Have you got an L98 TPI you want more power out of ??? (Page 6/12)
GT86 DEC 12, 01:14 PM
I'm not trying to stir up more crap, but I do have a question. Why is it anytime anyone questions California Kid about his car, the thread turns ugly?

Cali, I'm not bagging on you or your car. You've got an extremely nice Fiero. But you've made some pretty impressive claims about what the car is producing, without any proof. When other people have done this, they've been called out for it. I don't see why you take offense if people doubt you.

Tinton DEC 12, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by GT86:

I'm not trying to stir up more crap, but I do have a question. Why is it anytime anyone questions California Kid about his car, the thread turns ugly?

Cali, I'm not bagging on you or your car. You've got an extremely nice Fiero. But you've made some pretty impressive claims about what the car is producing, without any proof. When other people have done this, they've been called out for it. I don't see why you take offense if people doubt you.


Why does the thread turn ugly when people ask him to prove his claims? Because apparently, we're supposed to believe him based on blind faith, if we don't and we ask simple, NON-OFFENSIVE questions he quickly turns defensive along with a bunch of other people like Formula88 who say we're assholes. He has a nice car, that is an opinion held by about 99% of the people on this forum, including me. But he claims things as fact that aren't backed up, like his HP. I have no doubt that he has a 1.17g on a skidpad, he actually proved that at the GM Proving Grounds. But Cali Kid is real hypocritical when DOHCSWAPPER comes in asking if he'll produce the same results with the same setup, and Cali tells him that he needs proper tuning. How come that doesn't apply to Cali's engine? He throws a bunch of parts at his car and claims its making xxx HP based on results other people got, yet he does not tune his car and he doesn't dyno it to prove it. How come DOHCSWAPPER has to skidpad his car to claim 1.17g+ but Cali doesn't have to test his engine to prove 400+ hp? Something is seriously wrong here.


And how come I'll get a bunch of negatives for politely criticizing Cali Kid's car? And how come I'll be called an ******* for it? I'm the bad guy for trying to make him back up his claims?

Joe Carburetor DEC 12, 05:22 PM
Mmmmm..... Maybe a little late to ask this question since this thread is now in the trash can....

I was wondering if anyone has a little more info about this setup....

..... a reversed TPI intake for the fiero

crzyone DEC 12, 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by Tinton:


Why does the thread turn ugly when people ask him to prove his claims? Because apparently, we're supposed to believe him based on blind faith, if we don't and we ask simple, NON-OFFENSIVE questions he quickly turns defensive along with a bunch of other people like Formula88 who say we're assholes. He has a nice car, that is an opinion held by about 99% of the people on this forum, including me. But he claims things as fact that aren't backed up, like his HP. I have no doubt that he has a 1.17g on a skidpad, he actually proved that at the GM Proving Grounds. But Cali Kid is real hypocritical when DOHCSWAPPER comes in asking if he'll produce the same results with the same setup, and Cali tells him that he needs proper tuning. How come that doesn't apply to Cali's engine? He throws a bunch of parts at his car and claims its making xxx HP based on results other people got, yet he does not tune his car and he doesn't dyno it to prove it. How come DOHCSWAPPER has to skidpad his car to claim 1.17g+ but Cali doesn't have to test his engine to prove 400+ hp? Something is seriously wrong here.


And how come I'll get a bunch of negatives for politely criticizing Cali Kid's car? And how come I'll be called an ******* for it? I'm the bad guy for trying to make him back up his claims?


You just got a + for a very well formed argument. I agree with everything you said. I don't know why certain members get special treatment and a silver spoon.

Cali didn't build his engine, or his suspension but he sure loves showing them off. If Cali bought his engine assuming it was 400hp, well he got ripped off. Its closer to 300hp as per the link I provided.

DOHC_SWAPPER DEC 12, 05:55 PM
Look... I didnt mean to cause any trouble here. I just wanted as much info as I could get regarding his suspension cause it hit 1.17 on the pad. Thats all.
ryan.hess DEC 13, 12:16 AM
Just like I said in the last thread that turned ugly....

He already dynoed it. It makes 250WHP. That's why he doesn't want to dyno it at a gathering. That's why he didn't want to take up the PFF member on the FREE (!!!!) dyno. He knows he'll get shi#. I don't blame him...

I'm tired of these threads, I really am. And they'll keep coming, because of one man's ego. But that's okay, I understand.

lurker DEC 13, 12:31 AM
oh, goody, i was getting really tired of sig tests.

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Tinton DEC 13, 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by ryan.hess:

Just like I said in the last thread that turned ugly....

He already dynoed it. It makes 250WHP. That's why he doesn't want to dyno it at a gathering. That's why he didn't want to take up the PFF member on the FREE (!!!!) dyno. He knows he'll get shi#. I don't blame him...

I'm tired of these threads, I really am. And they'll keep coming, because of one man's ego. But that's okay, I understand.


250WHP? That's impressive. Why would he get crap for that? Its an EXCELLENT example of a Fiero that can go fast in a straight line and in the curves. If I dynoed 250 WHP in a Fiero I'd be proud of it and make sure to talk about it everywhere. That's about 300 crank hp, I bet it'd keep up with or pass my Camaro in a straight line and make it look stupid in some twisties.

Instead of being embarassed and ashamed of his less-than-expected dyno run he should continue to work on the engine to make it have as much HP as he wants.

ryan.hess DEC 13, 10:46 AM
Just to clarify, my above post is completely speculation. Nobody but him would know if he got it dyno'd.

But think about it and tell me it doesn't make sense.... his avoidance of free dynos... the constant "I know how much it makes, that's good enough for me..."

AaronZ34 DEC 13, 11:51 AM
Does anyone else doubt his 1.17g claim?

I realize he is just going to say "GM Proving Grounds LOL," but I want him to tell me the circumstances of how his "G" test is performed. Was the test done on a slalom course, around a turn, down a strait, what? For the record the Porsche 996 I drive every summer is a race car by all accounts, and runs an exact 1.17g (ironic) according to most every major test on it. Now I'm not saying a Fiero can't beat it, but I have my doubts. Although the 996 is heavier, the weight balance is superb, the 295 tires grip amazingly, and the suspension is rock hard. Knowing what 1.17g feels like, and how the car feels at these limits, I doubt very many Fieros can come close. I really enjoy the Fiero and how it handles, but it simply isn't comparing to a $180,000 race car in my opinion without total a suspension redesign and reengineering concept.

And it really sucks because every time somebody questions him, even someone with the technical background to make themselves credible, he resorts to personal attacks and gets really defensive. Then every one of his followers arrogant enough to believe is idiotic claims start passing out the negatives. It really is a direct comparison to the architecture, beliefs, and brainwashing of the German Nazi Regime. And then he has to get Archie to come in and back him up. I find it odd that most every TPI swap Archie has done, 400+ hp is claimed. Look at the purple car with the ugly wing, same thing. 450hp with a stock TPI intake.

All we want to know is how you make 400hp with parts not capable of 400hp. And I personally want to know how you make 1.17g in a car that I feel is not capable of such. There is no need for the personal attacks.