Colored folks, this is a joke people, not being racist (Page 6/17)
frontal lobe NOV 19, 05:16 PM
I love how you spell color with a "u".
a.k.a NOV 19, 05:18 PM
jeebus ppl, remove the 10 foot poles up each of ur a$$es and lighten up!

I am a white male, and personally didn't find it funny.............BUT others did...meh whatever ppl, soon enuf we will be looking at this thread in the 'can

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SLAMMED87GT NOV 19, 05:18 PM
 
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Originally posted by avengador1:

I don't know if I should comment about this "joke". I did post it in it's entirety as I received it. If I have offended anybody, I wish to personally apologize for hurting your feelings, it was not my intention.

I don't think you really should remove it OR apologize to anyone that is apparently offended by it.

A. It IS a joke, and it's meant to take a lighter look at things

B. You (to basically cover your ass on an ever-so-critical forum) said in the topic it was a joke and not meant to offend anyone.

C. LIGHTEN UP YOU FREAKIN BABIES!!! I understand that people can get easily offended these days, but the bottom line is we live in a very culturally diverse society and everyone can find something that "offends" them. If everyone one complained each time that happened, there would be a lot of WHINING and unhappy people wouldn't there be? That seems to be the attitude of this F'ing forum in the last couple months. Geesh, grow up, take a pill, relax, have a drink, there's no need to get upset over every little issue we face.

edit: grammer

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yashmack NOV 19, 05:32 PM
This is my opinion, so please treat as such, an opinion, not fact, not set in stone, but a personal feeling of the things I have seen and learned and beleive.

my opinion is that color, race, nationality, your accent and anything else that may be different about you does not determine the type of person you are. To call someone "Colored" is inappropriate, that much is certain. But in this context, it is more of a socia parody. Someone making light of a decades old term used for a racial slur, they are pointing out how silly this slur is, that colored at best in extremely inaccurate. I dont completely agree with the style with which it was written but im certain the author had his reason for using the style he did. This "joke" is pointing out that the old terms and slurs are becoming more of a joke than anything else, people should not get offended at this "joke." If it were a "white" person telling the joke, it would not go over so well, simply because he isnt "black" and would not have the first hand experience. however, if a "black" person tells this "joke" it takes on a new light.

I do not see this as being offensive at all, it is a commentary and someones opinion on an outdated and old slur. Truly, the point of this joke was to show that the old ways are going away. this cannot happen though is people get "offended" at something as obviously silly and lighthearted as this joke. Move on, lose your own bigotry. If you cant move on, how can anyone else?

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yashmack NOV 19, 05:33 PM
 
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Originally posted by SLAMMED87GT:
C. LIGHTEN UP YOU FREAKIN BABIES!!! I understand that people can get easily offended these days, but the bottom line is we live in a very culturally diverse society and everyone can find something that "offends" them. If everyone one complained each time that happened, there would be a lot of WHINING and unhappy people wouldn't there be? That seems to be the attitude of this F'ing forum in the last couple months. Geesh, grow up, take a pill, relax, have a drink, there's no need to get upset over every little issue we face.

edit: grammer

I have to agree. Move on, its the only way to lose the biases and bigotry. the only way to truly know that you have moved on is the day that you can make fun of the mistakes and arrogance of the past.

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SLAP, SLAP, SQUISH! (Penny-Arcade)

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Toddster NOV 19, 05:36 PM
 
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Originally posted by Wudman:


Toddster..

My reference was not an assualt on your MLK comment, no clarification needed. Now as far as a good "redneck" joke, I live to close to Southern Indiana to add one to any future stand-up act. I have a feeling that a even if I told a "redneck" joke, allegedly written by a "redneck" to a "redneck" crowd, I might want to watch my back as I exited the theater, if not when I walked off the stage.

Sadly, you might be right there. But I guess what I am saying is that someone has to be big first.

I've seen first hand the treatment of African Americans when I lived in Atlanta. I can't deny your right to be offended by a lot of bad history. But it will end...eventually. In the meantime, be the bigger person. We can influence people better with our deeds than our words.

Stimpy was right. The joke was tacky. But it was still funny. Join in with us on the laugh.

And I'm looking forward to hearing that Hillybilly someday

Wudman NOV 19, 05:52 PM
 
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Originally posted by Voytek:
Then perhaps it would be more beneficial for you to start fighting derogatory statements within your own kind first.

The bar gets lower.

