END OF KIT CARS? (Page 46/60)
I FAR I OCT 24, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by diabloroadster:

Took a few pics of my POS Diablo Roadster "kit car" last night in N. Austin~ http://www.flickr.com/photos/31604886@N08/

Kinda a last minute kind of deal, the car hadnt been washed since last week. Im about to respray the car and install a new drivetrain after xmas, so I kinda wanted some images of the car before I start the make-over. I built this car from a box of parts, using three different Fieros, to painted, running & driving in less than 6 1/2 months, so everything is not as good as I would like it to be.

BTW- These images are taken with the cheapest camera/lens I own, and the images are not finished in editing yet....



WOW........Awesome looking car and great work man, and yet some dumbazz here still thinks that replicas and kit cars are dead......HAHAHAHAHA......Haters are so stupid!
I FAR I OCT 24, 02:30 PM
@Boostdreamer....very well said!

A truly creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not by the desire to beat others(down).

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diabloroadster OCT 24, 03:06 PM
In reality the term "Replica" is used as a marketing tool it elevate the level of potential quailty in the product being sold. And sadly alot of the replica kits that are sold today are of very low quailty and sold by theives, scammers, basic scum, but there are some good quailty replica kits out there and good people selling them. In the end most of these "Replicas" are transformed into more of tributes or custom builds due to the poor quaility and over all gross misrepresentation of the ease of constructing these kits.

Very much like when people customize their Fiero's, kinda their own personal taste begins to take over and sometimes it works well and sometimes its just a major failure. Should be no matter how one person decides to design / build their own personal project- good or bad. But unfortunately there are some trolls out there who search out over the internet to find some kind of bad examples and post them here maybe in hopes of trying to make themselve look like a master custom car builder. Instead of trying to encourage or support someone else that enjoys customizing cars they have to poke at, make fun of, ridicule, someones effort for some stupid reason...... Pretty sad.....
madcurl OCT 24, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Fiero84Freak:

And you know - I have to say I find it incredibly ironic that you are posting about ferrobi's car. I distinctively remember you having quite a few posts early on in his construction thread... and I don't seem to remember any negativity towards him... ...




Yes. Thank you for pointing that out for I've never gone to their threads to attack them, but rather they did it to me on several occasions. If I might add none of the cars featured in this thread contained pictures of their cars so why are the replicants attacking me? There's only one conclusion; They are in fear of anyone pointing out the obvious bad points of the build such as the roof being a Fiero, the side windows being a Fiero, the car not being extended, and the list goes on and on. That said, the owners of the cars featured in this thread somehow have the nerve to "badge" their car is a replica of the original when in fact the cars are so far off the mark you can spot the fake 50 foot or in some cases here a block away.

Meanwhile, the replica owners here are gnashing their teeth because they have a 50-footer car. They're claims are: I built it with myself and I didn't pay somebody to build for me, it's cheaper to maintain, and cheaper to insure. All of that to a degree is true, but when asked, "Does the build look like the original?" " Why is the build so far off?" "How is it worthy of badging it as a iconic super car?"-they start gnashing their teeth trying to find ways of making you into a evil person.

Ferrorobi and others here are trying get others to believe that I hate "all replica" cars when in fact I only like the ones that are correctly built or builders who have used their own imagination in building something new.

12/15/2011


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Originally posted by madcurl:

For visuals;


















Tell me what do you see in these pics that others with replicas over look? Obviously, I'm not talking about the motor.

Now take a look at this beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz-IrhcNR4s

And now this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...bBSg&feature=related

As you can see both are replicas, all are not created equal for some kits are harder to detect because of the details. Bottom line. People have been viewing replicas for so long they've forgotten what the real one looks like or for that matter a better kit vs. one that isn't as good. However, like a magician revealing the "tricks of the tread" others replica owners don't want to hear it when the obvious is pointed out. If your going to try and fool somebody at least get the body right, brakes, and wheels. If you're rolling in a Lamborghini replica it is worst, because most if not all real Lamborghini owners roll with high end after market wheels and not the after market ones using adapters. I'm sorry, but the emperor isn't wearing clothes.




