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84fierotrevor
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DEC 04, 10:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84fiero123:
You really are a child, just because you have made it past the age of legally being an adult does not make you one. And that is obvious in this post.
From what I have seen of your behavior at least in this thread in particular.
You are a typical Spoilt little rich kid.
As I said earlier my signature, the first 2 lines say it all.
We have become so technologically dependant that if something doesn't work we are lost.
God forbid you don’t have a navigation system, turn left here, into the Pacific ocean.
God forbid your Traction control brakes, and you have to pump the brakes to come to a smooth stop on wet or snowy roads.
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wow, do you not even read my posts. i said for people that just want to get from point a to point b in there car.
apperently u didn't read i autocross, i also track my bike.
spoiled little rich kid? my dad dumped me and my mom off on the street when I was 2. we where on welfare. my mom worked hard, and became a nurse. and makes a decent amount of money. but no where nice.i opend my own business's and am doing good. yes a spoiled little rich kid, that makes perfect sense.
my behavoir. lets recap. i disagree on abs and tcs systems being able to save lives. i get told i don't own my own cars and i don't make the money i do at my busines's i own. i provide proof. other people tell bmw to suck there nuts. and that its a fact that traction control systems suck.
and i am the one acting childish? making alot of sense.
please show me what your trying to say
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phreakboy4
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DEC 04, 10:39 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84fierotrevor:
so please tell me how often a traction control system and abs have failed? causeing the person to crash? please show me those statistcs.
so what your saying is that instead. lets have all the world throw away abs and traction systems. and then have everyone trained on how to react. and then to keep them sharp have them practice what every month? every year? and then whats more likley? the person will react correctly in the panic situation? or the abs system will fail? hmmmm, yes so smart there bud.
and u own a salvage yard so you now can tell me because u own a business. that I don't make the money i do.
yes that makes alot of sense.
a kiosk in a mall. and a salvage yard. have nothing incomen what so ever so good luck with that.
please tell me why every mall has rows and rows of kiosks? all accross america. tons of diffrent things. sunglasses, dead sea spa. ect. ect. anyone with any brains would go lookup kiosk business's and there profits. before they spout of that kiosks don't make as much as. xxx amount of money. YAHOO.COM look it the **** up. 15-30 thousand a month is very little for a kiosk busniess to make!!! LOOK IT UP everyone is in here chimming in that kiosks can't make that much money. yet they know nothing about them. and didn't even take the time to look it up. hell i even just threw out everything i paid for to run my busniess. and if u want in 20 days. when i get back to california where i store all my business records. i will photocopy and post. my sales reports. my credit card batches. my closing reports. my insurance bill. my mall lease. what else would you like? wait forget proof. just keep calling bullshit with out any proof of your own. |
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Well first if and when you learn to read, you will see that I did not say I own a salvage run I said I run a salvage yard, I own a computer business. Second, Just because you read something on the internet does not make it true. I can go find 100 sites that all say I can make money from home working 10 hours a week and bringing home $5000 dollars. Does that make it true?, I think not. So your little "you need to read about kiosks" is a bunch of kaka. If you werent so upset about people not believing you than you would probably be more believable. The fact that one person questioned you made you all upset and pissy like a little baby when caught in a lie, and then the lie just gets bigger and bigger. You act like just because people like a 20 year old car they know nothing about any other cars, and of course they dont own anything else. I myself dont even own a fiero anymore, I will one day buy another if I see what that really catchs my eye however right now I have 16 cars so I really just do not need another car. but I can gauran"dam"tee that I have way more knowledge about cars and driving in general then your little schmuk ass. Your just a close minded little kid, "what I have is the best and nobody's car is better" "Bmw is godly" hahaha christ its like was already said you bought an extended waranty because you knew that the car would break more than you could handle. Because I also know that waranty jobs dont get done any faster than cash jobs, since with waranty jobs the dealership has to wait to be reimbursed. Christ if BMWs were so good they would certainly have a much better resale value. I can think of a lot of cars they have held their value better including 91-95 Mr2's, SUPRAS, 300z, 3000gt vr4.
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84fierotrevor
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DEC 04, 10:45 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by phreakboy4:
Well first if and when you learn to read, you will see that I did not say I own a salvage run I said I run a salvage yard, I own a computer business. Second, Just because you read something on the internet does not make it true. I can go find 100 sites that all say I can make money from home working 10 hours a week and bringing home $5000 dollars. Does that make it true?, I think not. So your little "you need to read about kiosks" is a bunch of kaka. If you werent so upset about people not believing you than you would probably be more believable. The fact that one person questioned you made you all upset and pissy like a little baby when caught in a lie, and then the lie just gets bigger and bigger. You act like just because people like a 20 year old car they know nothing about any other cars, and of course they dont own anything else. I myself dont even own a fiero anymore, I will one day buy another if I see what that really catchs my eye however right now I have 16 cars so I really just do not need another car. but I can gauran"dam"tee that I have way more knowledge about cars and driving in general then your little schmuk ass. Your just a close minded little kid, "what I have is the best and nobody's car is better" "Bmw is godly" hahaha christ its like was already said you bought an extended waranty because you knew that the car would break more than you could handle. Because I also know that waranty jobs dont get done any faster than cash jobs, since with waranty jobs the dealership has to wait to be reimbursed. Christ if BMWs were so good they would certainly have a much better resale value. I can think of a lot of cars they have held their value better including 91-95 Mr2's, SUPRAS, 300z, 3000gt vr4. |
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yes thats why the bmw 330ci holds the highest resale value currently on the market.
