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fierofetish
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NOV 14, 05:03 PM
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There once was a young lad of 7 years.He would love to be asked by his Mum to ride into town, 6 miles away, to do some errands for her.One day, he was asked to get some shopping, to help his Mum.He got on his bike, and pedalled off to town,where he picked up the groceries his Mum had asked for. He put them in his saddlebag, and set off on the journey back home.Passing the local railway station, he realised he needed to go to the toilet.So he stood his bike against the wall outside, and went in.Standing at the urinal, he was suddenly aware of a door opening behind him. A man, who appeared to be a lot older than the boy, came out of the cubilcle he had been in, smiled, and then stood beside the boy. Looking down at where the lad was relieviing himself, he smiled again, and nodding toward the young lad's fly, said" Well, that isn't so big, is it?" The boy looked up at the man, confused."Never mind" the man said."One day, when you are grown, you will have one like this", and proceeded to show his penis to the boy.The young lad blushed crimson, and turned away. The man then took his arm, and ppulled him into the cubicle, saying " come on, I'll show you what a real one feels like". The boy, who was very small, tried to pull away, but couldn't. The man shut the door, and stood between the door and the boy." Now, all you have to do s hold it in your hand, and rub it, like this"...
Fast forward to a time 3 years later.The same boy had two brothers. The elder brother had an older friend, who had been his prefect in school, and sometimes came round to visit for a while at the weekend. Sometimes, he would invite his second brother, who was 15, to go to the local beach for a swim. This happened quite a few times, until one weekend the man came round, and his second brother seemed to have disappeared." Never mind" He told the boy's Mum.." Perhaps your younger son would like to come?" The young lad felt so proud and grownup, to e invited to go swimming with this friend of his brothers, and rushed upstairs to get his swimming trunks.Mum waved goodbye, as they drove off to the seaside.."be careful, won't you?"
He had a lot of fun, swimming, and throwing stones with this nice man, and all too soon it was time to go home."Would you like to go again?" the man asked the young lad."Oh yes please!" "Ok, if the weather is fine I will come next Saturday. The weekend came, the weather was fine, and the man in his shiny MG TA turned up, and off they went.This time it wasn't so much fun. The man swqam out a little further with the young boy, and they swam and splashed around.Suddenly, the man asked"Have you ever swum without your trunks?" "Suddenly, the young man had a flashback, and turned crimson."No" he stammered." Oh, you should try it!! There is nothing like the freedom you feel swimming naked!! Here, let me hold your trunks while you try".He slipped the young lad's trunks down with ease, and laughed, and swam off with them. The young lad was confused..was it a fun game, or..? They swam around for a while, with the man holding his trunks out of reach. Eventually, the young lad lunged for them, and they struggled for possesion. Suddenly, the trunks were gone.Oh no!! What was he to do? He would die of embarassment to gwet out of the sea, naked.He eventually persuaded the man to go ashore and get is briefs, so he could cover himself.The man smiled, and apologised, saying it was just a bit of fun that went wrong, and bought the boy an icecream, to show that he really WAS a nice man.
The next weekend came, and this time the man brought a canoe with him, on a trailer. His Mum said "That will be fun!! He is going to take you down the river to the sea, and back again!!". The thought of going in a canoe pushed the bad thoughts to the back of his mind, and off they went.
The story continues in this vein, for 11 more occasions, with 11 different 'nice guys', until the boy was 16, and was quite strong, and not so afraid.
3 more attempts were made on him before he became 18, and left home. He went to Art College, and University. He then started to play in Bands, and doing pretty well. He wasn't brilliant, but was above average. Several times, over the next 4 years, he was offered the chance of the 'Big Time'. Unfortunately, that 'Big Time' came at a price. All the old fears came flooding back, and the young man moved away to another part of the land.He got married twice, anf both times the marriage failed.He decided he would never try again, until he met a young Lady in Spain, who has now been with him, and helped him forget the nightmares that even then still came.
They haven't visited the man for many many years..until today, when he was alone in his garage, working on a car. The fears had been re-awakened by something he wished he had never read. And he cried. He had been betrayed by people he had been happy to chat and laugh with, and to share stories.
Some of these people, without malice, because how could they know??, were actually standing up for the kind of men who had damaged him so..mentally and physically.
What these people should realise is, that heterosexuals are normal until the carry out a horrible deed against somebody else. These other minority group, aren't normal, any of them, because they have to have perverted desires to be included in that group. So you see, even if they do not harm somebody else, they are still perverted, to that young man, who has grown to nearly 60 years of age, carrying scars, both mental AND PHYSICAL, from the terrible encounters with those men.
If you choose to read this, please believe me. I had never even told my dearest Mother of the things I have been through. Only 5 years ago, did I pluck up the courage to explain to my Wife why I used to refuse to go with her to visit her friends of many years.You see, they were homosexulas too. Ellie told these two guys as to why I never went with her to visit, and they were the kindest, sweetest people you could ever meet. They talked to me for hours, and tried to sooth the pain in my heart.These two guys were nothing like the others.But even they could not rid me of the disgust I still feel for the others.
I don't ask for replies,or sympathy or regret. I just ask those, who shout so loud in defence of these people, to consider the feelings of others like me too. Women aren't the sole sufferers from rape, you know. And ALL my rapists and assaulters were homosexuals. Predators on innocent and defenceless young boys and men.I hope none of your children EVER have to go through the traumas I have. If it happens, god forbid, I hope you will be able to face yourself in the mirror each morning. It is more likely to happen nowadays, than 53 years ago.
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84Bill
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NOV 14, 05:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Oscar:
I believe due to the bantering between views regarding this topic and the negative antics of some members as simply TRASH talk...thus moving the topic to where all the trash talkers can continue should they choose play in this trash.
