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Fastback 86
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JUN 08, 04:38 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Pyrthian:
so go tune it then.
not your job you say? well its not Archies either.
its cute y'all think he's some kind of Fiero god, but c'mon, he is just a guy installing V8 into Fieros. and not even his own V8's. you bring him a sloppy smoke belching V8 - you are gonna get a Fiero that belches smoke. He has no magic "anti-smoke" potion he rubs on. but, it is cute you think he can..... |
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They (RFT) think he's a Fiero god? Which forum are you reading? As best I can tell, the root of all this is that THIS forum treats Archie like an infallible Fiero god (even when he's lying) that has done the Fiero community some kind of incomparable service by making an adapter plate and some mounts. Its the pervasive attitude that a SBC V8 is the coolest or best swap for the Fiero soley because its a V8, which is king in America. Nevermind that the most of the most powerful cars on the forum are running V6s. Worse than that, its this air of superiority that Archie carries with him because he's been treated like royalty for so long. He can get away with anything, whether its name calling, lying or generally being rude and dismissive because no one seems to mind the double standard. Why does he have some clout that no one else does? He can stride around here saying that the V8 is the best engine for the Fiero (despite its distaste for FWD transmissions), that its the fastest way from 0-100, that turbo 4 bangers are only fast over 160mph, or on his site say...
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Welcome to V-8 Archie's!! Here you will find the necessary products to make your Fiero smoke just about anything on the street. Not only do we know how to makeyour Fiero perform, we can help you make it look good also. Are you building that exotic kit car, but also want the power of the real thing? We can help. Not only do we concentrate on making quality products, but we have fast, friendly customer service. |
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...and when its time to put up or shut up, he either does neither or puts up a car that makes N/A V6 numbers and makes excuses (or lets others make them for him) about how he's no engine builder and its the owners engine choice and all on the owner, even when its the V8/6spd car he built for himself!
Disclaimer for the flamers: I have no vested interest in V8 Fieros. I live in a state where there are not an option. I do, however, have an interest in this board, and am sick of watching some members violate rules and act like jerks and get away with it because of their popularity while others are held to far more stringent standards.[This message has been edited by Fastback 86 (edited 06-08-2007).]
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Oreif
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JUN 08, 04:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fastback 86:
...and when its time to put up or shut up, he either does neither or puts up a car that makes N/A V6 numbers and makes excuses (or lets others make them for him) about how he's no engine builder and its the owners engine choice and all on the owner, even when its the V8/6spd car he built for himself!
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I think you missed the point made earlier that the car was built to showcase the 6-spd, Not max power out of a V-8.
What N/A V-6 in a Fiero makes 230-250 rwhp???
As for the quote from his website, Using his products to attach a GM crate engine to my car, It does make my car perform and the quality of his kit appears to be good since I have yet to hear anyone break a kit.
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crzyone
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JUN 08, 04:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Pyrthian:
I am coming from a place that knows that not all SBC's are the same, and just becauise "Archie" installs them, they dont magicly transform. and, more so - that installation is NOT tuning. just because Archie installs it, it does not magicly tune itself. a transmission adapter plate will not make a SBC run stoich. no homework required. Archie is just a guy installing SBC's in Fiero's. that is it. he is not a magical being. he cannot magicly transform a 185 hp TBI 350 into a 400 HP 377. your Fiero will contain the motor you provided or requested. that is it.
but, if you want to go and do his tuning for him, go right ahead. I am sure the customers would LOVE a free dyno tuning. especially from someone who does homework. |
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Again, no idea where you are comming from. This is Archies car. Archie said he installed a 377. Turned out bad numbers on a dyno for a 377 and was obviously running very rich. Archie comes out and says he really installed a next to stock 350. 230whp isn't too bad for the motor he supposidly installed but it is obvious it could possibly make more power with a tune.
All I said was he could make more power with a tune! Where exactly did I say he MUST tune the car? It was an OBSERVATION. Get it?
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Pyrthian
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JUN 08, 05:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fastback 86:
They (RFT) think he's a Fiero god? Which forum are you reading? As best I can tell, the root of all this is that THIS forum treats Archie like an infallible Fiero god (even when he's lying) that has done the Fiero community some kind of incomparable service by making an adapter plate and some mounts. Its the pervasive attitude that a SBC V8 is the coolest or best swap for the Fiero soley because its a V8, which is king in America. Nevermind that the most of the most powerful cars on the forum are running V6s. Worse than that, its this air of superiority that Archie carries with him because he's been treated like royalty for so long. He can get away with anything, whether its name calling, lying or generally being rude and dismissive because no one seems to mind the double standard. Why does he have some clout that no one else does? He can stride around here saying that the V8 is the best engine for the Fiero (despite its distaste for FWD transmissions), that its the fastest way from 0-100, that turbo 4 bangers are only fast over 160mph, or on his site say...
