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Back On Holiday JUN 16, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by WhiteDevil88:
"flushed into the septic tank".



isn't that what RFT is nicknamed?
lurker JUN 16, 11:00 PM
hey, i know! it's been a slow week over at RFT, how about we take this discussion over there?
fierobear JUN 16, 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by hugh:
about someone I consider a friend,I owe it to my friend



Then you should choose your friends more carefully. The rest of what you wrote is BS.
WhiteDevil88 JUN 17, 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by fierobear:

That's a great move, Jeff. You got the content of that PM either yourself or someone else using a STOLEN PASSWORD to access my PMs. And YOU have the GALL to talk to me about lies? I made a SUGGESTION to Cliff. He can do any damned thing he wants. He chose to ban you. Quit being a goddamn baby. You got banned because of YOUR actions, numbnuts. You can't take responsibility for your own actions, and you call ME bullshit names? Geez.



I own every bit of my actions. You have no idea what that means. Someday someone may have to teach you.
madcurl JUN 17, 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by hugh:

Madcurl,If you call it the way you see it,maybe you should get your eyes checked.As I stated before,Jeff did no more than defend himself.You are guilty of what you accuse Jeff. Also check the meaning of the word"insurgent".




Yeah I know it's meaning but for sake of a few who love drama:

An insurgency, or insurrection, is an armed uprising, or revolt against an established civil or political authority. Persons engaging in insurgency are called insurgents, and typically engage in regular or guerrilla combat against the armed forces of the established regime, or conduct sabotage and harassment in the land in order to undermine the government's position as leader


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Originally posted by madcurl:

Like I said, "Think Chess, not checkers." Archie laid and waited for the insurgents to strike knowing that someone would catch the bait without every viewing the motor prior to popping off a few shots. Archie then added more bait to the line, hooking more insurgents alone the way before he "pops" the news regarding the engine.

Tell me now, who looks stupid. The person who thought what he saw was the correct engine and posted a thread and insurgents who took the bait or Archie? Man thats "classic baiting 101."



As I've said, my use of the word "insurgent" was in reference to those who attacted Archie. IMO I think it's applys here. That's why the original thread was started in the first place. If your bashing Archie for dyn'ing his own car...that's plan stupid. As for cross-references, neither have those who critizes Archie engine swap haven't applied those same tactics to others on the forum with 3800SC pushing 400+ HP.

I'm farely new on this forum and I've witnessed similar actions that paralle the true meaning of an insurgent:


Insurgency: In 2003 Cliff Pennock Cleans in-house of insurgency. What was the insurgency? Flame throwers jumping in and out of threads with the sole purpose of causing revolt among the Pennock group. They "questioned" Cliff authority in whats right and whats wrong. They (insurgent) continued their guerrilla combat by re-enlisting as "newbees" just for the sole purpose of causing uprising here on Pennocks. They continue to "Harass" Pennocks members. Oh lets us not forget, Sabotage....remember those dirty pictures that were plastered all on the forum.

The first thread were I experience the "thread killers" on the "What Up at Archie's thread." The original points have been removed but, notice what Archie says to fight them off of his thread:


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Originally posted by Archie:


Well, I'm glad you got that off your chest and I hope you feel better.

Now I'll give you my angle on this.

#1 I've taken a lot of crop from certain people in this group. I'll return it in kind, they Reap what they Sow.

#2 When it gets to the point where I have to k1ss everyone's behind just because "I'm in business" then I'll just open a Dairy Queen. If a guy acts like a jerk, I'm gonna treat him like a jerk.

#3 Some of these guys don't have any info in their profiles, they want respect, they want their word to mean something but they want to hide behind the Keyboard. I'm out in the open, everyone knows where I work & live. They have my phone numbers and I'm operating right out here in the open with nothing to hide. NO ONE on this Forum is more accessible that I am. That makes me an easy target for some punk that wants to make a name for himself.

#4 What you see is what you get. I am probably a nicer guy in person. I don't lie to people and I've never screwed anyone. I won't call someone a liar until I'm 100% sure (99.9% isn't good enough), but once you've lied to me or screwed me, you'll never be forgiven.

#5 The beauty of what I do is that I don't have to deal with jerks. If a potential customer comes off as being a jerk, I make sure I'm too busy to do a swap for him. Life is too short to deal with jerks. I know a good businessman would do business even with the jerks. I'm sure I'm not a good businessman, if I was I'd own a Dairy Queen.

This thread is about What's up at Archie's, if you don't want to know then change the channel.

So if you don't mind I'll take my thread back.

