Five against one. Fair fight? Perhaps not. (Page 5/26)
GT86 MAY 30, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:


You guys just don't get it, do you? How many times do I have to repeat that I've not once criticized the Marine for doing what he did. My message all along has been that it's ugly and distressing (to say the least) that we have teenage girls (pregnant or otherwise) dying in the streets. Is this the kind of society we wish to be living in? It's not about who's right or wrong, it's about what a ****ed up world we're living in at the moment.




It is a ****ed up world, but then again, it always has been. There's a cliche that says violence never solves anything, but look at our history. Most of it was written in violence. That's a sad fact, but one that is inescapable. You ask what kind of society we want to live in. I answer that it doesn't really matter what we want, we're stuck with what we've got. Our society is a by-product of human nature, and as such, there are many flaws. Wanting to change society is a noble idea, but it requires changing the human beast, and that's not likely.

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cancerkazoo MAY 30, 05:05 PM
Natural selection....
connecticutFIERO MAY 30, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:


You come from the false premise that this society is "civilized" which, clearly, it is not. Caviat emptor. The woman was trying to mug someone.



I partially agree with you here. Go to any heavily populated area and drive around the streets. You will find civilized downtowns and peaceful streets, but you will also find burned out cars, drug dealers, people agreesively looking for violence, and just as many crack houses as homes. It's like some areas are war zones that you don't dare enter. Here in Hartford CT people get shot, stabbed, beaten and killed every single week. Usually in the North end, but it can happen pretty much anywhere. Then again you can go to downtown Hartford and see live Jazz and walk around the pubs with relative safety. It's crazy. Some people are so ignorant, numb, desperate, drugged out, or just mean to the core that they simply feel no need to play by the rules. They rob, kill, destroy and hate. Not very civilized if you ask me.
Jake_Dragon MAY 30, 05:08 PM

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ATLANTA -- Five robbers picked the wrong victim in Midtown Atlanta last night and one of them paid with her life.
The victim, Thomas Autry, fought back; killing one robber and wounding another. Three other suspects are in jail.
Autry was walking to his girlfriend's home after getting off work as a waiter at Jocks and Jills.
The five suspects pulled up in a car and confronted the victim in the 500 block of Penn Street just before midnight.
Autry began running down the street yelling for help. Residents who heard him called 911. While he was running, Autry pulled a pocket knife from his backpack.
Two of the robbers jumped from the car. When one of the robbers pointed a shotgun at him, the Autry kicked it out of his hands.
At that point two of the robbers jumped on the victim. During the struggle he stabbed both of them. One, a teenaged female who has been identified as Amy Martin, died of her wounds. Officials say Martin was pregnant. A second is in critical condition.
Police arrived on the scene and with a description of the car; they quickly arrested the three other suspects.
Other suspects arrested were identified as Christopher Daniel, 19, of Atlanta; Kendall Barksdale, 18, of Atlanta; Christopher Hayes, 18, of Douglasville and a 16-year-old male juvenile. They will all be charged with aggravated assault and armed robbery.
Thomas Autry, who is a former U.S. Marine, will not be charged since police say he was acting in self defense. Officials say Autry is extremely remorseful.



He had to pull the knife from a backpack, he was not ready to kill anyone. He ran away yelling for help. Sure he kicked the shot gun to the ground, should he have waited until someone picked it back up before he used his knife to defend himself? Two people jumped him, the group had already held a gun on him and how was he to know how far the two people that jumped him were prepared to go? He is going to have to live with this for the rest of his life, do I feel sorry for the girl? Sure I feel bad that someone lost a life today, I feel bad when anyone has to die for no good reason. But she put this on herself, if put in the same situation I would do the same thing.
I probably wouldn’t have ran so far yelling, I'm not as young as I use to be and they didn’t make us run before a fight in the Navy

I hope this young man is able to get over the ordeal and go about his life, do you think that will be possible or do you think he will see this girls face every day for the rest of his life? Who should we be feeling bad for?
under8ted MAY 30, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:


Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed.




If she was that pregnant she shouldnt have been taking part in a mugging, should she?

and whats age got to do with it? if she is old enough to point a shotgun she is old enough to take the consequenses.

Kudos to that Marine.
fierogtowner MAY 30, 05:31 PM
Umm, a pregnant girl or not, IS, responsible for the well-being of the baby. She disregards her life, the unborn baby's life, the Marine's life. She deserved to die, unfortunately, in this case, the baby is dead too. Sorry.
Derek_85GT MAY 30, 05:33 PM
I just find it disturbing that they were all under 19, all five of them. Says something about the youth of my generation.
JohnnyK MAY 30, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by mxfox:

being that she was involved in this she would have probably had the child aborted by a doctor or aborted herself with drugs and drink,



That'll go down as the dumbest thing I hear all week, I'll bet.
madcurl MAY 30, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by under8ted:
If she was that pregnant she shouldnt have been taking part in a mugging, should she?

Kudos to that Marine.



From the report, She was only 2-weeks pregnant which she may not known? The report went onto say that in the past weeks, "Recent drive-by" robberies have occured.

As for the girl involved....too bad. She and her hoodlums had plenty of time to back-out of the robbery. However, they decided to chase the dude. As for the victim, "I'd rather be a live dog than a dead lion."

As for the media going to the victims house...Those bastards!!! They blasted the guys apartment number all over the tv station. I see the criminals "friends" coming back for playback. Strange how when the police kills someone, the tv media keeps their address out of view. If I was the guy who was victimised, I'd be ready to move out of the area.

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FIEROPHREK MAY 30, 06:12 PM
I have a question. Can you look at a teeneage girl and tell she's 2 weeks preggers? I sure as hell can't and i bet when the shotgun was presented the EX-Marine wasn't thinking about anyone at the confrotation being pregnant. The bottom line is she shouldn't have had her piece-o-sh!t a$$ there. I doubt she herself knew she was pregnant. The fact that she was close enough to the action to get stabbed to death means she was there for no intention of doing any good. She stepped into a situation that she couldn't handle and wound up paying the ultimate price. I wouldn't cry for the dead woman , I'll cry for her unborn child. Why do people always turn sh!t around and make it look like the victim is actually at fault ? A law abidding citizen gets attacked and he's the criminal, yeah he shouldn't have been walking the streets thats just crazy. I mean no "honost joe" does that anymore he musta been up to no good and deserved to be attacked.

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