Too funny. The dealer said, "This a 200 mile per hour car. This is not a kit car or poser."-3:30
You know things have gone bad when a used car saleman tells it like it is.
I FAR I
OCT 20, 11:56 PM
Yea, too funny Curly....Not sure how you would be embarrassed to drive in a car that looks great regardless of it's originality and it's particularly humorous to know that a potential buyer must be reminded that the $300k car he is interested in - is in fact real - REAL expensive that is!
Here it is, 25 years after Pontiac decided to sell Meras based on Ferrari 308 body styling and kit cars still haven't died - they've multiplied! So cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it Curly!
Get with the program guy, because at least when someone builds, buys, or drives a replica, they have made an economic decision based on passion and practicality. If you weren't such an insufferable trolling instigator and confounded slave to badging and authenticity, you'd have been able to realise that not all kits are a bad thing. So you keep driving your piece of **** car and I'll keep driving mine.
I'm impressed with the effort that goes into making something like this, because at the end of the day some people will have cars worth far more than the sum of their parts and appear 10x - 20x more valuable than they actually are, while others will have cars that may be quite expensive, but in actuality are not really worth it.
And you wanna know what's really "too funny" Curly? Those 'kit' cars will always be far more desirable than yours!
LMAO
[This message has been edited by I FAR I (edited 10-21-2012).]
Kinda a last minute kind of deal, the car hadnt been washed since last week. Im about to respray the car and install a new drivetrain after xmas, so I kinda wanted some images of the car before I start the make-over. I built this car from a box of parts, using three different Fieros, to painted, running & driving in less than 6 1/2 months, so everything is not as good as I would like it to be.
BTW- These images are taken with the cheapest camera/lens I own, and the images are not finished in editing yet....
Tony Kania
OCT 21, 11:35 AM
Let's see, quoted Dr. Phil, and a car salesman on the same page?
Whatever you are rolling in, own it!
Tony
Archie
OCT 21, 12:21 PM
Back in the day, almost all Kit Cars or replicas were built on the VW chassis.
When the Fiero came along, it quickly replaced the VW as the popular chassis for reboding.
The kir car rebody industry is what carried the popularity of the Fiero chassis into this Century.
The kit car/ rebody industry, is what drew in people who would develop a lot of the aftermarket parts for our Fiero chassis'
IMHO, the kit car/ rebody industry, is the primary reason that the Fiero chassis & the industry supporting it has lasted thru the last 20 years.
IMHO, without the Kit Car/ rebody industry, the Fiero chassis today would be about as popular as the Chevette is today.
If you all don't mind, let me give you an example.
In these days a lot of people are down on labor unions. People & media & politicians Hate on Labor Unions.
What a lot of people fail to understand is that, even if they've never belonged to a Union, they benefit everyday from the things the organized labor movement has worked on.
Think about it for a minute, if it wasn't for Unions......
There would be no standardized 40 hour work week. No overtime for more than 40 hours. No child labor laws No paid Holidays No paid vacations No laws protecting workers rights & health No company supplied health care And many more benefits that even non-union employees benefit from today.
None of these benefits were given to workers by the employers out of the generosity of their hearts. Each benefit was brought about by the pressure put on, to make life better, by Unions.
.........Now.......
The same thing goes for the Fiero based Kit car/rebody industry.
If it wasn't for the products, methods & vendors that grew to support the Fiero based Kit car/rebody industry, many of these products, methods & vendors wouldn't be around today to support the Fiero customizations that you are seeing a lot of now-a-days.
Respect your past & it will support your future.
That's what I got to say.
Thanks
Archie
[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 10-21-2012).]
Kinda a last minute kind of deal, the car hadnt been washed since last week. Im about to respray the car and install a new drivetrain after xmas, so I kinda wanted some images of the car before I start the make-over. I built this car from a box of parts, using three different Fieros, to painted, running & driving in less than 6 1/2 months, so everything is not as good as I would like it to be.
BTW- These images are taken with the cheapest camera/lens I own, and the images are not finished in editing yet....
