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Capt Fiero
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AUG 12, 01:46 AM
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This topic has gone 
HeHe, I own page 2 of what has turned out to be a garbage thread. Cliff if you read this please close this thread, trash can it before the rest of the clowns in here really turn it dirty. UGH. [This message has been edited by Capt Fiero (edited 08-12-2005).]
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Unrivaled
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AUG 12, 01:47 AM
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It was flame wars like this over the 4.9 that made me stay a lurker rather than join and possibly get caugh up in it. So I have some questions to all of those that disparage 4.9 swaps. Why are 4.9 always being harrassed about getting/going to a dragstrip when most swappers never intended the swap for that purpose? Heavly modded SBCs are slightly faster than heavly modded 3800SCs and turbos. Why is that point never raised? They also have 8 cylinders don't they? People speak in glowing terms to someone swapping a Yamaha motor from a Ford SHO, but hammer those that swap GM 4.9s. Am I the only one that believe some of us have things twisted.? Personally, I congratulate those innovative mavericks that dared to take a different and less popular path. If it wasn't for them we'd all still be stuck with just the 2,5 and 2,8 without additional motors as options. So just accept that fact that we all love the Fiero whether it's a notchie or fastback. Ultimately what counts is if the owner is happy with his car regardless if it runs 11.54, 17.1 or anything in between, Would we not be better off celebrating our camraderie as we express our love for Fieros? [This message has been edited by Unrivaled (edited 08-12-2005).]
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Master Tuner Akimoto
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AUG 12, 02:22 AM
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It is just a few like this ........... Fool that jumps all over the place shooting off his mouth and attacking other members who don't share his views how awesome the northstar is and how modern is the technology in comparison to the 4.9 push rod engine . This came about with Ryan Hess asking a simple question then he started to talk crap till he found out that rockcrawl built the car then he got nasty which is his pattern if you have different views from him . Who gives a rat hair if it has 32 valves ,4 cams an expensive ECU $3000 on a stock motor I presume because he has not mentioned any other work done to it , it will only rev higher but he is assuming that a 4.9 cannot be worked to provide equal power which is not the case and let me say this your set up will barely do better than a 4.9 considering all that money $6000 you have in it and you know what .......It Dosen't Matter that is your choice .  [This message has been edited by Master Tuner Akimoto (edited 08-12-2005).]
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SLOWnSTEADY
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AUG 12, 02:25 AM
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13's from a 4.9? my old neon had a slightly modded 2.0 and it ran low 14's
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crzyone
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AUG 12, 07:41 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Master Tuner Akimoto: It is just a few like this ........... Fool that jumps all over the place shooting off his mouth and attacking other members who don't share his views how awesome the northstar is and how modern is the technology in comparison to the 4.9 push rod engine . This came about with Ryan Hess asking a simple question then he started to talk crap till he found out that rockcrawl built the car then he got nasty which is his pattern if you have different views from him . Who gives a rat hair if it has 32 valves ,4 cams an expensive ECU $3000 on a stock motor I presume because he has not mentioned any other work done to it , it will only rev higher but he is assuming that a 4.9 cannot be worked to provide equal power which is not the case and let me say this your set up will barely do better than a 4.9 considering all that money $6000 you have in it and you know what .......It Dosen't Matter that is your choice .  |
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Wow, you stoop pretty low in this thread, might be as low as you've gone yet. If you read what has been said, I havn't mentioned my motor in this thread, you guys brought it up. Attacking a N* when you own a hackjob 4.9 is pretty pathetic. Its only a matter of time when you run your motor all that paint will go to your beaings... pathetic. Living beyond my means eh? Oh I can afford the N*, thats not the problem. Its TIME.. I wish I had time like you to make a bondo queen, but I don't. I work in the oil field in Alberta, and if you didn't know, we make a decent amount of cash. The higher the price of oil and gas, the busier I am. Read a newspaper, oil is at $65/bbl. I have not attacked 4.9s in this thread, its not about 4.9s. MTA just loves flying off the handle when someone calls him out. I seem to be the only one on this board who realizes he is a shadey character. He does jobs for people with terrible work and nothing but excuses. He has wild claims with his own engines, which are definitly not true and got him kicked off the fiero 1/4 mile list. So MTA, whats next? What else are you going to assume about me? I'm lucky, there are too many pissed off people and facts floating around about you, I don't have to assume anything.