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Nice to see you are still kicking around the trashcan
| quote | Originally posted by BigBoyToys:
Poor"cowardly"Bill
BBTs
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Speeking of trashtalk 
Maybe one day you will grow up and become a man.. till then...
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Patrick
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NOV 14, 05:45 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierofetish:
The fears had been re-awakened by something he wished he had never read. And he cried. He had been betrayed by people he had been happy to chat and laugh with, and to share stories.
Some of these people, without malice, because how could they know??, were actually standing up for the kind of men who had damaged him so..mentally and physically.
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Nick, your story is both touching and horrible. As I stated to you earlier, men who prey on children need to be castrated at the very least.
I’m sorry, but I do not agree with tarring all homosexuals with the same brush. Some gay men rape boys. Some straight men rape girls. Should women therefore demand that ALL men be treated with contempt, treated as second class citizens, denied services?
Sound ridiculous? Sure it does.
Nick, in no way am I making light of your experiences. Not a chance. However, because of the severe emotional trauma you’ve been put through, I can’t imagine you’d ever be able to look at this situation through totally un-biased eyes. That doesn’t negate your opinion, but it also doesn’t supercede those opinions which are in direct opposition to your own.
I sincerely hope that some day you’ll be able to purge all the pain.
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JohnnyK
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NOV 14, 05:45 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierofetish:
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That is about pedophiles, not homosexuals.. Well, maybe homosexual pedophiles, but they DO NOT go hand in hand all (or even the majority) of the time.
I was robbed once... Turns out they were black. Blacks are bad?
In no way judging or saying it's not important (!!) I just think it's a skewed way to say thats why homosexuals are 'bad'.[This message has been edited by JohnnyK (edited 11-14-2006).]
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fierofetish
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NOV 14, 06:15 PM
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Well, in a strange way, I am both glad and upset that I read this thread.It seems to have gone some way to purging the pain.After I wrote it, I cried again. Ellie asked what was the matter, adn I asked her to read that which I have written above. She learned a few bits about me NOBODY ever knew before. The love and devotion this Lady shows me transcends anything I have ever known except from my Mum.
I still wonder if that man had tried it on with my brother,and he let him take me in too.I daren't ask him, because if it did happen to him first, I would never have anything to do with him. Or at least, that was the way I thought. But now, today, I have understood some of my own fears, and wonder if he had them too, which prevented him fromdoing anything, because he would have to explain. Now, today, I hold no more bitterness toward him, just sympathy, if that WAS what he went through.
Patrick, I wrote at the bottom of almost my last post, that I thought maybe my views were biased, as a result of the things I went through. I know I will never ever feel kindly, or sympathetic to homosexuals as a group. The few that have become friends have been kind and understanding, and tried to help. But I STILL can't trust even them, 100%.
JohnnyK..you are my friend, and I understand your comments.But, to me they are the same..homosexuals and pedophiles.Can't help it.
So once again, I am not going to get embroiled in the argument, discussion or whatever.I just wish there could be a category made for this sort of thing, and I wouldn't even know it existed.
So, now, I am going back to my thread about the Spitfire, show some pictures of progress, and try and ignore this. See you there, all of you, if you want to see how it is going.
Nick
I don't think I need to say this, but I will. Everything is true.Not fantasy made up to back up my feelings. May their God protect the innocents, and their Devil make the others pay in Hell.
Nick
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Formula88
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NOV 14, 06:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by JohnnyK:
That is about pedophiles, not homosexuals.. Well, maybe homosexual pedophiles, but they DO NOT go hand in hand all (or even the majority) of the time.
I was robbed once... Turns out they were black. Blacks are bad?
In no way judging or saying it's not important (!!) I just think it's a skewed way to say thats why homosexuals are 'bad'.
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If someone had been mugged several times by different black men, he just might think all blacks are muggers.
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JohnnyK
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NOV 14, 06:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Formula88:
If someone had been mugged several times by different black men, he just might think all blacks are muggers.
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Yeah, I know, thats what I was getting at. But I'm saying although ones experience might dictate that, it's not necessarily the case.
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Falcon4
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NOV 14, 08:48 PM
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Heh. I am so glad this topic is out of view now.
You may now all flame each other in the appropriate section of the forum, without me bitching about it... the trash can. At least in a trash can, it won't catch other things on fire. 
And no, I never said "THIS IS THE WAY IT IS, SO DISCUSSION OVER". I said "DISCUSSION HAS ENDED". I didn't even say which way was what. The whole time I was saying to STFU, I was just saying that: STFU. It's only when 84Bill started asking dumb questions that I answered them, and continued to STFU the discussion. At any rate, the fortunate thing is, there's no more problem with having to watch people duke it out in the otherwise somewhat-tame Off-Topic forum, so all 84Bill-bashing is fair game. Muahaha. I'm so glad to see more people giving Bill a good what-for.  ------------------
'87 Fiero GT, Automatic, 153k miles, stock everything, just trying to make it all work again. :D
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Formula88
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NOV 14, 09:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by JohnnyK:
Yeah, I know, thats what I was getting at. But I'm saying although ones experience might dictate that, it's not necessarily the case. |
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Agreed.
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isthiswhereiputausername?
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NOV 14, 10:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by fierofetish:
But, to me they are the same..homosexuals and pedophiles.Can't help it.
May their God protect the innocents, and their Devil make the others pay in Hell.
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I agree with you Nick.. Both have no place in my life and never will.
For some people in here that are so blinded by being politically correct and hold their rainbow panties high *cough* 84 bill *cough* johnnyk *cough* excuse me, just needed to cough there 
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1052/1052_01.asp
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