An open letter (Page 6/25)
fogglethorpe OCT 17, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by dezie36:
hmm, you can almost smell the whiskey coming off the screen from some of these posts.

Another ad hominem generalization....that seems to be your standard mode of argument.


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If you were offended by my post I do not apologize.

It wasn't offensive. It was embarrassing. You are barely able to string together a coherent thought.


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In my set of morals by which I live my life;

So now, because you're mad at the world, you have "morals"?


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having a child out of wed lock is one of the worst atrocities you can do to a child... I’ve seen how these children grow up (IE my sister, brother, and my brothers daughter). And they do not grow up to be normal... in my experience anyway, I’m sure there are a few lucky ones out there, and I’m sure your all going to know some... or be one.

My twins were born out of wedlock...I adopted them when they were barely four years old. They are now nineteen. My daughter is in college on a full scholarship, with a 3.9 GPA. My son, her twin brother, is on his own, by choice. He's planning to get married next year, and is also in college. He works part time, and makes enough money that way to support himself.

If either one is ever in Michigan, maybe you'll have the honor of bagging their groceries.

I'd say they turned out ok. You don't know a damned thing about how the real world works.


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If you drink and drive I hold tight to my statement that you are scum.

Almost everyone agrees with that.

Let me add something...If you hurl large fountain sodas at strangers in traffic, you are a moron and deserve any repercussions that result.
fogglethorpe OCT 17, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by JohnnyK:


Looks quite coherent to me.. I think you're suffering from "Can't take a step back outside yourself" syndrome.


Are you still suffering from "Can't stop getting punched in bars" syndrome? Just wondering.

Uaana OCT 17, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by fogglethorpe:


Are you still suffering from "Can't stop getting punched in bars" syndrome? Just wondering.


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Think that was JohnnyK..

But as for Dezies rant..

Used to feel the same way myself.. grew up in a dem stronghold/union town. Where if you didn't play by the "rules" you didn't work
Well couple yrs later moved to a real metro area, doubled my income and am quite happy Bitter, still annoyed with rednecks? Naw not really. Making myself a better person and improving my life was satisfaction enough.
F-I-E-R-O OCT 17, 10:49 AM
Ellen, welcome to OT! I'd say more, but I have to go beat my dog now, it's been over 10 hours and she's probably wondering what's wrong...
Uaana OCT 17, 10:55 AM
Dez.

Do yourself a favor.. Leave! MI is a dying state for a whole host of reasons.

Get yourself a job that pays decent wages, find a nice girl or two.. and look back and laugh at the red necks and their shallow lives.


For those of you who jumped on the beat on Dez bandwagon.. no offense.. I've hunted, been in the military, worked union jobs etc. I just see Dez as a product of living in a place with no future.
Does he have issues.. ya kinda.. but nothing worse than not seeing a future other than getting his ole lady knocked up so they can split the welfare check.

cliffw OCT 17, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by dezie36:
hmm, you can almost smell the whiskey coming off the screen from some of these posts.

Dezie36.......if all your opinions in the "open letter" are as intelligently thought out as the above quote, you "letter" is more so incredulous. Getting slammed in the thread and you attack ? Are the people at work and school picking on you ?

Taijiguy OCT 17, 12:18 PM
Whether his rant was articulate, properly punctuated, grammatically correct, and/or contained spelling errors, I'm having a hard time reconciling the flames being directed his way. So what if there are generalizations and slanders. I have to agree with him on the point that some of you seem to be taking it very personally. If you have gotten your hackles up over this post, I can't help but think you saw some of yourself in the things he said. Why else get so exercised over it? He and I don't see eye-to-eye on a lot of things, but this gang mentality I'm seeing over his rant seems pretty uncalled for. Hell, half the stuff he said could easily apply to me, I just choose not to be offended by it, why are you choosing TO be offended by it? Some of you might ought to take a step back and evaluate why you're so cheesed over his comments. Pretty much everyone on here has had their fair share of rants and bicchin', and many have been more over-the-top than his was. Cripes, cut the guy some slack. Most of you have posted your OWN irrational, skewed, not to mention ANGRY rants, that were easily as out of control as his was. No doubt, some of his comments were probably uncalled for, or just plain unreasonable. (such as being "better" than anyone else) But hey, we ALL say dumb things when we're cheesed.
By the way, I 100% share his attitude about drink drivers. The rest, well, that's up for debate, as, for one, I have a duaghter out of wedlock, but she turned out just fine. So I guess his "opinion" (which is all any of his comments really were) just isn't completely accurate, and certainly don't apply to me. Do they apply to you? If not, then get off your high-horse, you ain't so special. Your harsh criticisms of him make you not only as judgemental as him, they also make you a hypocrite, since your doing the same thing to him that you're critisizing him for! And if they Do touch home, well, turn on Jerry Springer, you'll feel much more normal afterwards. Unless it's your sister who's on there.....
Toddster OCT 17, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Fieros_Forever:


Interesting post. Perhaps these will help:



I'm guessing Dan White, who killed Harvey Milk and got off using the Twinkie Defense have something to do with this?!?!

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Formula88 OCT 17, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by Uaana:

Making myself a better person and improving my life was satisfaction enough.


How very Republican of you.

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"All anybody wants is a normal life and a cool car. Most people settle for the car." -Christopher Titus

dezie36 OCT 17, 04:31 PM
My sisters and brothers mom had them out of wedlock... our father felt horrible for the way they turned out and raised me differently.

My sister was a 30 year old virgin, who married the first man to show her any attention shes now divorced as well... and doesn’t have a job... living with her mom, my brother had his first kid out of wed lock at the age of 16 now 18 years later he still works as a short order cook and my niece is pregnant with her first out of wedlock baby, she’s also been in juvie.

These are my opinions one the people I’ve been exposed to.

And calling me a bigot doesn’t really apply because I’m hating the people who hate blacks, Mexicans, Jews, and gays... where as I hate none of the above.

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