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Red88FF

NOV 15, 11:35 AM

Oh, this thought occurred to me this morning and do not believe it was brought up by either side of the, uh hum,,, debate on a pro or negative side.

If you are gay you will be kicked out of the military here in the US. Ole Clinton made a big stink in the first election about this and then turned his back on them once elected (heheh) not meant as a joke but still kinda funny. I believe they are no longer openly hunted to be thrown out but I think it stands as "don't ask, don't tell" right now. With that example of how things of this nature work on a federal level I do not see anyway possible for it to be against any law to discriminate against the gays in business sense as many here have said that it does somehow.

As far as the landscaper issue goes, I think the gay side acted extremely poorly and hope that the death and sodomy threats are pursued and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Was it the KIDS they threatened? or did I get that part wrong? Did they ever make public the emails sent by the gays to get their base so exited about the incident?
Trying to force acceptance will only widen the divide, much as it has done here.

I also do not think it would ever be possible for the gays to ever get any of the so called special rights as a group because ANYBODY could claim to be gay and sue when something did not go their way. In fact I know of some one that did something gay (claims he is not,,heheh) just to be kicked out of the military. They are not the gay race, just plane old gay.

Nick? very very sorry you are leaving the group!

84Bill

NOV 15, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by fierofetish:
Nuzzeling up to John SNIP:
And your appearing to back up the lunatic ravings of 84Bill, whether implicit or not, is unfortunate.

Trying to rally the troops are we? Cant win your supremicist arguments so you accuse the moderator of showing favoritism because he doesn't agree with your OPINION? GROW UP! I'm not backing him and he isn't backing me. Infact.. Cliff doesn't back anyone, you will not find a more impartial moderator anywhere! What you see is a united front and believe me, that is not always the case because we are ALL different people. I have exchanged opposing words with the Moderator directly on a number of occasions and believe me I don't expect favoritism even NOW! In fact I never want Cliff to agree with me in open forum EVER!! I can stand on my own and argue my "lunatic ravings" on my own and I don't need anyones support.... EVER! I've earned my red stripes that way and I'm VERY proud of them. If you believe stronly in your opinions then STAND AND ARGUE but don't accuse others of taking sides against you.. that the mark of a candyass whimp. Hell.. I don't even agree with those who agree with me! How many times have I gotten the "Bill I agree with you so why are you arguing with me?" Because I dont AGREE with them and what they say even when they agree with me... Yeah.. crazy arent I?

This forum IS OPEN to everyone including gays. And you know.. you probably have spoken to atleast one. Now go wash your mouth out.

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Having said that, I have decided to quit the Forum.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass. In addition don't accuse anyone for running you off because they havent, you quit of your own accord so there is no one to blame but yourself..... Probably cant even see that can you?

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NEPTUNE

NOV 15, 12:53 PM

From the AP, in todays newspaper:

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Capetown, Aouth Africa
South Africas Parliament overwhelmingly approved legislation Tuesday recognizing gay marriages, a first for a continent where homosexuality is largely considered taboo. By a vote of 230 - 41 with three abstentions, the National Assembly passed the Civil Union Bill,a compromise after months of heated public debate. [QUOTE]

You can ***** and moan and pass meaningless laws all you want, but human rights inherently belong to all humans.
Its coming here, just as sufferage for women and equal rights for minorities finally did, so you better get used to it.

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84Bill

NOV 15, 01:06 PM

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. —

JohnnyK

NOV 15, 01:11 PM

You guys should actually probably BE glad that this is moved to where it won't be seen, and the fact that it's on a tiny obsolete car board, instead of somewhere where people could really see it.. I mean I know you're 'proud' of views and all that, but, so are many groups.

84Bill

NOV 15, 01:19 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jstricker:
Yes, I do believe it your right to refuse service to anyone you choose. I am consistent. You want to ban me, ban me. Heck, you don't even have to. Since I am "loathed" to you, all you have to do is tell me to leave. Just say the word Cliff and I'm gone. I have that much respect for you and your beliefs. Can you say the same for mine? Oh, no, you can't, because I'm wrong and to be loathed MERELY FOR EXPRESSING AN OPINION.
John Stricker

John.. You are not loathed by anyone but your crappy opinions are... BIG BIG difference.. Are you blonde by chance?

As far as being banned.. thats up to the people of this forum.. Duhhh