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phonedawgz
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DEC 29, 09:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by lurker:
"i'm a danger to everyone on the road, but it's ok because i mentor and set an example for children."
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Whatever - have fun with it. I quit teaching Sunday School so I guess now i can do what I please. Please make sure you do attack any Sunday School teachers you have in your church. They need to realize that if they teach Sunday School, then they are fair game for it.
I didn't teach Sunday School because I was or am a perfect person. Far from it. I did it to help the youth. When I taught I surely didn't pretend to be a perfect person.
I don't suppose you teach Sunday School?[This message has been edited by phonedawgz (edited 12-29-2010).]
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avengador1
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DEC 29, 10:07 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Phonedawgz
Sorry but MY morals don't come from a dumb a** like you. I suggest you work on your own. |
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So breaking the law makes you a moral person? Insulting me just shows your true moral fiber Mister. You are a danger to everyone who shares the road with you while you text. As I said before, you lack morals and while you text, you are distracted, and therefore not mentally awake.
Say what you want, you are wrong and have no excuses for this behavior. I just hope your loved ones aren't with you when you finally realize this, as you end up in a heap or possibly destroy someone elses life. You will only have yourself to blame when this happens, and believe me it will, if you continue to text and drive. The only dumb ass I see here is YOU.  [This message has been edited by avengador1 (edited 01-05-2011).]
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dmcgreene
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DEC 29, 10:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
I've had that. For sure a whole lot more dangerous than texting.
Better to park it kiddies and truly enjoy the moment. Don't forget to say thanks. And if she wants to kiss afterward just do it and better not make any funny faces or there will be no more tickets to that ride.
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ill keep this in mind for future references 
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phonedawgz
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DEC 29, 10:25 PM
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I break the law along with every other driver on the road who is going over the speed limit. According to you that makes everyone driving on the highway immoral by your definition. If you haven't figured it out yet, there is a difference between illegal and immoral.
The difference between you and me is I actually realize that everything is grey. You would like to pretend that the things you do that you think are ok, like speeding, like the other distractions are somehow ok. Your attacks like to judge me and my actions. Again I suggest you not worry about judging others and worry about yourself.
Asif somehow you now can think you can come off by saying that by defending myself after you attacked me makes ME have some problem with MY moral fiber? Come on. If you have a problem with me insulting you, then you surely have a problem with you insulting me. Oh wait that's right. When you do these things it's ok.
Yep that is what makes you a dumb a** in my mind.
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twofatguys
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DEC 29, 10:34 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by phonedawgz:
I break the law along with every other driver on the road who is going over the speed limit. |
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There are different levels of breaking the law, just like religion.
I can get a speeding ticket, and pay a simple fine, but if I shoot past a cop drunk, I will face a much worst punishment.
I kinda understand what you are saying in here, but it's a lost cause, and will only end in heartache. I don't think you are a bad guy, but Tuzzi used the words "kick it" in a retro ghetto way, therefore I believe we should all pile on him.
Shall I invoke Hitler?
Brad[This message has been edited by twofatguys (edited 12-29-2010).]
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Synthesis
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DEC 29, 10:38 PM
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My only other comment in this thread, then I am staying out of it...
The issue Phonedawgz, is that you are saying it is perfectly OK for you and everyone else to text while driving because you have not had an accident caused by texting while driving...
The general gist I get from your posts is that because YOU have not killed someone while texting and driving, then there is no cause for ANYONE to be concerned and that people are knee-jerk reacting to a problem you feel does not exist...
The reality is, texting while driving is VERY distracting for 90% of the people on the road, ESPECIALLY younger people. There are many deaths each year attributed to distracted driving, ranging from texting to adjusting the radio to reaching into the backseat to smack the kids.
There are numerous studies that have been done by reliable sources that have shown that reaction times go up considerably when a driver is distracted...
Yes, you taught Sunday School, yes you are a fine upstanding citizen (I say these seriously), but nothing you can do or say will justify breaking the law, intentionally might I add, as you have stated you are aware it is illegal and don't care, and putting other lives in danger..
If there is even the slightest possibility that you could kill someone by sending or reading a text message while driving, isn't it worth thinking about, and deciding to wait a little bit before you read and/or respond?
I say the above as an observer, not a participant in an argument... I am curious to see what a civil response will bring.[This message has been edited by Synthesis (edited 12-29-2010).]
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phonedawgz
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DEC 29, 11:08 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Synthesis:
The issue Phonedawgz, is that you are saying it is perfectly OK for you and everyone else to text while driving because you have not had an accident caused by texting while driving...
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NO NO NO
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I agree that texting on a busy road is just stupid. |
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Sentence two of my first post
What I said is everything has a risk. I HATE the black and white way people look at safe and unsafe. Just a few posts ago someone said it was 100 times more dangerous to text "k" than it was to call a person on the phone and say "ok". Basically the same number of keystrokes. You still have to look at the phone to dial it. I can't understand what makes one 100 times more dangerous to do. The point is you have to THINK about the risk and if the benifit is worth the cost. And again we ALL do things that have a level of risk to them. Turning on the radio and changing the station or putting in a CD and selecting a track have a risk. What I am saying is we need to think about the actual risk instead of applying over reaching artificial rules to them. Overreaching rules do limit us in doing things that have a reasonable risk but they ALSO imply that the things left out of the 'rules' are somehow safe.