That is one bad ass Diablo!! Very sleek, great job. Thumbs way up!!
ferrobi
OCT 21, 02:12 PM
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
Back in the day, almost all Kit Cars or replicas were built on the VW chassis.
When the Fiero came along, it quickly replaced the VW as the popular chassis for reboding.
The kir car rebody industry is what carried the popularity of the Fiero chassis into this Century.
The kit car/ rebody industry, is what drew in people who would develop a lot of the aftermarket parts for our Fiero chassis'
IMHO, the kit car/ rebody industry, is the primary reason that the Fiero chassis & the industry supporting it has lasted thru the last 20 years.
IMHO, without the Kit Car/ rebody industry, the Fiero chassis today would be about as popular as the Chevette is today.
If you all don't mind, let me give you an example.
In these days a lot of people are down on labor unions. People & media & politicians Hate on Labor Unions.
What a lot of people fail to understand is that, even if they've never belonged to a Union, they benefit everyday from the things the organized labor movement has worked on.
Think about it for a minute, if it wasn't for Unions......
There would be no standardized 40 hour work week. No overtime for more than 40 hours. No child labor laws No paid Holidays No paid vacations No laws protecting workers rights & health No company supplied health care And many more benefits that even non-union employees benefit from today.
None of these benefits were given to workers by the employers out of the generosity of their hearts. Each benefit was brought about by the pressure put on, to make life better, by Unions.
.........Now.......
The same thing goes for the Fiero based Kit car/rebody industry.
If it wasn't for the products, methods & vendors that grew to support the Fiero based Kit car/rebody industry, many of these products, methods & vendors wouldn't be around today to support the Fiero customizations that you are seeing a lot of now-a-days.
Respect your past & it will support your future.
That's what I got to say.
Thanks
Archie
Finally someone has hit the nail on the head - I agree totally that without the kit/replica industry the fiero and the nice aftermarket parts that are available would probably not exist as strongly as it does still today. Though as of tomorrow I will be without a fiero of any kind in almost 20 years I have great admiration for the fiero in any state rebodied, modified, or stock.
Rob
Bloozberry
OCT 21, 04:08 PM
quote
Originally posted by Archie: The [kit] car rebody industry is what carried the popularity of the Fiero chassis into this Century. The kit car/ rebody industry, is what drew in people who would develop a lot of the aftermarket parts for our Fiero chassis' If it wasn't for the products, methods & vendors that grew to support the Fiero based Kit car/rebody industry, many of these products, methods & vendors wouldn't be around today to support the Fiero customizations that you are seeing a lot of now-a-days. Respect your past & it will support your future.
How incredibly surprising and ironic to see the mastermind behind 2/3's of #20's design (wide body, chop top, V8) take the wind out of Madcurl's sails. Bravo Archie.
slicknick
OCT 21, 04:27 PM
quote
Originally posted by Archie:
IMHO, the kit car/ rebody industry, is the primary reason that the Fiero chassis & the industry supporting it has lasted thru the last 20 years.
IMHO, without the Kit Car/ rebody industry, the Fiero chassis today would be about as popular as the Chevette is today.
I don't buy that.
We all know that the Fiero is a grab bag of GM parts, so chassis equipment would've always been available. I'd say without kits and whatnot, the Fiero would be a niche car like the Reatta is today. A nice car to see every once in a while that mostly flies under the radar, but definitely supported by off the shelf parts (except those weird Reatta masters). It's unique enough to hold its own, unlike most of the other GM cars form the 80's.
Other than chassis stuff, what does the stock Fiero crowd benefit from kit crowd? Certainly not stock body parts, or equipment that one would use on a restoration. So places like the Fiero store would have performed just was well without the kit car scene. Engine swaps would have happened regardless, they do them in J bodies, they do them in A bodies, they'd have done them in P cars.
Other than ideas for a bunch of fiberglass hacks, I don't see the major contribution.
How incredibly surprising and ironic to see the mastermind behind 2/3's of #20's design (wide body, chop top, V8) take the wind out of Madcurl's sails. Bravo Archie.