Originally posted by seafoodlover: That is one bad ass Diablo!! Very sleek, great job. Thumbs way up!!
Thanks! Im hoping its going to be even better after I fix some of the areas that Im not 100% happy with....
Bloozberry
OCT 21, 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by madcurl: What type of Fieros are supporting the majority of the Fiero venders today?
Do you know something we don't? Please, spill the beans.
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Originally posted by madcurl: At Fiero shows what are the types of cars represented there, replicas or modified Fieros?
You find what you look for. If you go to a Fiero show, you'll find Fieros. If you go to a kit car show you'll find kit cars. Just because you don't see kit cars at the shows you go to doesn't mean that they're not driving the industry, nor that they weren't the leading impetus for the modifications that are available today.
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Originally posted by madcurl:Giving that a large majority of replicants have a duke or the 2.8 engine in the back isn't a major chunk of pocket money for kit kar companies.
First, it's hard to understand what your point is when you don't form complete sentences. Second, on what facts do you base your statement that most replicas have a duke or 2.8 engine in them? Just because that's the only type of kit car you ever post pictures of doesn't make it the truth.
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Originally posted by madcurl: If anything the replica companies are only supporting the fiberglass industry and maybe suspensions...
The trouble with this statement is that it's very myopic. Replica companies go back further than the last ten years. Perhaps you are suggesting that modern day replica companies should somehow share their profits with the "Fiero Industry"? Perhaps you're suggesting that companies that produced and sold replicas in the past like V8 Archie only supported the fiberglass industry? Or how about Ryanne/Held that developed longitudinal engine cradles, wide track suspensions, and big brake kits driven exclusively by the replica market? One thing is for sure, it sounds like you're saying that their contributions to your "Modified Fiero" class was meaningless.
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Originally posted by madcurl: ...but still the majority of Fiero owners make up the bulk of the suspension upgrades, engine swaps, and brakes.
The confidence in which you make your statements doesn't make them any more factual. Please, tell us how you know this. Even if it were the case, it would be foolish to think that the class of cars that you like to refer to as "Modified Fieros" (which excludes replicas and kit cars) was the impetus behind the development of most of the improvements you buy off the shelf today.
After listening to all your denigrating comments about replicas and the kitcar industry for over the past three years in this thread, it must be a bitter pill to swallow when the man who designed most of the important changes to your car, of which you are so proud, implies you wouldn't even have it if it weren't for the industry you despise so much.
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Originally posted by Archie: If it wasn't for the products, methods & vendors that grew to support the Fiero based Kit car/rebody industry, many of these products, methods & vendors wouldn't be around today to support the Fiero customizations that you are seeing a lot of now-a-days. Respect your past & it will support your future.
(edited to attribute the last quote to Archie)
[This message has been edited by Bloozberry (edited 10-21-2012).]
madcurl
OCT 21, 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:
Do you know something we don't? Please, spill the beans.
You tell me. Go look at the various build threads and report back what you see.
madcurl
OCT 21, 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:
First, it's hard to understand what your point is when you don't form complete sentences. Second, on what facts do you base your statement that most replicas have a duke or 2.8 engine in them? Just because that's the only type of kit car you ever post pictures of doesn't make it the truth.
You crack me up. The cars featured on this very thread have dukes or 2.8 in the back. Now tell me. If the kit car world is so important to the very existence of the Fiero world-why on earth do they have stock dukes or 2.8 engines in the back? Is it because they gone down a path of utterly cheapness that there is no need to be a exact replica anymore? The replica builders (particually Lambo and Ferrari builders) have forgotten what they once stood for-BUILDING A EXACT REPLICA. The kit car companies have become TO MANY the, "Barney Frank" of kit cars were just about everybody can have a piece of the dream regardless of one's income.
Kinda a last minute kind of deal, the car hadnt been washed since last week. Im about to respray the car and install a new drivetrain after xmas, so I kinda wanted some images of the car before I start the make-over. I built this car from a box of parts, using three different Fieros, to painted, running & driving in less than 6 1/2 months, so everything is not as good as I would like it to be.
BTW- These images are taken with the cheapest camera/lens I own, and the images are not finished in editing yet....
Boy that is a real POS !!
Why don't you let me save you the embarrasment of driving that fugly thing around your town and send it down here to me in Florida.
