How much would you SELL this '87 Fiero GT (5-sp) for? (Page 4/9)
MidEngineManiac MAY 23, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by uhlanstan:


..Fiero drivers are cheap,cheap,, the chinese & japs workers love us!!




US ???

Cheap ??

Nnnnoooooooooo.........

jstricker MAY 23, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by GS Jon:

Thanks for everyone's responses. I do appreciate the input, and I am not upset with the #'s being tossed around unlike what John Stricker wants to believe.

Unlike some folk will do, I was not trying to hide what was wrong with the car. I was giving the information freely so people could make an honest assessment of the vehicle. I feel that if I hadn't disclosed what was wrong with it, the #'s would be artificially inflated as to the car's value. If I had someone tell me honestly what all was wrong with this car in the first place, I wouldn't have bought it. It didn't run, when it did it would stall, suspension was shot, brakes were bad, etc etc etc. Nightmare car. Now it's a nice running car I'd take anywhere.

Fortunately for me, the used auto market here in San Antonio is inflated, with car prices on the high side. Vehicles sell for more than they would in most other markets. Don't know why, but that's the way it is out here. Also, the economy is doing quite well with lower than average unemployment #'s (IIRC, about 7.4% or so). Fieros are quite rarely seen out here, so there's another bonus. Case in point: Craigslist link for Fieros in SATX

I think I'll probably put the car up for $3500, and wait for the right buyer to come along. I'm not dying for cash at the moment, and have enough cash in the bank to deal with a worst-case scenario to keep me from selling this car for too little.

In the meantime I can enjoy driving it around, as it's a great driver and lots of fun to putt around in. I think I'll probably take it down to the local car show with a For Sale sign in the window and see if a bored retired guy wants to spend some cash on a car that's got all the hard stuff taken care of already. Until then, I can slowly install the misc parts that are lying around to make it a better looking car. Carpet, interior trim etc.

Heck, I'm also selling my '98 Regal GS, maybe I can sell them together as a bundle deal for $5k and a Fiero guy can have two running cars, and a complete donor car for an L67 swap when they want to go for it.

EDIT: Added Craigslist link.




I was going to just let this go and let you live in your world until you called me out by name. Fine, Jon, you want to make this personal, how about some personal, honest opinions on your car?

In my first post I wrote:

If you can get $5,000 for it that would be a great price and at this time, I'll be very surprised if you can get that.

In my second post I wrote:

You'll be doing very well if you get $5K for it, probably more realistically, 1/2 that

In my third post I wrote:

If you find someone that's in love with it you MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT get up to $5K for it but realistically you can expect 1/2 or less than that. That's what the market is.

In every post I answered your question. You didn't put in the header "everyone but John Stricker should give me their opinion" although from now on you can rest assured that's what I'll assume you mean.

Then you wrote " I do appreciate the input, and I am not upset with the #'s being tossed around unlike what John Stricker wants to believe."

and later go on to say:

"Fortunately for me, the used auto market here in San Antonio is inflated, with car prices on the high side. Vehicles sell for more than they would in most other markets. Don't know why, but that's the way it is out here" and post a link to Craigslist.

If you know the market there so well what in God's name did you come on here asking for opinions for? It's your car, set a price you'll sell it for and put it on the market. Or don't. I don't give a crap one way or the other. I'm not going to buy it, I have plenty of cars here that I can rebuild if I want and they didn't cost me more the $500. Yes, yours runs and is worth more than that, I told you that myself, but if I'm buying a project I'd just as soon it NOT run so when I fix it I know what's been fixed.

Your first post gave everyone reading YOUR THREAD the impression your wife was forcing, or at least pushing hard, for you to sell the car. If that's not what the issue was then that's great, but don't jump all up my butt because you can't convey the thought you were tyring to convey. I wasn't the only person that read your post that way. In every one of my posts I tried to give you helpful information. So did a lot of other members and your response varied including being insulting to me and telling CoryFiero "I have that much wrapped up in the brakes and suspension." Who cares what you have in it? That's irrelevant. You'll be lucky to get that back unless you do a lot of the fixing up on the car.

Your first post in your negatives you wrote:

-DIYstu dew wipe full set w/extra felt
-Rodney Dickman window helpers, two sets
-New lock set, power lock solenoid
-AC accumulator, oriface tube and accessory belt (will include several cans of R-134a and oil)
-Good OEM interior carpet
-Poly swaybar endlinks and Moog bracket bushings

Put the dew wipes on. Put the window helpers on. Put in the locks. Fix the A/C. Install the carpet. Put the rest of the suspension parts on. Do you think someone else is going to figure they can or should do all of that for free? Your 3800 parts are worth something only to someone that wants a 3800. That's not everyone. Some might want a SBC. Some might want a Northstar. Some might want a 4.9L Caddy. Some might even want an Ecotech. Including them you have offered more value but only to a limited number of buyers, for other buyers all of those parts are junk and don't add $1 value to the car.