where did i claim i new more abouts cars then anyone. i said i liked my bmw. stop putting words in my mouth i never said.
i havnt had to use my wqarentee service yet. but thanks for telling me why i bought it.
where did i say bmw was the best?? stop making stuff up i didn't say and argue with somthing i did say.
yes busted in a lie so i provided proof. yes thats what happends when ur busted in a lie you post proof. proof that a lie wouldn't have.
close minded? i am the one telling people not to talk **** on technology. and i was the one defending techonolgy such as the new lexus. I am the close minded one.
can someone make a post rebuttling somthing I ACCTUALY SAID PLEASE everyone keeps trying to put words in my mouth i didn't say. or just say somthing completly opposite of what i did say.
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84fierotrevor
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DEC 04, 10:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by phreakboy4:
. Christ if BMWs were so good they would certainly have a much better resale value. I can think of a lot of cars they have held their value better including 91-95 Mr2's, SUPRAS, 300z, 3000gt vr4. |
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here is more of that "proof" stuff for you guys i keep providing. yet no one else has felt obligated to provide for all there posts. such as how tcs sucks and is a FACT.
http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022645
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11962665
http://www.autospies.com/news/And-the-cars-that-have-the-highest-resale-value-are-2375/
http://www.mwerks.com/artman/publish/bmw_news/article_656.shtml
http://money.cnn.com/2003/11/10/pf/autos/retained_value/index.htm
MINI RECEIVES THREE ACCOLADES IN KELLEY BLUE BOOK'S "2007 BEST RESALE VALUE AWARDS"
"Best Resale Value in Hatchback Category" "Best Resale Value in Convertible Category" and Top 10 Scorer Overall
Los Angeles, CA - November 29th, 2006... MINI took home three honors in Kelley Blue Book's "2007 Best Resale Value Awards". MINI was awarded two top spots with "Best Resale Value" in the Hatchback category and "Best Resale Value" in the Convertible category. In addition, the MINI Cooper has achieved a spot in the list of models ranked with the Top 10 Best Resale Value.
“As a testament to the MINI Cooper’s unwavering appeal, both the hatchback and convertible versions top their respective categories in this year’s resale value awards,” said Jack R. Nerad, executive editorial director and executive market analyst for Kelley Blue Book’s kbb.com. “With an additional placement in the overall top 10, the expressive and fun MINI remains a resale champion.”
“We are overjoyed to receive this recognition from Kelley Blue Book for the MINI,” noted Jim McDowell, Vice President, MINI USA. “We are committed to offering our owners outstanding value in areas of performance, safety and fun. The overwhelming enthusiasm MINI owners have for their car is a testament of our commitment and we see strong resale value as an important indicator of our efforts.”
Kelley Blue Book’s resale values are projections based on current vehicle data, market conditions for each vehicle, competition in segment, expectations of the future economy and the combined experience of Kelley Blue Book’s team of market and pricing analysts. Values reflect projected future wholesale pricing for clean, reconditioned vehicles at the end of a five-year lease period.
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and on top of all that. i was never arguing that bmw was the greatest car. or anything like that.
but there ya go. like i keep saying. some of you should rsearch what u say before u type bullshit you know nothing about.
you run a salvage yard and yet u claim the pile of **** mitsubishi 3000gt is much better and holds better value then a bmw????
i do agree with you however, that the supra has held its value very very very well. with 1994's selling for even 25 thousand still.[This message has been edited by 84fierotrevor (edited 12-04-2006).]
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Tinton
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DEC 04, 11:03 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84fierotrevor:
...when your driving a 80's econo shitbox.... |
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Careful, this forum is full of people who are "driving 80's econo shitboxes", as you so eloquently said.
