END OF KIT CARS? (Page 45/60)
madcurl OCT 23, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by 85sliverGT:


Do you read the posts that you reply to? At all??

You seem to have all the answers to the questions that were never asked



Simply put I have Northstar engine swaps created by Kevin At design one system. Kevin's goal was never to Create a longitudinal mounted engine but rather the transversely mounted engine thus the application is for all those who are Fiero enthusiast. Granted a replica owner could put a transversely mounted engine into the replica but it wouldn't be following the true application Would it.
dratts OCT 23, 09:09 PM
I mounted mine transversely and many of the guys on the forums do. Some of the builders strive for an exact replica and others just build what THEY want. I'm one of the others. I didn't build my car for anyone else. I have Lambo badges on it and I own two N* Fieros. One turbocharged and one with an AD355 rebody. I don't plan on badging the 355. Badges don't matter and 100% correct doesn't either. I know that that concept will never be conceivable to you, but it is what it is.
madcurl OCT 23, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by ferrobi:


It doesn't but to Sadcurl it does and always will. Remember he is the "Almighty 1" - Perfection at its finest - a fine honed tool.



Wow! You used the word, "Almighty." Dude, all jokes aside, I wouldn't used that word when referring to humans.
ferrobi OCT 24, 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by madcurl:


Wow! You used the word, "Almighty." Dude, all jokes aside, I wouldn't used that word when referring to humans.



Your HUMAN? That's news to me but thanks for pointing that out - note taken A - hole
Fiero84Freak OCT 24, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by madcurl:
Amazing all the money you dumped into your fake replica And it looked nothing like the real car



Uhhhh..... I'm pretty sure ferrobi didn't "dump" a lot of money into his car. Remember for the most part it was already finished, so most of what ferrobi did was ironing out details like the interior and other things. Not that those type things aren't expensive. I know about the range of what Amida's interiors go for, and I'm fairly sure ferrobi paid a little bit more considering all the F40-style specific work that went on (I think even Amida showed up to help install). I would imagine if he tried to sell his FERRARI F40 REPLICA he would likely not be hurting all that much money. There's a market for that type car and people will buy it, even if he were to drive that car for five years straight or so. He could still sell high.

Your wild creations on the other hand, have a very niche' market to even attempt to sell to. I can pretty much guess a general ideal of what type of funding was put into each of your cars, and I have to say it's rather sad, since at the end of the day the title still reads "198X Pontiac Fiero". If you were - for whatever reason - make an attempt to sell I can guarantee you those chops are going to get nowhere near what you put into them. Nowhere near. I can imagine the type of price you would likely have to put on them, and I can tell you now everyone would think you're on something.

And you know - I have to say I find it incredibly ironic that you are posting about ferrobi's car. I distinctively remember you having quite a few posts early on in his construction thread... and I don't seem to remember any negativity towards him... ...

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ferrobi OCT 24, 08:14 AM
I did pour a lot of money in the car - built the whole thing nothing was done prior to my owning it -I also got a ton of $ when I sold it the other day. Had many people contacting me about selling it for years but especially since the interior has been done. To bad according to Mr. Almighty it looked NOTHING like the real car. What an A S S
Fiero84Freak OCT 24, 10:22 AM
My sincere apologies. I was under the impression from your build thread that most of the work like the body and mounting was already performed.

Still though, I think my assertion is still correct though in that you still made a good deal of money off of the sell, when compared to what you put into the car.
Boostdreamer OCT 24, 11:21 AM
I disagree with madcurl about kits needing to be exact replicas. I'd say the majority of people who actually SELECTED AND BUILT their kit of choice cared more about the project than the ability to fool anyone. I'm sure they would have been flattered that someone mistook their car as a real whatever but I bet the owner let the truth out very soon in the conversation. I know if I was the one who put it together, I would want to say so!

I believe it is way more about being or looking different and hopefully looking nicer or cooler, etc. As a matter of fact, I usually DON'T like the kits that are the most accurate reproductions. I don't have a museum so I'm going to drive and enjoy my cars. I have zero need for rivets molded into the hood or spartan interiors. Take Archie's GT4T for example. It's a great looking car and a very close reproduction. For my taste, though, it isn't daily-driver enough. I like windows that go up and down and other creature comforts. I want to enjoy my car and I would want my passenger to enjoy the car. If it's too racecar-ish, it's not going to get used as much. Also, the nose of the GT4T is that of the early cars. I think the later cars had the nicer nose. I wouldn't think twice about changing just the nose. It wouldn't be an exact copy anymore but it would look more like what I liked.

I believe there are so many styling cues out there that scream performance, sleek, expensive, whatever your taste is. I really wish more builders had just copied the concepts created with beautiful lines. Not all cars are beautiful and not all beautiful cars have been created yet. A re-body can be beautiful as a stand-alone piece. It doesn't have to mimic something else. I think the big ingredient that is missing in most of the original designs is "the big picture". These cars often have an awesome grill, a cool wing, beautiful doors but rarely do they look like they belong together on the same car.

Kits don't have to be exact replicas and they don't have to be over the top. They only have to be appealing to the buyer and builder. We don't have to covet these kits to prove they have value. If we open our eyes, we will see that someone had a vision and they went for it. Sometimes more successfully than others but they put their hands on their cars and they took a journey. Bravo to them!

It's kinda like seeing a fat person out walking or riding a bike. Your first thought might be, "you sure got a lot more walking to do!", but at least they are out there and not sitting at home in front of a TV. They are making an effort. At least support people in their efforts if not in their projects or their finished products.

Jonathan

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Bloozberry OCT 24, 11:37 AM
Well said Boostdreamer.
GADJet OCT 24, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

Well said Boostdreamer.



Agreed! +1