Who is waiting for a harness from Loyde Rascoe at Fastfieros? (Page 47/49) MstangsBware JUN 13, 10:40 PM Got a call abck from Rick Perry but I missed it. I just sent him a text about meeting up this week to talk....The lawyer thing went South(get it) so that is no bueno.....Still waiting on the call from Bruno about the assasian..... Things are looking good... IwannaIRM JUN 13, 11:09 PM quote Originally posted by mptighe: Good luck with it, after seeing Cliff's response, I have a very different opinion of him now. I honestly don't think he cares what Loyde does. He thinks this only affects .01% of the forum so it's not something he's going to deal with, and the maturity level of certain people will keep surfacing so I think this is bound to repeat itself indefinitely. As I said, I'll be happy to help anyone in any way I can, even if it's just to help people coordinate a way to recover what they've lost. *Edit* At this point Will and anyone else that has not received their property back should file a report for their property being stolen. Technically at this point he has held their property against their wishes and that is a form of theft. If the local police department doesn't act on a stolen auto/property report, then they themselves can have charges pressed against them with the county/state officials. There is always a way guys. What bone do you have in this? All I see is you instigating things here. I'm in the same boat as Mustangsbeware, Loyde has always done right by me, slow on one thing, but everything else he has done has been on par. Sitting in Houston there is nothing "YOU" personally can do. If you drive to Dallas and step foot on his property without an invite I'm sure you're going to find yourself on the wrong side of the iron bar hotel. All I can say is that your witch-hunting tactics will get you no where. I'm not sure what satisfaction you're looking for but I am sure it won't be what you want or expect. mptighe JUN 14, 10:17 AM quote Originally posted by IwannaIRM: What bone do you have in this? All I see is you instigating things here. I'm in the same boat as Mustangsbeware, Loyde has always done right by me, slow on one thing, but everything else he has done has been on par. Sitting in Houston there is nothing "YOU" personally can do. If you drive to Dallas and step foot on his property without an invite I'm sure you're going to find yourself on the wrong side of the iron bar hotel. All I can say is that your witch-hunting tactics will get you no where. I'm not sure what satisfaction you're looking for but I am sure it won't be what you want or expect. Let me clear some things up for you. You didn't have a problem with Loyde, good for you. That doesn't seem to be the norm at the moment. If I were you, I would just be grateful instead of arguing with the members that HAVE had an issue with him, or members who would help them out. The amount of money Loyde has STOLEN from Will, and others from what I have read, is enough money to put a down payment on a house! It's not $100 for some Fiero parts, it's THOUSANDS. This doesn't even include the people that paid for harnesses and never got them. I chose to involve myself to see if I could help, and no I'm not as limited as you apparently are. I don't need to go to Loyde's to help out. I know enough about the law and business to help people in a more effective manner.This isn't a witch-hunt, as I'm not policing the boards looklng for people to give a hard time to. This particular situation disgusts me though, as does your attitude towards it. Dennis started out defending Loyde as well, and look how Loyde reacted. This guy needs to be exposed to everyone that would send money his way, and he needs to make restitution for the money and property he has defrauded members (and non-members) out of. When you do something that is both illegal and unethical, and there is record of it in a public forum, there will be public outrage. Why don't you and Mstangs there explain why this notion is so foreign to you? Because he's your friend? If you don't want to get involved, fine. Don't sit there and tell me I shouldn't stick up for the people he victimized though, it just makes you look like an ass. Mstangs, thanks for constantly proving me right about what kind of person you are. Now you're actually mocking the situation where people were taken advantage of. I hope people are paying attention, as this might be a clue that you're capable of taking advantage of others yourself. IwannaIRM JUN 14, 01:38 PM quote Originally posted by mptighe: I chose to involve myself to see if I could help, Haven't seen where you have helped anyone yet. I’m still waiting to actually see if you will do anything other than just type your mind. quote and no I'm not as limited as you apparently are. I don't need to go to Loyde's to help out. I know enough about the law and business to help people in a more effective manner. There are no bounds to my limitations. I have always worked out my “OWN” problems without the help of a "mother hen" on an internet forum who thinks they know what's going on. I seek advice when needed and I am sure most intelligent people do the same. quote This particular situation disgusts me though, as does your attitude towards it. My attitude? I only asked why you are so bent on getting involved when it has nothing to do with you. Do I condone his actions? No, never stated that I did. Am I concerned about other peoples business with him? Not really, since it doesn't directly involve me. I'm apathetic to them but I'm not going to poke and prod to no avail. Does he run a perfect business model? Well, no he doesn't. But that does not discount that I have been pleased with all of his past work, sales, and technical help he has provided to me in the past. I am sure others are in the same boat. What part of "THIS" don't you understand? quote Dennis started out defending Loyde as well, and look how Loyde reacted. Learn the whole story on this issue. Loyde confided in Dennis with personal issues that were never supposed to be discussed but Dennis couldn't keep his mouth shut. Look at the history, it’s here on the forum, I’m sure you can find it. quote This guy needs to be exposed to everyone that would send money his way, and he needs to make restitution for the money and property he has defrauded members (and non-members) out of. When you do something that is both illegal and unethical, and there is record of it in a public forum, there will be public outrage. Why don't you and Mstangs there explain why this notion is so foreign to you? Because he's your friend? If you don't want to get involved, fine. Don't sit there and tell me I shouldn't stick up for the people he victimized though, it just makes you look like an ass. I've never said I was blind to his business