Pokey's Island in Sunday (Page 6/15)
pokeyfiero MAY 20, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by 84fiero123:

I’m wondering what you are doing with an idiot realtor like Todd who hasn’t sold it for more than what you are asking for it. And allowing it to be advertised like this.

Just wondering what all those buildings are around the island? Are they by chance a fish canning company?

Why if you have been offered more than the asking piece haven’t you sold it yet? Sounds a little Fishy to me.

Nothing against the owner, I just think he has a real bad realtor.

If I was offered over my asking price for my place I would sell in a heartbeat. But then I don’t have a Realtor like you. Got to increase your profit, right Todd!




Yer dum
NEPTUNE MAY 20, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:


I don't like you at all, and I think you're doing a great job. I hope it goes for a million.


I gotta agree. I'll give credit where credit is due.

I have no doubt that the property is a great buy for someone, and will sell for well above the asking price. Todd has apparently done a fine job of marketing this unique property.

Some of you may not realize that Pokey kept shoring up that old shack because once it falls down you will never be permitted to build on that land. It will be pretty much useless. As it is, you could rebuild the house as it once was. You MAY be permitted to build a nicer, taller house on the same footprint.You MAY be allowed to build a small dock.
Want to open a marina? nudist resort? Seafood restaurant?
Forget it.
You'll probably never be able to get the necessary permits. You WILL have to pay huge dollars to have that old boat removed. Sooner or later, you will be forced to.
No way could you build a bridge and subdivide it for homes.
I may have missed a detail, and I'm sure Toddster will point out any error, but whoever finally buys this island better have a ton of money over and above the purchase price.


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fierobear MAY 20, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:
Want to open a marina? nudist resort? Seafood restaurant?



Not true. There are certain recreational uses that would be permitted. The entire area has a "delta recreation zone" or something. I know, because I tried to buy property about a mile down the slough from Pokey.


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You'll never be able to get the necessary permits. You WILL have to pay huge dollars to have that old boat removed. Sooner or later, you will be forced to.



I'm interested in your explanation of why...

1. you HAVE to

2. you'd WANT to

?

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pokeyfiero MAY 21, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:

I gotta agree. I'll give credit where credit is due.

I have no doubt that the property is a great buy for someone, and will sell for well above the asking price. Todd has apparently done a fine job of marketing this unique property.

Some of you may not realize that Pokey kept shoring up that old shack because once it falls down you will never be permitted to build on that land. It will be pretty much useless. As it is, you could rebuild the house as it once was. You MAY be permitted to build a nicer, taller house on the same footprint.You MAY be allowed to build a small dock.
Want to open a marina? nudist resort? Seafood restaurant?
Forget it.
You'll never be able to get the necessary permits. You WILL have to pay huge dollars to have that old boat removed. Sooner or later, you will be forced to.
No way could you build a bridge and subdivide it for homes.
I may have missed a detail, and I'm sure Toddster will take great pleasure in pointing out any error, but whoever finally buys this island better have a ton of money.




The ship is made cedar and is in extremely good condition. It is floating and does not leak at all. The outer layer is about an inch or so thick and is considered sacrificial. Inner layers are criss crossed thick lumber all pinned together with brass screws to about 7 inches thick. Then there is an inner layer. There are about five solid bulkheads all to the height of the second deck except the first rear one. Anything dangerous has been removed also. Many people have offered to buy the ship itself. I was once offered 200,000 just for the ship and declined.It was all cleaned up at the time and I lived there. Except for the vandals basically ransacking and destroying the living quarters it would take no more to rebuild it than any home that was stripped and vandalized. The ship has a title and cf numbers. It is in no danger nor is it a hazard and is on private property as it floats with in my property so it doesn't need to go anywhere and never should need to unless for beautification needs and only if it is cheaper done in dry dock.

As far as using the property for any business purpose it can be used for many things. Agriculture being primary and recreational being secondary. Recreational uses are even promoted and the state has program loans for uses such as gas docks , boat jet ski paddle boat rental,safe swim area,emergency repair assist,store, Picnic, Restroom shower facility's and day night docking. If it were connected to land they would pay for a launch ramp and restrooms if you agree to launch for a set fee.
As far as building docks or marinas it is allowed. Because it is an island makes it cool but it doesn't make it an endangered species for crying out loud.