I have a very strong pysche and can handle the accolades, er uh i mean the ridicule. hehehehe
jk,...beautiful ride.
seafoodlover
OCT 21, 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by diabloroadster:
Thanks! Im hoping its going to be even better after I fix some of the areas that Im not 100% happy with....
Yours is one of the best Diablo's I have seen. Must be a LOT OF FUN to drive!! I know that you must get BIG crowds where ever you go...just the facts. Hey who cares what people say it's your life. Keep up the great work!! I love your car...A LOT!!
diabloroadster
OCT 22, 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by exoticse:
Boy that is a real POS !!
Why don't you let me save you the embarrasment of driving that fugly thing around your town and send it down here to me in Florida.
I have a very strong pysche and can handle the accolades, er uh i mean the ridicule. hehehehe
jk,...beautiful ride.
I was kinda using the POS reference to maybe sway Madcurl into thinking not all replica/kit cars are all POS. I think what Madcurl is missing is- its about personal pride and not so much skill level or the quailty of the end results for alot of people in the car hobby. And in the case of kits and replicas hobbist alot are like me, we are the kind that would much rather say "I" built this myself. Its about not going into a Lamborghini dealership and purchasing a $300k car or paying someone to do everything or most of everything to build the car for you.
Im not trying to come off as bragging but my pride comes from knowing I did everything myself from start to finish on my Diablo except the front end alignment and sew up the upholstey. I tore apart 3 Fieros down to frames, streched one, took a major POS Diablo kit and pieced it together, built my own motor, my own transmission, did my own suspension work, did my own body work, painted it myself, installed the glass, took out every last piece of Fiero wiring and rewired the whole thing- myself....... I didnt pay this guy to this and that guy to that- the success's and failures of this build are all on me.
And when I drive anywhere, and I mean anywhere in that car, it stops traffic.... The car is like a rock star, I cant go anywhere with out people taking photos and causing a fuss. It makes me feel good knowing that the car I built might just made someones day a little better (if only for a couple minutes) just by seeing their smiles and reactions. I know I wouldnt feel the same if I was driving a nice car that someone else built, even if my Diablo came out looking like a real POS I would still have pride in it.
Just because someones skilll level or economic status or even their personal taste maybe at a level so they cant have the best looking replica/kit its still something they may be proud of. And thats no reason to bash someone else's kit/replica. For every one less than perfect kit/replica project out there, I bet I could come up with two really less than perfect custom Fieros. Im sure Madcurl is proud of his custom Fiero, but Im sure I could come up a whole list of things I personally dont like about it. But its his and not mine and I see no need in posting up and bashing his car when he has obviously invested alot of his time and his money into.
And the second part of my little rant is- You would really be suprised to know how few people out there really can spot replicas againt the real thing even when theyre not done to super standards. Yes here, and other replica/ kit sites you will find people who can spot a good replica from a mile away, but on the streets in normal town USA, majority of folks can not. I pulled up to get gas one day and had a guy come up to me and go on to tell me how much he loved Lamborghini's, seen them all the time in France he used to live. He told me I had the best looking and sounding Diablo he has ever seen/heard..... Sadly I told him it was a kit and that sound he thought was so great was a SBC attached to a Fiero transmission... So away from certin interweb sites, and die hard super car fans, most people have never even seen a real Lamborghini.....
So go find a old $100 Fiero and find some old abandoned kit/replica in the back yard of someones house and build your dream car......
madcurl
OCT 22, 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by Bloozberry: After listening to all your denigrating comments about replicas and the kitcar industry for over the past three years in this thread, it must be a bitter pill to swallow when the man who designed most of the important changes to your car, of which you are so proud, implies you wouldn't even have it if it weren't for the industry you despise so much.
Correction, that's comments regarding piss-poor replicas that are posted here in this thread, but I digress. What pill is that I need to swallow? What parts from #020 is actually a benefactor of the kit car builders?
madcurl
OCT 22, 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by diabloroadster: So go find a old $100 Fiero and find some old abandoned kit/replica in the back yard of someones house and build your dream car......
And don't forget to put this engine cover in the back.
jb1
OCT 22, 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by madcurl:
Too funny. The dealer said, "This a 200 mile per hour car. This is not a kit car or poser."-3:30
You know things have gone bad when a used car saleman tells it like it is.
Wonder if the Cobra beside it in beginning is a kit????