transactions. Everyone that reads this forum is well aware of his dealings. I made a simple comment that I have had “GOOD” experiences with him. Everyone is free to make their own opinions and decisions based on input from other members that have utilized his services both good and bad. By stating that I have had good experiences with his services neither makes me look stupid or says that I am not apathetic towards others misfortunes. It’s a judgment that you, yourself made. Don't for one moment think or feel you know me and pass judgment on what my thoughts are in regards to anything. I kept my previous comments cordial so why you find a need to say I look like an ass is beyond me. Last time I looked I don’t have a black mane, tail or pointed ears and I surely don’t run around braying at things just because I want to lead the band-wagon. Just because your maturity level won't allow you to comment like a rational, mature adult doesn't mean you need to resort to name-calling and swearing. But if that's what your demeanor will allow than I'm sorry for you and your generation. And lastly, I will not sit here and go back-and-forth with you in regards to this. I've stated my opinion and my past experiences. I have no reason to justify any other input you may disagree with. mptighe JUN 14, 02:22 PM quote Originally posted by IwannaIRM: And lastly, I will not sit here and go back-and-forth with you in regards to this. I've stated my opinion and my past experiences. I have no reason to justify any other input you may disagree with. Good we both agree on something. You stated your opinion, and you questioned mine. Done? I chose to try to help in a situation, one that you deem as not relevant to you. How and why I involve myself is also not something that involves you. If the people involved don't accept my offer of assistance, that's one thing. You chose to question my need/want/right to help in the way I deem fit. Don't be surprised when that brings judgment back on you. As far as the name calling and swearing part, re-read what I wrote. I didn't call you anything, I commented on your appearance from these particular actions. If you think this is a generational thing, then that's a judgment on your part. Don't be a hypocrite and do the same actions you accuse others of. If you do, expect to lose all credibility and to be called out on it. Now, anything else or are you really going to stop going back and forth on something you yourself said doesn't involve you by your own choice? IwannaIRM JUN 14, 03:15 PM quote Originally posted by mptighe: Good we both agree on something. I doubt it but you have your own opinion to maintain. quote You stated your opinion, and you questioned mine. Done? Nope, didn't question your opinion just your motive and your end gain. It appears to be personal for you, almost vendetta-like.<<judgmental, just wanted to point that out for those watching...ewww, evil...>> quote I chose to try to help in a situation, one that you deem as not relevant to you. How and why I involve myself is also not something that involves you. If the people involved don't accept my offer of assistance, that's one thing. You chose to question my need/want/right to help in the way I deem fit. Don't be surprised when that brings judgment back on you Someone questioning anothers objective doesn't place judgment. I didn't judge you in your assertation that your so-called offer for help was right or wrong, I just asked what will be your satisfaction from it. Simple question yet to be answered. quote As far as the name calling and swearing part, re-read what I wrote. I didn't call you anything, I commented on your appearance from these particular actions. Six of one, half dozen of another, same thing. Arguing over semantics. quote If you think this is a generational thing, then that's a judgment on your part. You're correct, I didn't mean to generalize. I should have said if this is how you respond then it's a sad day. quote Don't be a hypocrite and do the same actions you accuse others of. If you do, expect to lose all credibility and to be called out on it. What credibility are you speaking of? The credibility of my opinion? Oooooh, I've been called out...the agony...I'm going to internet hell now...oh my. I better stock up on ice water. quote Now, anything else or are you really going to stop going back and forth on something you yourself said doesn't involve you by your own choice? I never said, "this doesn't involve me by my own choice." I wish you would stop misquoting me and paraphrasing what you think I said. I just had to throw one more in for good measure. Maybe, I'll strike that quote from my last posting just to annoy you. Oh man, I can't even keep a promise! I'm so ashamed of myself. I'm sure you'll drop that one on me next. volley Hulki U. My-BFF JUN 14, 03:58 PM "Like sands through the hourglass, so are the Fieros of our lives." Cheever3000 JUN 14, 10:32 PM Oh man, the Trash Can makes threads no fun to bump anymore. Bummer. FastFieros JUN 14, 10:50 PM So far postings of REAL customers with REAL transactions in the last 3 pages > 2 , and they posted POSITIVE .. kieth is being taken care of because he is taking care of his side of the transaction... usually always boils down to money. I just dont air out my side on PFF.. I wait until where it really counts, if needed... and it has not needed to come to that. BECAUSE I deliver a product that actually 100% and the customer is happy happy... oh so happy... All other are trolls and instigators with only hear say and slander. Thank you mptighe JUN 14, 11:27 PM quote Originally posted by FastFieros: So far postings of REAL customers with REAL transactions in the last 3 pages > 2 , and they posted POSITIVE .. kieth is being taken care of because he is taking care of his side of the transaction... usually always boils down to money. I just dont air out my side on PFF.. I wait until where it really counts, if needed... and it has not needed to come to that. BECAUSE I deliver a product that actually 100% and the customer is happy happy... oh so happy... All other are trolls and instigators with only hear say and slander. Thank you Yeah and I'm sure Will didn't pay you either, or any of the guys that you failed to deliver harnesses or pcm's to. No one is buying your crap Loyde, even your buddies have said they don't agree with how you've handled your business. To me that means they know you're full of it too, but they just don't worry about it because you didn't screw them over. Prove that it's wrong and I'll be the first to retract what I've said. Show us the proof that everyone got what they paid for. Let's see the 5 year build thread on Will's car, or Keith's for that matter. Let's see the tracking numbers for the list of people who claim you didn't get the harnesses to.