So much for the "joke", the thread has been much funnier. I can understand those who whine about BET, but don't acknowledge that there 350+ channels that historically don't cater to "my kind". As if ABC, NBC and CBS have stellar records in ethnic programming to this day, not? To this day there is very little quality minority programming on the networks. Opportunities for those lucky enough to be something other than stereotyped idiots is the exception, not the rule. The few that will whine about Black History Month, the NAACP, the Negro College Fund and other ethnically centered organizations have skin far thinner than mine has suggested to be. Is there really any comparision to the resources, holidays, scholarships and organizations available for groups that are considered ethnically a "minority", even if they were grouped together versus those for Americans of European descent?

As far as working on "my kind" when it comes to bigotry, I hold everyone to the same standard. If thinking that a joke that stereotypes one group to pander to another for a laugh is "Anal" or "Moronic", so be it. I would say though, that someone who choose to respond to another's opinion by so labeling them, is probably far more qualified in those areas.

As far as those who embrace marginal ethnic references to their European heritage, I would venture that if I used that term with lets say, stinking, dirty, stupid, etc, you would go ballistic. Heck, already someone from the "real" south got all bent because I used the word "redneck" in a sentance. Oddly enough, when another member used it before me, he didn't seem so bothered as did no one else.

Unfortunately many attitudes won't just fade away. I find a vigorous debate far more healthy than turning away. Some have debated, some have not. In any case, I don't think this will cause me to sell either my black, white, silver, gold or maroon Fieros, unless the price is right...

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Savagery NOV 19, 05:54 PM
I'm white. I have watched stuff like the Kings of Comedy (yeah, right) and get kinda pissed at that sh*t. Why? Not because it offends me, but because I can't say the same about them. A lot of it is ripping on white people, which is okay these days. Hell, there was an episode of the simpsons with a black comedian telling anti-white jokes. That's all good, though, apparently.

Wudman, it's a hypocritical society. America gives blacks a lot of freedom of speech when it comes to racial stuff (BET, Ebony magazine, etc) which us white people don't get. WET will never happen, neither will Ivory magazine- those would be racist.

Point is, you can't spend time dwelling on stupid crap like that joke. I found it quite funny. Who was it poking fun at? Both sides, I guess, but what does that really matter anyway. Lots of jokes are offensive, get over it.

yashmack NOV 19, 06:09 PM
 
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Originally posted by Wudman:The bar gets lower.

So much for the "joke", the thread has been much funnier. I can understand those who whine about BET, but don't acknowledge that there 350+ channels that historically don't cater to "my kind". As if ABC, NBC and CBS have stellar records in ethnic programming to this day, not? To this day there is very little quality minority programming on the networks. Opportunities for those lucky enough to be something other than stereotyped idiots is the exception, not the rule. The few that will whine about Black History Month, the NAACP, the Negro College Fund and other ethnically centered organizations have skin far thinner than mine has suggested to be. Is there really any comparision to the resources, holidays, scholarships and organizations available for groups that are considered ethnically a "minority", even if they were grouped together versus those for Americans of European descent?

As far as working on "my kind" when it comes to bigotry, I hold everyone to the same standard. If thinking that a joke that stereotypes one group to pander to another for a laugh is "Anal" or "Moronic", so be it. I would say though, that someone who choose to respond to another's opinion by so labeling them, is probably far more qualified in those areas.[This message has been edited by Wudman (edited 11-19-2003).]

My intent was not to label you anything. perhaps bigotry was the wrong or too strong a word. perhaps racial bias would have been better?

again, this is only my opinion, but you seem really hung up on your own racial prejudices. I cant beleive that the only thing you got out of my post was the word "bigotry." perhaps I should remove that statement entirely from my post so that you can see the rest of it more clearly.

now that I think about it, that was too strong a word. here is that parageaph again, with the offending word removed, it was the wrong word to use and did not convey my true meaning.

 
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I do not see this as being offensive at all, it is a commentary and someones opinion on an outdated and old slur. Truly, the point of this joke was to show that the old ways are going away. this cannot happen though is people get "offended" at something as obviously silly and lighthearted as this joke. Move on, lose your own racial biases. If you cant move on, how can anyone else?

if you still cant see the meaning of my post then you never will. the only thing we can hope for is to move on from such childish things as labeling someone by color. Truly, that is how I saw this joke, showing that the using "colored" as a slur is imply absurd and a joke, it shows just how silly and stupid that "slur" is.

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frontal lobe NOV 19, 06:13 PM
"...there is very little quality minority programming on the networks."

True. Not surprising, though, since there is very little quality programming of ANY kind on the networks, or elsewhere.

I don't watch tv, so help me get calibrated here. What shows do cater to "your kind"? Was the Cosby show a good show? Is Whoopi's show? Others?

I guess my ancestors came from Norway. I've never seen a school insist on all the students trying lutefisk and lefsa, and learning about Erik the red.

I'm not looking for a vigorous debate, but an informative discussion would have been nice. I've asked quite a few questions and got no answers, not that I feel you are obligated to answer.