The house on the property is shored up on purpose so I won't have a residency issue this is true. The home has been there since the 40's and letting the grandfather die would be stupid. Building on the island is not some taboo. It has zoning and guidelines like any other place. So I wonder why you talk with such certainty while you actually have no realistic knowledge of this particular property. I could raise the land and put a modular home on it or build one from scratch. I could drop poles into the hardpan and build a home on stilts or crane a made one onto a stilted platform either way it wouldn't even be very high as my island is actually higher than the main land.

The great thing about my island is the services it has. Sewer,water and electricity from mainland are what makes this place unique. Then the close proximity to land and the marina,store,berthing,designated parking,private dock bathrooms with showers,berth electricity w/water and roof. Also being 10 minutes land wise from Bentwood shopping,restraunts the two best schools in the county and dead center water wise from most of the water attractions. There are 6 restaurant's within a 13 minute radius and most have great night life. Been out the last two nights actually and all of today.

The truth about it is it will need some one with money to fulfill any of the possible uses and while in the past I had plenty of heath and gumption to trade in lieu of money I don't now.

For statements like "it is pretty much useless" all I can say is you must be used to failure. I'm not. All I have ever seen is potential and more every day. I wish I could keep it. Heck every day I try and figure out a way. I would rather have the island and ship than the money but it seems to be one or the other not both. I may yet figure out a way but one thing for sure is I won't lose.

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NEPTUNE MAY 21, 07:22 AM
I stand corrected.
My statement was based on my knowledge of similar properties in Florida.
I assumed that California regulations would be as restrictive as those of Florida, if not more so.
Its a hell of a property and I know you hate to part with it, Pokey.

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Toddster MAY 21, 03:25 PM
The ship is actually registered and has valid CF numbers (although technically they have to be displayed on the hull of the ship and currently are not. But also, the ship is docked on private property. the property line actually extends beyond the harbor the ship is docked in.

It can stay, and you can do anything you like with it since it needs no building permits!
Toddster MAY 21, 06:39 PM
BTW

I'm not big on acknowledging praise but I am glad to see you can separate personal philosophical differences from professional skills Neptune. I appreciate it.

Jeff, I guess that was a compliment. Thanks.

Anyway, I'm showing the island again tomorrow and I am pretty sure we will have this thing sold by the end of the week.

Also, by way fo example, Pokey had this place listed for sale with another agent before me; a local agent who knew the area very well. Once for $250,000 and once for $200,000. The agent offered a 5% commission to the selling agent and got not one offer after over 7 months. I am offering the island for $399,000 and I am giving only 3% to the selling agent. I have over 100 inquires and multiple offers, the smallest of which is the asking price.

This is not meant to be a "look at me, I'm wonderful" point but it is meant to show the difference between people who just have a Real Estate license (easy to get) and people who sell real estate for a living. Marketing is a difficult science to master and the key to success is not selling the "property" but selling the dream and creating a sense of urgency. It is about showing what this could be for the right buyer with the vision and fortitude to make it happen.

That is why I tell people, whether it is Real Estate or anything else, GET A PRO! They are worth it.
WhiteDevil88 MAY 21, 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:
Jeff, I guess that was a compliment. Thanks.



Well, you'll never get any business from me, so take what you can get.
Toddster MAY 21, 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:


Well, you'll never get any business from me, so take what you can get.



Noted. But just in case the issue was ever in doubt, and not to put too fine a point on it, I would never take you on as a client. Not for personal reasons, I have lots of clients who aren't exactly drinking buddies. But you are one of those people who are impossible to please. Satisfying you would be tantamount to climbing mount everest in winter, naked, with a 250 pound lead ball chained to my ankle. As much as I like a challenge I just don't have that much of a masochistic streak in me. Having said that, everybody has a right to competent representation and a right to pursue the property of their dreams. And since you do at least respect my professional skills, if you ever need a good agent, drop me a line and I'll be happy to refer you to one.

That invitation goes for anyone else here on PFF at any time.
NEPTUNE MAY 21, 10:46 PM
Doesn't that last comment suggest that this thread really belongs in THE MALL?

Pokey, I hope you get a million dollars for your island. I really do. And you may!
See ya.

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