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Kohburn
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AUG 12, 08:18 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Unrivaled: It was flame wars like this over the 4.9 that made me stay a lurker rather than join and possibly get caugh up in it. So I have some questions to all of those that disparage 4.9 swaps. Why are 4.9 always being harrassed about getting/going to a dragstrip when most swappers never intended the swap for that purpose? Heavly modded SBCs are slightly faster than heavly modded 3800SCs and turbos. Why is that point never raised? They also have 8 cylinders don't they? People speak in glowing terms to someone swapping a Yamaha motor from a Ford SHO, but hammer those that swap GM 4.9s. Am I the only one that believe some of us have things twisted.? Personally, I congratulate those innovative mavericks that dared to take a different and less popular path. If it wasn't for them we'd all still be stuck with just the 2,5 and 2,8 without additional motors as options. So just accept that fact that we all love the Fiero whether it's a notchie or fastback. Ultimately what counts is if the owner is happy with his car regardless if it runs 11.54, 17.1 or anything in between, Would we not be better off celebrating our camraderie as we express our love for Fieros? |
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things turn into a flaim war when people venemously defent speed and hp claims without proof. rather than providing proof they get personal and make attacks. the same thing does happen with the 3800sc and v8's - just hasn't happened in a while.. people respect the 4.9 as a good swap - but don't like seeing things advertised as being faster than what others have proved their swaps to be without some proof of mods or timeslips. nobody has attacked the 4.9 in this thread - only unsubstantiated claims. Rockcrawl was kind enough to come and explain where the number came from and I respect his work.
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Unrivaled
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AUG 12, 08:29 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by SLOWnSTEADY: 13's from a 4.9? my old neon had a slightly modded 2.0 and it ran low 14's |
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Standard reply = No matter how fast it runs it's still a dime a dozen Neon and resident member of rental fleets everywhere. 
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Master Tuner Akimoto
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AUG 12, 08:40 AM
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You are just jealous what for I dont know eat your heart out......... FOOL you live in a make belief world and your N* will never do what you think it will do, with every post you make it shows your level of intelligence. Why are you worrying about my car?????? I care less what you think of me ....FOOL stop looking for sympathy because none you will get from me you hypocrite. My car has all the comfort and speed that I need because and say all you want I built it how I want it ................my way not yours so stop trolling and go try and finish your hi tech swap because if you think slapping a $3000 ECU on will make you faster than the rest of N* out there you are sadly mistaken with your stock used up motor . You fail to understand one thing about swaps people know what they want and can afford unlike you that has been through a 3.4dohc,4.9,LT1 and now your N* .........what next ? a locomotive engine or a 18 wheeler ..................You are mixed up and that is why I call you a .......FOOL ,you are like a fruit fly flying and pitching on every thing ruining just about every thread you butt in may be you are drinking the oil at your job trying to lubricate your frozen brain and BTW you said further up it was your last post but you are still here ??????????????????.  Stop trying to keep up with The other N* owners like PBJ,Rockcrawl,Will,GSXR Bobby at least they are not going around trying to prove how superior their motor is to the 4.9 and is the ultimate because your motor will never ever reach that level with out work and you are not capable by reading your logics of doing it ....FOOL.
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Kohburn
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AUG 12, 09:54 AM
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MTA - you really need to sit dow, grill up some shrimp, drink a red-stripe and relax - you've spammed this thread with probably 3 times as much material as him with far more personal attacks.
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Master Tuner Akimoto
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AUG 12, 10:19 AM
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I see where you have come to defend you buddy .............no problem with that,all I did was to make a statement in reply to rockcrawl quote and he started all this and it went down hill from there but you have to defend yourself if you are attacked. I don't know this guy but for obvious reasons he has a thing for me that when ever I post in a thread not related to him he starts this confrontation talking things about me based on one incident that he has no facts only from what was told to him ,I have not addressed it because it makes no sense as this was a business transaction between a disgruntled customer and me and I see no reason to air dirty laundry on the subject which I could have but he choose to prolong it by taking stabs at me . Now that I know who my detractors are I refrain to enter a thread they start or reply to a quote they made but he choose to do the opposite, I under stand where all this is coming from but all this mud slinging is being motivated by ulterior motives he has ....so I will take your advice drink a icy cold"RED STRIPE " mon and forget about him and I will keep it clean . 
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