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Jake_Dragon MAY 24, 10:25 AM
This tread started out in a bad direction.
I didn’t make it any better, for that I am sorry. Drug use by kids hits home for a lot of reasons that I really don’t want to go into and I think something should be done and if it means forcing restrictions on everyone to do it then I will have to vote for that.
It is sad that they have to group all drugs in the same restrictions but that can’t be helped.
Alcohol is a known killer much like crack and meth but I don’t see it being outlawed. I do believe that Pot is harmless but only in moderation and should have the same restriction as Alcohol. But drugs that cause addiction to the point that you cannot control the urge to use them and will go to any lengths to obtain them should be banned.

Bill I am sorry for my part in the attack against you, I have a pretty healthy opinion about addictive drug use and you got caught up in it.
Doesn’t change how I feel I just should have chosen a different way of expressing myself.

[This message has been edited by Jake_Dragon (edited 05-24-2007).]

84Bill MAY 24, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Adult drug dealers should be punished, what dont you get bill? Look its illegal to deal drugs, dosen't matter what your feelings are. Its immoral in my opinion to deal drugs to children.



No, they are just businessmen doing business, the childrens parents should be in jail for NEGLECT and CHILD ENDANGERMENT


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Most parents have to work full time jobs to raise a family, most of them do ok.



Well then maybe they shouldnt breed if they cant accept 100% responsibility for bringing a child into this world. It's not my fault they "dont have time" to tend to their responsibilities and I dont believe society should be responsible for them when the run amuck in the streets.


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You don't hear about them because its not news worthy.



So abandoning your kids and letting them run unattenses in the streets is perfectly acceptable?


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Its the ones that are just getting by, they need help and when they feel they are not getting it they excape in a crack pipe.



Oh is that what you think? The world according to Jake, bassed on Jakes feelings? Well I hate to burst your bubble Jake but this world isn't your sole domain and you are not entirely correct.


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Just like you said you need help sometimes people cant help themselves.



But thats not why I do what I do. When I need help I ASK and I GET IT but I was never asked to be a shepard for wayward children and parents who are derelict in their parental duties. I'm a responsible ADULT and commit no crimes yet my life could be utterly ruined because of this, Not becasue of a drug but because the average amerikan shtick thinks I'm a criminal. Makes no sense, I hurt no one, I steal nothing, I pay my bills and I act reponsibly.


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Targeting kids with drugs is wrong, somehow that infringes on your life so it must be someone else's problem.



Abandonoing parental responsibilities is criminal and the parents should be in jail. Not my supplier becasue he is just doing a job. Some suppliers have kids to support and they are HOME to do it... well sort of.


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Life isn't fair, just because we want something doesn't give us the right to get it no matter who else it hurts.



So put a fence up around amerika and declare to the world that amerikans are no longer free to decide for themselves as adults. Spend billions of dollars chasing your tail and make it easy for parents to become SLAVES and their children to become victims then turn all this around and blame one guy who wants nothing more than to get theough his life and utterly destroy it perminently. Yeah.. life does suck and sucks that no one is responsible for anything yet is held accountable for everyone elses mistakes... like having kids.

I know why society is falling apart at the seams and it has nothing to do with dopers and everything to do with parents who raise children without guidance. Kids these days scare me becasue they are out of control due to lack of adult supervision.


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Supporting drug use hurts other people, there are those that have it under control but there are more that don't.



You cant control the life of another adult.. It's their life so live and let live or villify then incarcerate them. You choose to impose your feelings and will OVER the rights of others to Life Liberty and persuit of happyness and that is a travasty of justice. The system is not designed to help at present and even if it was there are selfish ass holes like Phranc and Uaana who would rather SPIT on those who seek it rather than offer a helping hand.

So just becasue Jakey lost his friend to drugs it means that the drug is responsible??? it's like a gun... the gun does not kill, it is not responsible for murder but the person weilding is.

I can sympathize so I'll play my violyn for you but thats not going to stop me from living my life the way I WANT. Not you, not a law and certinly not a drug will do that. I'm responsible for myself and my actions so I'm very careful not to cause injury or damage weather plastered on dope or stone sober.



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Addictive drugs ruin lives lets try and keep them out of the hands of our children.



I agree I also feel that the parents should bear the bulk of the responsibility for allowing their children to run the streets UN ATTENDED. Life is addictive and use whatever I have available to enhance it for my own pleasure. Aint nothing I a good cheese steak or a good shot of Ohh yeah! Life is for the living so get out of my way, out of my personal business and let me enjoy it while I can... the clock is ticking down and I dont have much time left before it's all done.


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I don't know what else to say. Some of us get it and some don't.



Yeah... I know

Some of us are wrongly villified and some of us are the real villins. I can difirentiate between the two because I educated myself. I know, I been there done that.


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Ive been clean for 20 years, quit smoking 12 years ago and sober for 10. I'm weak.




The fact that you tried to blame society because drinking is "acceptable" indicates to me that you are weak and can not accept responsibility for that weakness.

I know why I do what I do and I dont go blameing society for my problems or my drug of choice but I do blame society for the way it is and it's ignorance of my rights.

Society is like a heard of sheep and the government is like a wolf. It's these sheeple who upon command move to allow the malapropos of law which is the real crime.

Life sucks Jakey
I dont care about your morality, and neither does most of the people I know.
I dont care about your laws and neither does most of the people I know
I dont care about your lack of responsibility for children or even the degree of responsibility. I'm not the criminal you are.

[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 05-25-2007).]

84Bill MAY 24, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
This tread started out in a bad direction.



Yeah.. it started off VILLIFYING me... as if I or my "friends" push drugs onto little kids when that is the FURTHEST from the truth.. But you know.. I dont care, my life will go on and I will continue living in reality, not some trumped up bullshit or hype. I know where the truth lies and it is so far from truth it may as well be a lie.