There is no 'unsafe' and 'safe' There are only degrees of risk. We all decide where we draw the line. Some people would put a seat belt on just to back the car out of the driveway. Others don't wear them at all. Which is right? idk. I don't think we need to tell the person backing the car out of the driveway he needs to wear a seat belt. But then how far do you have to drive before it's 'unsafe' It's just where you draw the line because again everything has risks. The guy who doesn't wear his seat belt will say he feels his risks are reasonable.
Personally I wear my seat belt almost all the time. No I don't for backing the car out of the driveway.
What is right for others - idk
| quote | | The general gist I get from your posts is that because YOU have not killed someone while texting and driving, then there is no cause for ANYONE to be concerned and that people are knee-jerk reacting to a problem you feel does not exist... |
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Are you actually reading what I am posting?
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The reality is, texting while driving is VERY distracting for 90% of the people on the road, ESPECIALLY younger people. There are many deaths each year attributed to distracted driving, ranging from texting to adjusting the radio to reaching into the backseat to smack the kids. |
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And for many texting isn't something they should be doing while driving. I will REALLY say that for an 17-18 yo driver. They tend to crash more. They tend to loose concentration more. |
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(from my first post on this thread - Top of Page 1)
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../HTML/081277.html#p2
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Yes, you taught Sunday School, yes you are a fine upstanding citizen (I say these seriously), but nothing you can do or say will justify breaking the law, intentionally might I add, as you have stated you are aware it is illegal and don't care, and putting other lives in danger..
If there is even the slightest possibility that you could kill someone by sending or reading a text message while driving, isn't it worth thinking about, and deciding to wait a little bit before you read and/or respond? |
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And the same thing can be said for driving 5 mph over the speed limit. Yes it has a increased possibility of something happening. It is breaking the law. So again how is it that you can cut up what illegal activity is ok and what illegal activity is not. You most likely don't even consider your illegal activity to be illegal.
I do consider both speeding 5 over and texting while driving to be illegal. That is what the law says. If you try to argue that somehow it's legal because cops don't pull you over then it would also be legal for me to text because now I hold the phone down so cops can't see me text. Neither the fact that the cop doesn't pull me over or holding the phone down low makes my action legal. Yes I break the law.
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YOU intentially break the law and put others at an increased risk when you drive 5 mph over the speed limit.
but you also said
| quote | | nothing you can do or say will justify breaking the law, intentionally might I add, as you have stated you are aware it is illegal and don't care, and putting other lives in danger.. |
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It's impossible to reconcile driving 5mph over and that statement in a black and white world.
In a grey world we know that there is a reasonable increased risk with driving over the legal speed limit. We feel that that breaking the speed limit law also is a reasonable risk.
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So have you purchased fireworks that are not legal to use in Wisconsin? Have you broken that law? Have you put yourself and others in an increased risk of injury or death? Yeah I fully understand people think it's acceptable. An acceptable risk of injury. An acceptable risk of breaking the law.
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We all break laws at times. We do so knowing that we are doing something that is illegal but we feel the risk is acceptable.
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The way I see it, is I am willing to actually admit it.
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The problem with black and white thinking is being fooled by ourselves.[This message has been edited by phonedawgz (edited 12-29-2010).]
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phonedawgz
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DEC 29, 11:13 PM
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I also feel the 'Black and White' mentality is what gets people so riled up when the grayness is actually discussed. [This message has been edited by phonedawgz (edited 12-29-2010).]
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avengador1
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DEC 30, 08:25 AM
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| quote | | I break the law along with every other driver on the road who is going over the speed limit. According to you that makes everyone driving on the highway immoral by your definition. If you haven't figured it out yet, there is a difference between illegal and immoral. |
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So now you admit that you also speed. Are you doing this while you text? This actually is worse for you. The more laws you break the less gray things are. You also should know that two wrongs don't make a right. If other people break the law it doesn't mean you should too, so yes, every speeder is immoral because they are doing wrong and illegal to boot. You are the one who doesn't know what morals are so I'll post the definition here.
moral
mor·al [ máwrəl ]
adjective
Definition:
1. involving right and wrong: relating to issues of right and wrong and to how individual people should behave
2. derived from personal conscience: based on what somebody's conscience suggests is right or wrong, rather than on what rules or the law says should be done
3. according to common standard of justice: regarded in terms of what is known to be right or just, as opposed to what is officially or outwardly declared to be right or just
a moral victory.
4. encouraging goodness and decency: giving guidance on how to behave decently and honorably
5. good by accepted standards: good or right, when judged by the standards of the average person or society at large
6. able to tell right from wrong: able to distinguish right from wrong and to make decisions based on that knowledge
7. based on personal conviction: based on an inner conviction, in the absence of physical proof
moral certainty
So your morals tell you it is right to break the law?, mine don't. You already know what you are doing is ILLEGAL.
illegal
il·le·gal [ i lg'l ]
adjective
Definition:
1. against law: contravening a specific law, especially a criminal law
2. against rules: not allowed by the rules of something such as a game
3. not permitted by computer: not permitted in a computer program
I'm not judging you, I'm just stating facts, You still are the only dumb ass I see in this thread, fact. You are afraid to admit that you are wrong because you know you are wrong, fact. What you are doing is dangerous, fact. The harder you try to defend your actions the worse you look, fact. There is no Grey area here. You are a menace to other drivers and don't seem to care about being one, fact. You also want to defend this action, fact.
Fortunately, the law will take away your driving privileges if they catch and stop you. Maybe then you will realize how wrong you are, especially if you need to take a bus to get around. Hopefully they will stop you before you kill someone.[This message has been edited by avengador1 (edited 01-05-2011).]
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phonedawgz
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DEC 30, 09:52 AM
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Go away jerk
I surely don't need anything from you a** like you
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