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84Bill
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NOV 13, 11:00 PM
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If they offer a service to mow your lawn the should not refuse to mow mine just because I'm (insert minotity here)
| quote | Originally posted by jstricker:
And you say that one of these rights is to be able to force someone that doesn't want to work for them to mow their lawn??
I don't think so.
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You are EXTREEMLY dense John..
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Patrick's Dad
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NOV 13, 11:01 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill:
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IN FACT is says there is to be a SEPARATION between CHURCH and STATE.. 
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Bill, can you highlight this?
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84Bill
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NOV 13, 11:03 PM
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That was not what this country FOUNDED its INDEPENDANCE on. Remember.. we broke from England? Hellooooo Rip? yeah.. Sleeping huh... Oh yeah.. it been several centuries.... :::thudd:::: Rip??
| quote | Originally posted by texasfiero:
I stand by what I said. Why did they leave The Church of England? They wanted to freely express their Bible based beliefs, which they were not able to in England. The founding documents are an eloquent expression of that desire for freedom and equality.
Why is it called "The King James" version. He had the bible translated so he could read it and bend it to his own perversion. He married the church to government for his own justification.
Why did Martin Luther nail his proclamation to the door of the church? He knew God had a plan and the neither the church or the government were fulfilling it.
"Martin Luther dealt the symbolic blow that began the Reformation when he nailed his Ninety-Five Theses to the door of the Wittenberg Church. That document contained an attack on papal abuses and the sale of indulgences by church officials." http://www.educ.msu.edu/homepages/laurence/reformation/Luther/Luther.htm
I didn't say Christians get it perfect. I SAID we try. Believers, more than ANYONE else understand the domination of government over church. Whether it was Cesar or King James, we understand it and are determined that it won't happen here. Is the Supreme Court so convinced?
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84Bill
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NOV 13, 11:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick's Dad:
Bill, can you highlight this? |
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Yes I can....
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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You can exercise it all you want but DO NOT make laws based on your religious values.
Alcohol controls
Abortion
Gun Control
Vulgarity or Cencorship
Anti Drug laws
Prostitution
On and on and on
ALL
Are Christian moral battlefronts.. ALL are in contention with CIVIL LIBERTIES[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 11-13-2006).]
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texasfiero
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NOV 13, 11:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill:
If they offer a service to mow your lawn the should not refuse to mow mine just because I'm (insert minotity here)
You are EXTREEMLY dense John.. |
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Bill, you can't equate 'choice' with 'race'. They are not the same.
We are equal, regardless of race.
Race, you are born with.
Rights make you equal.
Rights don't come as a choice.
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84Bill
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NOV 13, 11:12 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by texasfiero:
Bill, you can't equate 'choice' with 'race'. They are not the same.
We are equal, regardless of race.
Race, you are born with.
Rights make you equal.
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Gays are a MINORITY
Minority
Show Spelled Pronunciation[mi-nawr-i-tee, -nor, -mahy-]ciation noun, plural -ties, adjective
¡Vnoun
1. the smaller part or number; a number, part, or amount forming less than half of the whole.
2. a smaller party or group opposed to a majority, as in voting or other action.
3. a group differing, esp. in race, religion, or ethnic background, from the majority of a population: legislation aimed at providing equal rights for minorities.
4. a member of such a group.
5. the state or period of being under the legal age of full responsibility.
¡Vadjective 6. of or pertaining to a minority.
I myself AM a minority
You are a minority[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 11-13-2006).]
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Patrick's Dad
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NOV 13, 11:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill:
You can exercise it all you want but DO NOT make laws based on your religious values.
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I think that you have it backwards. Congress (the law) cannot make laws respecting religion, but there is no provision for religion informing the law.
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Phranc
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NOV 13, 11:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick's Dad:
I think that you have it backwards. Congress (the law) cannot make laws respecting religion, but there is no provision for religion informing the law. |
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So institutional bigotry and discrimination is okay as long as its religion based. Forget the fact that you want to impose your religion on others by creating laws that treat them as second class citizens.
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jstricker
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NOV 13, 11:18 PM
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No, I'm not, Bill.
You are using this as justification that the owners MUST mow the lawn (or do whatever landscaping). There is no such thing stated or implied in the Constitution.
The elevating of choices, wants, and desires to the status of RIGHTS will be the ultimate ruin of our Republic.
John Stricker
| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill:
If they offer a service to mow your lawn the should not refuse to mow mine just because I'm (insert minotity here)
You are EXTREEMLY dense John.. |
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84Bill
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NOV 13, 11:21 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick's Dad:
I think that you have it backwards. Congress (the law) cannot make laws respecting religion, but there is no provision for religion informing the law. |
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Wrong
By enforcing laws it is becoming more and more apparent what religion is being established by congress and the government and is in violation with the FIRST AMENDMENT prohibiting the formation of a religious establisment.
I can call you a jackass right up front or I can do it in so many words..
Alcohol controls
Abortion
Gun Control
Vulgarity or Cencorship
Anti Drug laws
Prostitution
On and on and on
ALL
Are Christian moral battlefronts.. ALL are in contention with CIVIL LIBERTIES
Looks like a Jackass to me.
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