges
As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.
As of today only 1 needless homicide happened at the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC and it was committed by a Demorat with a documented history of mishandling his firearm.
As of today 1 unopened LEGO toy has been seized by the Biden administration as "evidence of a conspiracy" related to the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC
As of today the FBI has officially determined that THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION and that THERE WAS NO LARGE ORGANIZED CONSPIRACY BY ANY "RIGHT WING" GROUPS and that NEITHER FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP NOR ANY OF HIS ASSOCIATES OR ADVISORS WERE INVOLVED IN ANY PLANNING OF A RIOT OR VIOLENCE arising from the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of the January 6, 2021 rally in DC.
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rinselberg
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AUG 24, 02:42 AM
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| quote | After interviewing multiple witnesses and reviewing all the available evidence, including video and radio calls, the United States Capitol Police has completed the internal investigation into the fatal shooting of Ms. Ashli Babbitt, which occurred in the Speaker’s Lobby on January 6.
USCP’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) determined the officer’s conduct was lawful and within Department policy, which says an officer may use deadly force only when the officer reasonably believes that action is in the defense of human life, including the officer’s own life, or in the defense of any person in immediate danger of serious physical injury.
The officer in this case, who is not being identified for the officer’s safety, will not be facing internal discipline.
This officer and the officer’s family have been the subject of numerous credible and specific threats for actions that were taken as part of the job of all our officers: defending the Congress, Members, staff and the democratic process.
The actions of the officer in this case potentially saved Members and staff from serious injury and possible death from a large crowd of rioters who forced their way into the U.S. Capitol and to the House Chamber where Members and staff were steps away. USCP Officers had barricaded the Speaker’s Lobby with furniture before a rioter shattered the glass door. If the doors were breached, the rioters would have immediate access to the House Chambers. The officer’s actions were consistent with the officer’s training and USCP policies and procedures.
On April 14, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia announced it would not pursue criminal charges [against the officer] based on insufficient evidence. The case was investigated by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia and the Metropolitan Police Department. The administrative investigation was launched after the criminal investigation was closed. |
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"USCP [U.S. Capitol Police] Completes Internal Investigation into the January 6 Officer-Involved Shooting" USCP Official Press Release; August 23, 2021. https://www.uscp.gov/media-...y-6-officer-involved

The identify of the U.S. Capitol Police officer who fired the round that proved fatal to Ashli Babbitt remains officially withheld from public disclosure.
The number of active internal investigations by the Capitol Police into the use of deadly force against Ashli Babbitt is currently zero.
The latest word from the Capitol Police is that the officer has not and will not be subject to any internal discipline over the shooting of Ashli Babbitt.
The number of criminal indictments against the officer consequent to the shooting of Ashli Babbitt is currently zero and has not deviated from zero since the fatal round was fired into the body of Ashli Babbitt on January 6.
That is today's Breaking News.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 08-24-2021).]
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randye
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AUG 24, 04:11 AM
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sourmash
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AUG 24, 09:14 AM
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I don't know. Houdini copied a man (including his name) and did very well. In fact being an imposter has brought fabulous wealth and the highest obtainable amount of political power to a people.
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