So......What's up at Archie's?

How about Jim's car.....

Archie





When this original thread was started, wasn't it to bash Archie or to make fun of his V8 customers?
I accused Jeff? Those words are not my words but his from this forum. All I did was to post what he said from the O/T section.



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Originally posted by Fastback 86:

This has been irritating the hell out of me lately, so I decided to make it easy for everyone. Lately, in any discussion of serious topics here in O/T, I've been appaled by the incessant and blatent use of logical fallacies to "prove" a point.

fal•la•cy Pronunciation (fl-s)
n. pl. fal•la•cies
1. A false notion.
2. A statement or an argument based on a false or invalid inference.
3. Incorrectness of reasoning or belief; erroneousness.
4. The quality of being deceptive.

Definition 2 is the most applicable in this case. A logical fallacy does not help your argument at all. Quite to the contrary, it shows everyone that you couldn't develope a real, cogent and supported rebuttal, and beyond that, you couldn't have the good grace to conceed a point, so you resorted to a fallacy. Do yourself, and any one attempting to have an adult conversation with you a favor and consult the link posted below before you go off half-cocked on an argument with no merit. It'll save a lot of the flamming and tangential arguing in a lot of threads. You'll be doing everyone favor, and relieving my headache, however temporarily.

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/

Thank you.



edit:Its late and I can't spell

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 06-17-2007).]

WhiteDevil88 JUN 17, 01:39 AM
I know all us white guys look alike, but that's Scott Evans. I'm Jeff Stillwell.
hugh JUN 17, 08:41 AM
Madcurl,Neither you nor Archie are my leader.If you are going to define words like insurgent use the whole definition.
[n] a person who takes part in an armed rebellion against the constituted authosrity (especially in the hope of improving conditions).
That word is used in the wrong context.Since you and Archie are neither leaders on this board or have any authority over any of it's members you used the wrong wording.Maybe you perceive yourself to be a leader on this board.WRONG !! I truely hope you don't leave this board,you do usually make contributions to make this a better place.
Fierobear,I only write what I perceive to be the truth.You will never be my friend because I already choose my friends carefully,
Jeff,that was not called for.
WhiteDevil88 JUN 17, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by hugh:
Jeff,that was not called for.



Probably not, but the paint is getting worn off my buttons from them being pushed. I'm not always going to react with grace and class.I wish I could.
madcurl JUN 17, 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by hugh:

Madcurl,Neither you nor Archie are my leader.If you are going to define words like insurgent use the whole definition.
[n] a person who takes part in an armed rebellion against the constituted authosrity (especially in the hope of improving conditions).
That word is used in the wrong context.Since you and Archie are neither leaders on this board or have any authority over any of it's members you used the wrong wording.Maybe you perceive yourself to be a leader on this board.WRONG !! I truely hope you don't leave this board,you do usually make contributions to make this a better place.




I'm only quoting it from here and only to those who follow from a "internet stand point":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgent Their "tactic & stategies that mimick the real life insurgents...gotta love the drama.


As for Archie being a "leader" over you or anybody here, I've made no such comments so “why” should you make such a comment? As for me being any type of leader is ridicules, I’ve made no such claims nor do I seek such a claim. I follow my own “pipe dreams” and I let the venders have at it. A “person” would be a fool to even think I was such a leader. However, if you should decide to attack my venders, I’ll attack you with every word that fit or parallel their actions here on the Internet. If you’re being “Tripped” by use the word, “Insurgent,” …get over it. It’s only applied to those who think it involves them. Hello, Dr. Phil somebody is in my head???

I’m I biased? No. I have a Northstar...hello. So I'm defending a company that I do not have thier engine swap...hello Dr. Phil. I have just about every vender’s parts in all of my cars- West Coast Fieros, D1S, Mr. Mikes, Norms, Pisa, Doug & Sage (Fiero Warehouse), VDI, and finally V8Archies. However, do you see me bad mouthing any of these venders relentlessly as some Internet “insurgents” do here?

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 06-17-2007).]

hugh JUN 17, 03:05 PM
Madcurl,when you use the word insurgent to describe someone who disagrees with you,you are in effect saying you hold some sway over them.That you are above them.That may not be,no,was not your intention.But none the less that was the interpretation that was made by me and probably many others.Jeff has had to defend himself against those that accuse him of everything except starting the mideast war. If it is your position that Archie has been attacked go back and read from the beginning,I didn't take it that way.Let me reinterate,I hope you don't leave this board.When we are not argueing I'd like to have you on my side!