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PontiacMan OCT 25, 01:24 AM
Too bad I dont have a chevy engine

I wasnt singleing anyone out, just saying I see lots of talk of how everyone's car is faster than everyone elses with nothing backing it up.

[This message has been edited by PontiacMan (edited 10-25-2004).]

TaurusThug OCT 25, 01:25 AM
so... how bout them videos huh???

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'86 Fiero GT

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trigger OCT 25, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by TaurusThug:

so... how bout them videos huh???


i guess nobody has been beating up on any "ricers" lately.

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88 fiero coupe. 2.8/5 spd (last driven sept 02)
90 eclipse. 4g63t, the replacement for displacement

PontiacMan OCT 25, 02:55 AM
I personally would NEVER, and have never video taped a race. Think about it, you get pulled over, INSTANT evidence against you.

Maybe Im just paranoid. Besides, most videos you see of races online are about as exciting as watching paint dry. Go to a track if you want to see exciting races.

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1987 Fiero - 2.5L, auto tranny, stock
1970 Firebird - built 455+.030, lots 'o mods

Rickady88GT OCT 25, 03:41 AM
Mine is a "stock GM" engine
But I dont think it is a good idea to race on the street, so I will take it to a strip to see what it will do. That way I can post real time slips and vidio. I hope to race a "ricer" some day but they are just about gone from this area. Just a fad?

I have been driving around town for a wile but no one has even tried to race me.

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Rickady88GT QuadCam 3.5 V6

Fieroeddie OCT 25, 03:58 AM
Hi,

2,000.00 for an 11 second DSM? Which engine are you talking about using, the cast pistons in the six bolt, or the weak rods and walking crank in the seven bolt? Or how about the five speed transmission? Lot's of people think that you can just slap on a big turbo and some injectors and you'll hit tens. Question, how many of you actually built these setups that you are talking about? I can ask this because I have. In fact two of them, one six bolt setup and one seven bolt setup. Both in 2nd gen cars, a 95 TSi fwd and a 97 GSX.
These cars are so unreliable once they break into the high twelves, if you're lucky you don't break something first like the tranny.
I think that they are pretty good performers for slightly modifying but once you get past a turbo like the 16g, you run into some serious reliability issues. I have used a T25, 16g, 14b, T3/t4 .60 trim, and a 13b. And I think that the best reliability and performance is with the 16g as far as just bolt-on with fuel and tuning. Although many people have blown their engine with just the 14b in the first gen thanks to the cast pistons.
And speaking of 2,000.00 dollars, how about grassroots motorsports this year. Read about that ten second Nova and the mid eleven second sbc 280z all bought under two grand including car. Ed

Sean4852 OCT 25, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by Fieroeddie:

Hi,

2,000.00 for an 11 second DSM? Which engine are you talking about using, the cast pistons in the six bolt, or the weak rods and walking crank in the seven bolt? Or how about the five speed transmission? Lot's of people think that you can just slap on a big turbo and some injectors and you'll hit tens. Question, how many of you actually built these setups that you are talking about? I can ask this because I have. In fact two of them, one six bolt setup and one seven bolt setup. Both in 2nd gen cars, a 95 TSi fwd and a 97 GSX.
These cars are so unreliable once they break into the high twelves, if you're lucky you don't break something first like the tranny.
I think that they are pretty good performers for slightly modifying but once you get past a turbo like the 16g, you run into some serious reliability issues. I have used a T25, 16g, 14b, T3/t4 .60 trim, and a 13b. And I think that the best reliability and performance is with the 16g as far as just bolt-on with fuel and tuning. Although many people have blown their engine with just the 14b in the first gen thanks to the cast pistons.
And speaking of 2,000.00 dollars, how about grassroots motorsports this year. Read about that ten second Nova and the mid eleven second sbc 280z all bought under two grand including car. Ed


The pistons have nothing to do with it, its a tuning issues if thier melting pistons with a 14b. The stock injectors are tiny and people try to push them too far because thier cheap and dont want to do stuff the right way and buy bigger injectors. Obviously you cant just put on a big turbo, injectors and an ic and expect it to be fast, you have to know wtf your doing or the car will break. If you aren't out launching off every stop light with 4 racing slicks and slamming the gears around so hard your breaking shift forks the tranny's are fine. You have to know how to drive and holding it on the rev limiter and side stepping the clutch isn't knowing how to drive, its having a death wish. I'm sick of people bitching about the reliabity of these cars, they are old, parts wear out and break when you add more power and especially if you try to do stuff with modding before basic maitance stuff.

Anybody can bolt a turbo on, but can you make it work with your setup, do you have the right supporting mods, correct fuel tuning, engine in good shape, mileage, how was it taken care of before you got it. I never had one problem with either of my dsm's aside from me getting the wrong axle shaft from the parts store when the cv joints went out and it popping out on me while i was driving down the road on my laser. The talon had bad valve seals and a bad clutch, the car had 188k miles on it when i got it and it had a t-belt accident before i bought it because nobody wants to pay to keep up on the maitance so the belt broke and they replaced it with a used head that had bad valve seals. The clutch that was in it was some cheap taiwanese pos that had been replaced previously and was obiviously the cheapest clutch they could find to put in it at the time and did not hold up to awd launches at all. My laser was on its factory original clutch for 175k miles before it finally started to have some chatter.

http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com/shoptalon.shtml

High 11's on stock turbo, stock cams, stock intercooler, no nitrous

Mid 11's on stock turbo, stock cams, pos front mount, nitrous and stock shortblock

Mid 11's on stock short block... so much for the weak rods and pistons...

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There is no replacement for: AWD, high rpm's and very very big turbo's

DelawareFiero OCT 25, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by trigger:


i gave him proof that he was wrong. that is all.

delaware fiero. how is me buying a used eclipse any diferent than you buying a used fiero? you wanna go dollar for dollar on 11s or 10s? you won't win this argument.


Like I said before this is a FIERO FORUM. So take that import crap outside.

11s or 10s sure. But how streetable is yours gonna be? The tubbed drag RICE runs what 9s? 8s? So if you can have daily driver RICE mobile turning 11s and 10s then more power to ya.

I agree there are fast imorts out there. But those are tuners to me. ya know guys that actually know what is fast.
Im referring and the original post was most likely talking about the FARTCANS, HUGE WINGS, 10 Gauges, 100 stickers, etc.
Those people need help.


But it still doesnt make since to me people on here beating that RICE drum. And say that they are a Fiero Fan????
Maybe its just me.

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Dont let your babies grow up to be RICERS.
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Kohburn OCT 25, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by LoW_KeY:

believe this is Will's car on the forum... N* motor

http://formula.cryptnix.com/FIEROvs300ZX1.wmv

right click save as


man that just sounds sick -

Cooter OCT 25, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by Kohburn:


man that just sounds sick -


I just watched that video and all I can say is
The car with the camera got a real nice look at some Pontiac tail lights! Very cool.