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Drug use by kids hits home for a lot of reasons that I really don’t want to go into and I think something should be done and if it means forcing restrictions on everyone to do it then I will have to vote for that.



I tend to agree but what you are doing is oppressing rights...
That then means you are replacing rights with a sociallist mentality and proponet of the sociallist movement where by everyone is responsible except those who should be.


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It is sad that they have to group all drugs in the same restrictions but that can’t be helped.



I agree but even celebrex is a killer. Water is a killer. Air is a killer.. JAKE!! snap out of it! Death lurks around EVERY corner..


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Alcohol is a known killer much like crack and meth but I don’t see it being outlawed. I do believe that Pot is harmless but only in moderation and should have the same restriction as Alcohol. But drugs that cause addiction to the point that you cannot control the urge to use them and will go to any lengths to obtain them should be banned.



Colesterol kills.. ban cheeseburgars, just look at the obiesity of 90% of America.. I'm 6'1" one hundred and ninty pouns. I look great for my age becasue I dont eat that many burgars. I'm smarter than that.
Cars kill.. ban cars people go through hell to get and keep them, its an OBSESSION.. hello.. look at the addicts on this forum.
Crack kills... Already got that covered
Drinking kills. Got most of that covered
Smoking kills.. Got nice income off that one


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Bill I am sorry for my part in the attack against you, I have a pretty healthy opinion about addictive drug use and you got caught up in it.
Doesn’t change how I feel I just should have chosen a different way of expressing myself.




LOL, it's okay Jake. We just disagree and thats fine.
Jake_Dragon MAY 24, 01:40 PM
Chop shops are illegal but I guess its ok if its not your car.

Going to take a break, I will wait for the movie to see how this ends.
84Bill MAY 24, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Kranc:

Bill if you're going to quote me use my name skanc is not my name.



Okay Skankie

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I'm still waiting for you to answer some simmple questions you have failed to do.



I'm not going to.

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Whay exactly is owed to you?
Why is it owed to you?
How much?
When will it be paid back?
How old are you?
Still live at home with mommy?
Still sucking at her teet?
What exactly qualified you to get wellfair?
Are you able bodied?



Nonya

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See you can call me a skanc like the mature man you claim to be while you're broke, lazy, begging, leeching, worthless, ass gets high but it doesn't change the fact you a loser. See all those names I called you are correct. Calling me a skanc is your desperate attempt to make me look bad. You fail at that like you have failed at being a good American. You are a lazy thief who steals from hard working tax payers and you brag about it.



LOL
I failed at being American because America doesnt exist. All rights have been stripped and replaced with privilage.. if you look at it really hard you will see that McCarthy was right but he was using slight of hand as is typical for gobments to do. Sheeple are just clueless heard animals being lead astray becasue they trust the words of the ones who feed on them. I'm am educated and I'm standing in plain sight chewing my cudd and watching the wolves have their way.


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Yes yes I know I'm just jealous of you and your pathetic reply will be "whatever".



You will live but there will be some swelling and redness for a while..


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What is your idiot drug addled self going to do when your wellfair cash cow dries up and you have to go back to work but can't because you can't piss in a cup?
But you keep doing your drugs and stealing from your nieghbours so you can get high. You're no different then the dope fiend who robs houses except your to lazy.



Yet more malapropos.. Jeaz Crankie put down the keyboard and back away for a bit.


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So Bill when did you start doing drugs? Was it before you were 18 if so your mommy who you still live with should have been locked up right? Because according to you its all the parents fault. Huh Bill where were your parents? Besides being leeched off of by their failure of a son.



Nunya.
84Bill MAY 24, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Chop shops are illegal but I guess its ok if its not your car.



Thats an entirely different animal Jake..


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Going to take a break, I will wait for the movie to see how this ends.



Oh probably the usual way.. me with the "last word" and a crapload more negatives .. but thats okay.. life is fun and I enjoy both the good and the bad.
Phranc MAY 24, 01:49 PM
So when called out you wont quantify your position. You're a coward. You know that you're worthless and answering my questions will expose you for the fraud you are.
84Bill MAY 24, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by 86GT3.4DOHC:
Some people are just blatently ignorant of the real world, and how things really work. Dealers would go into kindergarden classes if they thought the kids had enough money to make it worth thier while.



LOL that is such bullshit. Kid dealers might do that.. in fact I'm sure they do and their parents are responsible.. not me or my friends or even the drug..

84Bill MAY 24, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by Phranc:

So when called out you wont quantify your position. You're a coward. You know that you're worthless and answering my questions will expose you for the fraud you are.



I'm not standing before an inquisition.
I do not need to quantify anything except demand my rights and you must respect them.
I am far from a coward. I have taken on an ENTIRE SYSTEM and I stand my ground and defend my position against something akin to a Abrams Tank at full speed and with a kill or be killed mentality. I'm fighting an uphill battle, I'm pissin into the wind, I'm determined to dispell the myths and legends about things YOU ARE CLUELESS OF.

I'm not doing this just for me, I'm doing it for my friends whose lives have been ruined by an unjust law and a system which has violated their right to freedom and marked them for life as evil villins. They are just ordinary people with lives not much different than yours.

If I get nabbed I will learn about the system from the inside and learn how to beat it at it's own game. Thats how I learn. I'm a hard head and I'm not going to submit to anyone pretending to be my parent or guardian.. I'm an adult and I live in a country where adults are free of another mans will. Heh.. yeah.. but it is my dream.

You see I'm a free man Frank.
You just dont like that and you dont like that I'm very very smart and use the limited resources I have available to great effect.. And I do whatever I want.

[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 05-25-2007).]