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| Who is waiting for a harness from Loyde Rascoe at Fastfieros? (Page 46/49) |
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2farnorth
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JUN 12, 04:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by mptighe:
Just so you know, my father is an attorney and his first gig out of law school was as a prosecutor for the US Attorney's office in Omaha. I also have uncles and a cousin that are attorneys. basically I grew up with the law. I know a little more about it than you presume. It's not costly to get the DA or AG involved, as it is a CRIMINAL investigation on their end, not a civil case. They look into it and if they deem something illegal has been done, there are fines assessed, and possibly jail time. If they can, they will even return property and sometimes money to the victims. They may say that part of it is a civil matter, which then yes a victim will need to pay for an attorney (the costs of which Loyde could be made responsible for). You don't need to pay to report fraud though, and if there are enough reports (by the looks of his track record there indeed are), they will definitely go over and look into it. As far as the working 70 hours a week comment, I own a business and work 12 hour shifts six days a week myself. Stopping someone from continuing to rip people off in my opinion is not charity work, and that's the apathy thing I mentioned earlier.
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It still requires someone that has DIRECT knowledge of the crime or one that has been harmed or defrauded to file the complaint. Everything we get here on the internet is no better than hear-say. Just because I'm within 20 miles of the perp doesn't give me any authority or responsiblity. Jazzman tried to help and look what it got him. (Or didn't you read the first 9 pages)
Something you may not know... I don't think you will find any business license with the title FastFieros of Dallas on it. He works out of a shop inside a tall wooden fence in his residential back yard. That's why the BBB doesn't do anything. They don't even know where he is. You will notice that his web site does not list a physical address. He's a pretty good distance from Dallas.
If you want to consider me apathetic then enjoy your illusion.
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mptighe
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JUN 12, 06:31 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2farnorth:
It still requires someone that has DIRECT knowledge of the crime or one that has been harmed or defrauded to file the complaint. Everything we get here on the internet is no better than hear-say. Just because I'm within 20 miles of the perp doesn't give me any authority or responsiblity. Jazzman tried to help and look what it got him. (Or didn't you read the first 9 pages)
Something you may not know... I don't think you will find any business license with the title FastFieros of Dallas on it. He works out of a shop inside a tall wooden fence in his residential back yard. That's why the BBB doesn't do anything. They don't even know where he is. You will notice that his web site does not list a physical address. He's a pretty good distance from Dallas.
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It doesn't matter if he has a license or not, he's doing business and falls under the law's jurisdiction. The BBB keeps track of any complaint they get, whether or not they are a member. Don't think so, ask them. Will this fix the issue? No, I was using them as an example of things that people can do to deter people from going to him. I am not saying people should manufacture complaints against him. I am saying those of us who give a damn should help the people that HAVE had complaints against him. We as a community should also try to stop him from doing it to more people. Whether or not he has access to this forum IS something we can do things about. There are reviews that can be given online as well so that every time his website comes up, it also brings up the reviews as well. As far as him filing a law suit against anyone, slander or libel are civil matters. He would have to have the funds to start and pay for the lawsuit, which he does not have. If this gets big enough he will risk losing his own job and business so it's not likely that he will push the matter and get all that negative PR going on himself.
Apathy is among other things a suppression of emotions or concern. By that definition, yes I call you specifically apathetic. The only thing you're doing now is trying to argue why NOTHING can/should be done. What would you call it? I'm trying to be an advocate for the people he has harmed. You (and many others on here) are trying to defend why YOU cannot. Fine you aren't willing, there is no need to play devil's advocate and try to convince people that NO ONE can. If you're not willing to stick your neck out fine, no judgments. But for god's sake quit trying to spread your "this doesn't have anything to do with me so it's not anything of SERIOUS concern" attitude. Duck out if you don't deem this "charity" as important enough. I'm not delusional, this is your attitude, and it's NOT helping anyone.
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jeffdean42
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JUN 12, 06:57 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blakeinspace:
'is'ok... you and I stated our positions civilly and respectably. I think we understand each others point just fine, with no hard feelings (at least on my end). It doesn't happen all the time on the forum/internets.
Here's a group photo of NTFC at our last meeting.  (MstangsBware is Grumpy Bear)
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[[This message has been edited by jeffdean42 (edited 06-12-2010).]
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MstangsBware
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JUN 12, 08:16 PM
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Okay....I got up early today and got on the phone to Rick Perry...I left a message so hopefully I will get a call back. I also have a cousin that has a friend who knows this guy that has a friend that is a lawyer in Mexico. He is going to see if cousins friend can get something done.....If none of this pans out then I have a cousin that has a friend that knows a guy in the Russian mofia that migh help out....
I will keep everyone updated.....
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jeffdean42
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JUN 12, 10:59 PM
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first rule of mafia... there is no mafia. second rule of mafia, don't talk about the mafia.
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faaaaq
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JUN 12, 11:22 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 87antuzzi:
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online its ok sometimes....but not this time. i only read the last two pages and im bored...
"Dear Thread, You let down The Trash Can.
Sincerely, ****-YOU."
lol
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motoracer838
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JUN 13, 11:28 AM
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Way to go guys, This thread had relevance, "till it wound up in the trash can, this just makes it easier for more noobs to be victimized.
It's sad that the world we live in today can place a person in the path of a lawsuit for doing the right thing.
Joe
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mptighe
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JUN 13, 03:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by motoracer838:
Way to go guys, This thread had relevance, "till it wound up in the trash can, this just makes it easier for more noobs to be victimized.
It's sad that the world we live in today can place a person in the path of a lawsuit for doing the right thing.
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I've been going back and forth with Cliff about getting this removed from the trash can. He won't do it, period. Everyone can thank Dark Horizon for this, Cliff named him specifically. Good job DH, you just did Loyde a HUGE favor. I would give you a (-) for this, but I already gave it to you a while back for the way you act on the boards. You guys really need to learn some boundaries.
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Back On Holiday
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JUN 13, 06:26 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by mptighe:
I've been going back and forth with Cliff about getting this removed from the trash can. He won't do it, period. Everyone can thank Dark Horizon for this, Cliff named him specifically. Good job DH, you just did Loyde a HUGE favor. I would give you a (-) for this, but I already gave it to you a while back for the way you act on the boards. You guys really need to learn some boundaries.
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sounds like its time to start a new thread then? Cliff has allowed the last 10 threads, some went straight to the trashcan due to bad nature, so maybe a "clean" one w/o the bride/whore comments would survive in the GFC?
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mptighe
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JUN 13, 06:36 PM
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Good luck with it, after seeing Cliff's response, I have a very different opinion of him now. I honestly don't think he cares what Loyde does. He thinks this only affects .01% of the forum so it's not something he's going to deal with, and the maturity level of certain people will keep surfacing so I think this is bound to repeat itself indefinitely. As I said, I'll be happy to help anyone in any way I can, even if it's just to help people coordinate a way to recover what they've lost.
*Edit* At this point Will and anyone else that has not received their property back should file a report for their property being stolen. Technically at this point he has held their property against their wishes and that is a form of theft. If the local police department doesn't act on a stolen auto/property report, then they themselves can have charges pressed against them with the county/state officials. There is always a way guys.[This message has been edited by mptighe (edited 06-13-2010).]
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