28 dead (18 children) at an elementary school (Page 6/15)
Purple86GT DEC 14, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Lambo nut:


I'll bet you can't answer this question either. HOW?


Remember, in the land of the blind, a one eyed man is king, and when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns, etc.etc.


Kevin



That is the world you are creating in your mind.

Lambo nut DEC 14, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by Purple86GT:


That is the world you are creating in your mind.



You really don't have a clue do you? HOW?

Kevin
Formula88 DEC 14, 04:34 PM
Laws don't prevent crime.
Registration, licensing, testing and regulation haven't stopped drunk drivers.
Prohibition didn't stop drinking.
The war on drugs hasn't stopped drug use.

All the law can do is provide for punishment after the fact. Guns exist. Even if you ban them, criminals will find a way to get them.
No amount of words on paper could have stopped this tragedy from happening.

1 person with a gun could have.

I wonder how many people at that school are gun owners who weren't armed because you can't have guns on school grounds?
I think the most reasonable reaction is, if a facility decides to ban weapons then that facility takes on itself the responsibility of providing security of the people there.
Schools should be required to have armed security/law enforcement on site. It might not have prevented it, but it could have stopped it much sooner and saved a lot of lives.

We try to take common sense approaches to things like fire safety by being prudent with flammable materials, but we recognize fires will still happen, so you have to be prepared to extinguish one if/when it happens. A fire extinguisher doesn't guarantee you won't get burned, but your chances are much better if you have one than if you don't.
lurker DEC 14, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by CoryFiero:
let teachers, principals, visitors, whoever has a concealed carry permit, carry in schools.


ok, that might be a good approach. do we screen cc applicants for "whacko-ness"?
Purple86GT DEC 14, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by loafer87gt:

And what prytell is an "unplanned aggression?" The gun registry that you folks out east seemed to have such a love affair with did not reduce gun violence one damn bit. If someone wants to find a way to kill, they will - firearm or not. Look at the mass murder that took place in China where the weapon of choice was a knife. The problem is the individual, not the damn weapon.

And why am I also not surprised that you work for the Government of Canada. Perhaps a bitter leftover from the Martin / Chretien days jaded that their registry was axed?




Anything under murder 1 is unplanned...

The long gun registry is a cash grab and was doomed from the start. The problem is not hunting riffles it's handguns. Those are Illegal in Canada. You have the same laws as us here in the east, so calm down.

I agree that the problem is the individual, but the weapon facilitates the task at hand.
Lambo nut DEC 14, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Formula88:

Laws don't prevent crime.
Registration, licensing, testing and regulation haven't stopped drunk drivers.
Prohibition didn't stop drinking.
The war on drugs hasn't stopped drug use.

All the law can do is provide for punishment after the fact. Guns exist. Even if you ban them, criminals will find a way to get them.
No amount of words on paper could have stopped this tragedy from happening.

1 person with a gun could have.

I wonder how many people at that school are gun owners who weren't armed because you can't have guns on school grounds?
I think the most reasonable reaction is, if a facility decides to ban weapons then that facility takes on itself the responsibility of providing security of the people there.
Schools should be required to have armed security/law enforcement on site. It might not have prevented it, but it could have stopped it much sooner and saved a lot of lives.

We try to take common sense approaches to things like fire safety by being prudent with flammable materials, but we recognize fires will still happen, so you have to be prepared to extinguish one if/when it happens. A fire extinguisher doesn't guarantee you won't get burned, but your chances are much better if you have one than if you don't.



You are practicing common sense, stop it! It is not working here.

Kevin
Purple86GT DEC 14, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Lambo nut:


You really don't have a clue do you? HOW?

Kevin



If you mean how having gun laws would prevent fatalities from unplanned attacks? See my previous post. You are more than likely to walk away from a beating then you would from a shooting. If you wink at some guy's GF, he will punch you out instead of putting a cap in your ass. Now do you get it?
CoryFiero DEC 14, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by lurker:

ok, that might be a good approach. do we screen cc applicants for "whacko-ness"?



moot point: Is someone who has "whacko-ness" going to decide get a concealed carry permit just to go shoot up a school, or ignore the LAW like they do now?

Secondly, even if someone with wacko-ness managed to get a concealed carry so they could legally carry in a school... the numbers are now against them with other armed individuals in that school. It's a win win.

[This message has been edited by CoryFiero (edited 12-14-2012).]

Lambo nut DEC 14, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Purple86GT:


If you mean how having gun laws would prevent fatalities from unplanned attacks? See my previous post. You are more than likely to walk away from a beating then you would from a shooting. If you wink at some guy's GF, he will punch you out instead of putting a cap in your ass. Now do you get it?



You still don't get it do you. You seem to think if guns are outlawed, nobody would have a gun. Are you really that dense?

Kevin
CoryFiero DEC 14, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Purple86GT:


If you mean how having gun laws would prevent fatalities from unplanned attacks? See my previous post. You are more than likely to walk away from a beating then you would from a shooting. If you wink at some guy's GF, he will punch you out instead of putting a cap in your ass. Now do you get it?



I call trolling on this post. Please stop bring these jokes into a serious thread Purple86GT.