"Welcome to V-8 Archie's!! Here you will find the necessary products to make your Fiero smoke just about anything on the street. Not only do we know how to makeyour Fiero perform, we can help you make it look good also. Are you building that exotic kit car, but also want the power of the real thing? We can help. Not only do we concentrate on making quality products, but we have fast, friendly customer service."
...and when its time to put up or shut up, he either does neither or puts up a car that makes N/A V6 numbers and makes excuses (or lets others make them for him) about how he's no engine builder and its the owners engine choice and all on the owner, even when its the V8/6spd car he built for himself!
Disclaimer for the flamers: I have no vested interest in V8 Fieros. I live in a state where there are not an option. I do, however, have an interest in this board, and am sick of watching some members violate rules and act like jerks and get away with it because of their popularity while others are held to far more stringent standards.
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ooops - sorry - didnt mean to force you to buy a SBC. or make you feel so insignificant because you dont have one. and, sorry so many americans are free to choose whatever motor they want. oh, and sorry he really doesnt install the V8's he claims to install, or have body kits he claims to have.....yup...such a sham....
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Pyrthian
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JUN 08, 05:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by crzyone:
Again, no idea where you are comming from. This is Archies car. Archie said he installed a 377. Turned out bad numbers on a dyno for a 377 and was obviously running very rich. Archie comes out and says he really installed a next to stock 350. 230whp isn't too bad for the motor he supposidly installed but it is obvious it could possibly make more power with a tune.
All I said was he could make more power with a tune! Where exactly did I say he MUST tune the car? It was an OBSERVATION. Get it?
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so what? does it matter where I am coming from??
and more importantly - wtf is it to you what someone else does with their car? if someone wants a SBC - let them have SBC. observe all ya like. I care not.
if it is such a concern - race him or something, instead of standing around pointing & crying.
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FastIndyFiero
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JUN 08, 05:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Pyrthian:
oh, and sorry he really doesnt install the V8's he claims to install |
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Well, actually...
Anyway, as the thread starter, I just wanted to find out what the deal was with this dyno. I'll leave what I think about Archie and his swaps completely out of this thread. I searched the forum, I couldn't find any information regarding this run (yes, I looked in all the Daytona dyno threads I could find), and I wanted to find out if there was something wrong with the engine that had since been figured out, or if it had since been dyno'd.
Archie, say what you will about me, that's your opinion which you are entitled to.[This message has been edited by FastIndyFiero (edited 06-08-2007).]
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Zac88GT
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JUN 08, 05:19 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Oreif:
I think you missed the point made earlier that the car was built to showcase the 6-spd, Not max power out of a V-8.
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Don't you think that the 6spd would be better "showcased" if it was shown that it can handle a decent amount of power? If he reliably put down 400-500hp through that transmission i think he would have significantly more interest in that swap. I think many people are hesitant to use the 6spd because it's failure point has not been found, i know i am.
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p8ntman442
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JUN 08, 05:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by p8ntman442:
maybee the dyno operator had the ebrake on. Did anyone check that? |
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| quote | Originally posted by Archie:
FastIndyFiero, ryan.hess, crzyone, p8ntman442
It's funny that Shaunbag has his nutswingers come over here and post his garbage.
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jeesh I'm such a troll. Look at my red bar, its that way cause I used to hastle shaun. Then on RFT I called him out several times, and that makes me a nutswinger?
Bottom line is you said you dynoed a 377 making 230hp, and you dont expect people to make fun of you? Here is a quick freebie lesson, it takes two to argue. Shaun would just be a fly in the ointment if you didnt respnd to him, and nobody would think your "377" made 230whp. I think you made yourself look silly 3 times, one lying about the engine and making yourself look like you cant tune an engine, doing so to tease shaun, and lastly by showing up to a dyno event with a weak ass combination.
Grow up, and leave the name calling to children.
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ryan.hess
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JUN 08, 05:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Pyrthian:
so go tune it then.
not your job you say? well its not Archies either.
its cute y'all think he's some kind of Fiero god, but c'mon, he is just a guy installing V8 into Fieros. and not even his own V8's. you bring him a sloppy smoke belching V8 - you are gonna get a Fiero that belches smoke. |
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Again, I believe the car, engine, and transmission was bought by Archie, for Archie. This car was NOT a customers car.
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crzyone
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JUN 08, 05:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Pyrthian:
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Any time you actually want to read and comprehend my post then I'll actually respond to you. Until then!
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