However, I find it "incredibly ironic" that nobody has taken notice of this very fact. If you go to either thread (Choptop Chronicles or the Arch Rival) you'll see that they're comments were deleted. Some will defend any kit car regardless of poorly it is built and if you point out the obvious bad points they will attack you.

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madcurl OCT 24, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by Boostdreamer:

Kits don't have to be exact replicas and they don't have to be over the top. They only have to be appealing to the buyer and builder. We don't have to covet these kits to prove they have value. If we open our eyes, we will see that someone had a vision and they went for it. Sometimes more successfully than others but they put their hands on their cars and they took a journey. Bravo to them!

Jonathan





That all sounds good, but why then are they badging it as such? Once you've badge the car the owner is making it known to the general public the replica car is this or that. There is no other explanation.
madcurl OCT 24, 03:54 PM




"Hi, my name is Barney Frank. You might remember me for making it possible for all Americans to own a home regardless of their income. Well I like to introduce to a new idea I have produced. I like to make it affordable for everybody to own a exotic replica. There's no need to worry about the kits not being on the mark for we have all of the necessary Ferrari and Lamborghini badges. Our kits start at $6,000.









"Failure is no accident."-Dr. Phil McGraw

madcurl OCT 24, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by ferrobi:

I'm contemplating a real Ferrari 308 with a 288 GTO body.




Here's a real Ferrari for you...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...a69030#ht_500wt_1182
Bloozberry OCT 24, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:
Some will defend any kit car regardless of poorly it is built and if you point out the obvious bad points they will attack you... If I might add none of the cars featured in this thread contained pictures of their cars so why are the replicants attacking me? There's only one conclusion; They are in fear of anyone pointing out the obvious bad points of the build such as the roof being a Fiero, the side windows being a Fiero, the car not being extended, and the list goes on and on.



Is that what you think you are doing... pointing out the bad points? People "attack" you because you indescriminately mock people and their cars. You post fat super hero pictures and call them replica owners. You call people names. You arrogantly tell people their cars have "obvious bad points" as though you have some unique qualification and right to judge taste and the duty to tell them. You haven't a smick of remorse or regret for anything you say regardless how many people you offend. And you keep doing it over and over again. You have no end game. You haven't accomplished anything except prove your ignorance when you can't understand why people "attack" your character. Free speech is a two way street. You're free to tell anyone they're ugly, flawed, or just don't quite meet your standards of taste. They're also free to tell you what they think of you. Many of us including some of your closest friends have asked you politely to stop your rants yet you forge ahead, resurrect this thread every couple weeks, and find new ways to insult people. For the sake of what? Please, please tell us all what you believe you've accomplished, or hope to.


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Originally posted by madcurl:
Thank you for pointing that out for I've never gone to their threads to attack them, but rather they did it to me on several occasions.



What on Earth are you talking about? First, this thread isn't your thread and yet you feel free to say say whatever you want. Second, for the record, I have never posted anything negative in your thread(s), but if you mock "replicants" as you just did in one of your own threads, don't play coy about how you're a victim.


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Originally posted by madcurl:
There's only one conclusion; They are in fear of anyone pointing out the obvious bad points of the build such as the roof being a Fiero, the side windows being a Fiero, the car not being extended, and the list goes on and on. That said, the owners of the cars featured in this thread somehow have the nerve to "badge" their car is a replica of the original when in fact the cars are so far off the mark you can spot the fake 50 foot or in some cases here a block away.



Yeah... that must be the only reason. Try re-reading many of the posts earlier on in this thread as well as any number of threads about building replicas. The majority of us aren't fearful of being "found out". Most of us point out the differences ourselves so that others will know what to look for. Why on Earth would anybody on this forum make a thread about how they converted their Fiero into a kitcar or replica if any of us were fearful as you say. That just doesn't make any sense. You just make up stuff to justify your drivel.