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Tinton
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DEC 04, 11:08 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by phreakboy4:
This is really a funny thread to read, I totally agree with jstricker on what he is analyzing about Trevors BS. I dont believe one single thing about what he supposedly makes, as I own a business too and know what it cost for everything. I also agree that traction and stability control are nothing but a crutch, yes they can help for the everyday driver however what happens when it fails and the everyday driver is so used to it being there that they cant react without it. They are so used to slamming the brake and it not locking up and then all of the sudden they slam the break, enter into a non-controlled skid and cause a 4 car pile-up all because they were used to that crutch and then it was gone. I am one that loves cars and loves technology, but there is a point where they just shouldn't be merged any more. All of todays cars are just throw aways, after 5-10 years they will be so expensive to fix and junkyards will be riddled with cars that are all having the same problems that no one will be able to afford to fix them. Just think about the new vans with the power sliding doors, now what happens when the motor faults and the door won't close?, or the rear hatch won't come down because the motor wont allow?. Thats where all the problems come into play. I own my own business I also run a salvage yard, Impound yard, and Run tow trucks. I also work on vehicles, so I see all the sides of the spectrum. I see the stuff when its nice, I see it when it breaks, and I see it when it land in the salvage yard. Nine out of ten times the cars that land in the salvage yard are due to technology failure, where some BS sensor breaks and that sensor cost $900.00 and even still just might not be the problem because 3 other sensors could be screwed up, sending false signals causing the other one to seem bad. It doesnt matter how old the technology is I have seen cars that are two months old cause as much trouble as cars that are 10 years old, I have also seen many cars that are 20 years old be able to be fixed in minutes rather cheaply due to the non complexity of them. As I said techology is great, but it is a big crutch for people that need it, for what ever reason, they could be idiots, lazy, no common sense, whatever its still a crutch and still will cause more issues when it breaks then it ever helped. |
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+1, exactly what I was trying to say. If only Trevor would read it.
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Tinton
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DEC 04, 11:21 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84fierotrevor:
im done arguing about the thread. you guys don't wanna belive me go for it. i provided proof. and if u want even more its not hard to find on the web.
if u don't wanna belive me go for it. yet calikid provides no proof and he is redily belived in his outrages bullshit storys.
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You hate CaliKid so much, yet you're no better than him. You proved you own a couple of sunglass huts. Really, is that such a respectful profession? You glean money from teenage girls who like to spend Daddy's money. You have no proof for the kind of numbers you're claiming. Is that not like CaliKid? The similarities are endless between you 2. Maybe that's why you reach for the kleenex and lotion every time you think of him.
You showing business licenses proves exactly the same stuff as Calikid showing his engine. So what if you have something that's capable of making that kind of hp/money? You should hang a Lingenfelter banner across one of your huts, that'd show us how much green you're bringing in  . He has no dyno, you have nothing showing you make $180,000 a year. I guess this is the time when I should offer you a car or $1000 so you'll post your tax return? Nah, sorry, I'm not Shaun.
As I've said before, the CaliKid thing is really getting over-played. Can't you find something else to ***** about?
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Tinton
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DEC 04, 11:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84fierotrevor:
but this has all sidetracked from what i said originaly. traction systems save lifes. and will continue to do so wether u like it or not. so tinton continue to tell everyone how traction control sucks balls and is a FACT its usless. yet hundreds of cars now come with them standerd. and almost every car has the option to have one. im sure your 21 year old self, with no enngineering background, having never even driven a car with traction control. or atleast a bmw with one. is much smarter then those thousands of rsearchers. all those statistcs and everything else saying the opposite of you.
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You're what? 23? Where is YOUR engineering background? Oh right....you sell sunglasses for a living, STFU. You don't have any more of an engineering background than me, and you haven't done more research than me. If you want to claim my points are invalid, well, so are yours. You're a hypocritical ******* with your double standards.
Tell me, where's your "research" that shows that traction control has made a difference? Show me that a an analysis was taken of cars with and without traction control, and show me that the cars with traction control were statistically abnormal, ie, that it was outside the normal variation in the first sample with cars that didn't have traction control. You're completely full of  .
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84fierotrevor
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DEC 04, 11:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Tinton:
You're what? 23? Where is YOUR engineering background? Oh right....you sell sunglasses for a living, STFU. You don't have any more of an engineering background than me, and you haven't done more research than me. If you want to claim my points are invalid, well, so are yours. You're a hypocritical ******* with your double standards.
Tell me, where's your "research" that shows that traction control has made a difference? Show me that a an analysis was taken of cars with and without traction control, and show me that the cars with traction control were statistically abnormal, ie, that it was outside the normal variation in the first sample with cars that didn't have traction control. You're completely full of . |
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putting words in my mouth again. where did i say my rsearch?? . the car compmanys that devloped and implemented abs and tcs systems. how could u even confuse that with me.
no proof like calkid?? did u miss my thread where i said in 20 days when i get back to cali i will post my sales records?? u cant get any better proof then that.
your making fun of my prossesion of owning 2 kiosks. yet you do what for a living??? LOl, u still havn't mentioned it.[This message has been edited by 84fierotrevor (edited 12-04-2006).]
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84fierotrevor
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DEC 04, 11:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Tinton:
Careful, this forum is full of people who are "driving 80's econo shitboxes", as you so eloquently said. |
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including me. i have a fiero as well. but I don't lie to myself about it. it is a 80's econo parts bin car is it not?
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