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Originally posted by madcurl:
That said, the owners of the cars featured in this thread somehow have the nerve to "badge" their car is a replica of the original when in fact the cars are so far off the mark you can spot the fake 50 foot or in some cases here a block away



The nerve of those people! Can anyone imagine anything worse! Oh wait a minute... what about people who leave only the door glass and front windshield and have the nerve to call their cars Fieros! Those people should surely be ridiculed publicly too.


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Originally posted by madcurl:
Ferrorobi and others here are trying get others to believe that I hate "all replica" cars when in fact I only like the ones that are correctly built or builders who have used their own imagination in building something new.



Ferrobi (at least get his name right won't you?) and others have absolutely no need to try to make others believe that you hate all replicas... you do a fine job all by yourself. One only needs to re-read this thread and watch as you change your definitions like a chameleon changes color to suit whatever audience you think will be sympathetic to your cause. One day it's 300 feet away, the next 50 feet, the next it doesn't matter how far or close. Then it's about badging regardless how close they are. Then another day it's not about the cars... it's about the owners and all the things you make up about their obvious personality flaws. The next day it's OK to be ugly as long as it's original. Then you deny any link between the "backwards thinking" kit car designers and builders who had a hand in designing your own car. It's all just a big mish-mash of incoherent garbage.


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Originally posted by madcurl:
If you go to either thread (Choptop Chronicles or the Arch Rival) you'll see that they're comments were deleted.



Yeah... you accused me of this earlier on in this thread too until I proved you wrong, and you still couldn't admit you falsely accused me.
diabloroadster OCT 24, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:


However, I find it "incredibly ironic" that nobody has taken notice of this very fact. If you go to either thread (Choptop Chronicles or the Arch Rival) you'll see that they're comments were deleted. Some will defend any kit car regardless of poorly it is built and if you point out the obvious bad points they will attack you.




And your point is what??? For 12 pages you spewing off about this person put real Lamborghini emblems on Fiero, another person has Fiero glass and roof line on his kit car. Look how bad this is, look how bad this kit is... For what??? Are the leader of some international secret organization whose sole purpose in life is to bring to everyones attention the these kit owners/builders are not doing to your standards? Or do you just need the attention so everyone can see your the master custom car builder by posting up images on a Fiero forum of cars that are not perfect examlpes of the real cars??
Are the owners/builders asking you for your advice, are they forcing you to buy or even look at their cars?
Why is so importrant to you bash someone else's car?
I just dont get it??
madcurl OCT 24, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by diabloroadster:


And your point is what??? For 12 pages you spewing off about this person put real Lamborghini emblems on Fiero, another person has Fiero glass and roof line on his kit car. Look how bad this is, look how bad this kit is... For what??? Are the leader of some international secret organization whose sole purpose in life is to bring to everyones attention the these kit owners/builders are not doing to your standards? Or do you just need the attention so everyone can see your the master custom car builder by posting up images on a Fiero forum of cars that are not perfect examlpes of the real cars??
Are the owners/builders asking you for your advice, are they forcing you to buy or even look at their cars?
Why is so importrant to you bash someone else's car?
I just dont get it??



So you don't get it huh? The pictures that on the various pages here were posted by forum members here to which several commented on them, but it's a double standard in your mind isn't? You can search the archives and you'll find where these "alleged" pics you claim I've used. However, Captain Bloozeberry and his trusty commrade ferrobi will have you to believe otherwise. Here's one for you.


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Originally posted by Archie:


John, you're thinking of the Kieley from the late '80's. He was a very nice guy who went all in on a 9 4 off suit.

I was looking thru some of my Archives a week ago & found this info on it.

It was the car that proved my theory that it costs just as much to develop an ugly car as it take to make a good looking car.







But the car that this thread is about makes the Kieley look pretty good.

Archie