You then go on and say:

-AC inop (parts on-hand)
-Needs stereo installed, old headunit on hand but unknown if it's functioning, or status of speakers
-Windshield cracked but passes safety inspection (not in driver's normal view), also needs windshield surround trim
-Sunroof leaks (car washes are recommended if you need a bath, LOL)
-No headliner backing board
-Seats in poor condition, but rebuildable with Mr. Mikes covers and padding
-Rust-through in corner of trunk, should be patchable
-No trunk carpet
-Inop cruise control (components in place, but unknown status)
-Needs passenger's side interior door panel installed (parts on-hand)
-Needs interior trim/sunvisors installed (parts on-hand)
-Needs passenger side door lock/solenoid installed (parts on-hand)
-Power window switches are iffy, need replacement
-Washer fluid nozzle, one line must have fallen off (will probably have this fixed before car is sold)
-Engine was replaced by PO, donor engine was from auto-equipped Fiero, some spare wires in the engine bay I haven't ID'd yet

So now we find that the interior is not at all nice. Door panels need replaced, seats are "rebuildable" (If you want to spend another $500), it doesn't have a radio, the sunvisors aren't good, there's no trunk carpet and it's showing rust through.

Looking at the pictures the body is actually something that wouldn't be rated as "average" by a used car dealer. The side moldings are missing on both sides. The dew wipes are cracked. Can't tell, but with the dew wipes cracked I'll be the side windows are scratched. The antenna is missing. The nose has at least cosmetic damage in at least 4 places I can see, and I can assure you I can find more if I look at it in person. The windshield is cracked. If you have insurance you might be able to get it replaced but to a new owner it just dropped the value of the car $250.

You may or may not get $3500 for the car. Frankly, I'll be surprised if you get half that but I really do hope I'm wrong. There is nothing special about your car other than it's yours. That's not my fault. It's not my fault you want/need to sell it and you don't really wish to do that (otherwise why the sad face on the first post header?). You can call me whatever names you like and think I'm being a PITA, I don't really care one way or the other, but I've not said one thing in your thread that wasn't honest and trying to be helpful.

Do with it what you will.

John Stricker
cliffw MAY 23, 01:40 PM
Jon, remember my 87GT which I sold for $2,500.00 ?
GS Jon MAY 23, 02:02 PM
John, I just think you have a hardon for the fact that I used the word "demand" and then actually stuck up for my wife instead of bowing down and sucking your e-peen. If you're married, you give off the aura of an individual who talks big on the internet, but is apologetic and subservient to your wife. Telling me to tell my wife to "Stuff it" is amazingly stupid on your part, and if you're wondering why this thread is hostile it's because you seem to have a complete lack of respect for the sanctity of other people's relationships. Get off your high horse and deal with the fact that I'm going to resent you for being a completely insensitive prick who thinks he knows better than I do on how to deal with my individual situation (of which you have NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON). There's a reason I haven't told you folks anything about my situation. Wanna know why that is? Because I don't want or need your misguided counsel. Especially YOU, John.

Oops, called you out by name again. Gonna cry some more? Go on. Just do it in another thread, because I'm tired of having to scroll past your longwinded tripe. In other words, you may excuse yourself from my thread at any time. Oh, and don't use the common troll tactic of saying "I can post wherever I want, meeeeeehhhh." Just leave.
jstricker MAY 23, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by GS Jon:

John, I just think you have a hardon for the fact that I used the word "demand" and then actually stuck up for my wife instead of bowing down and sucking your e-peen. If you're married, you give off the aura of an individual who talks big on the internet, but is apologetic and subservient to your wife. Telling me to tell my wife to "Stuff it" is amazingly stupid on your part, and if you're wondering why this thread is hostile it's because you seem to have a complete lack of respect for the sanctity of other people's relationships. Get off your high horse and deal with the fact that I'm going to resent you for being a completely insensitive prick who thinks he knows better than I do on how to deal with my individual situation (of which you have NO IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON). There's a reason I haven't told you folks anything about my situation. Wanna know why that is? Because I don't want or need your misguided counsel. Especially YOU, John.

Oops, called you out by name again. Gonna cry some more? Go on. Just do it in another thread, because I'm tired of having to scroll past your longwinded tripe. In other words, you may excuse yourself from my thread at any time. Oh, and don't use the common troll tactic of saying "I can post wherever I want, meeeeeehhhh." Just leave.



No, I think your post, your language, and your attitude pretty much speak for itself. Thanks for letting everyone know just who you are.

John Stricker
GS Jon MAY 23, 02:47 PM
No, your pathetic attempts to prove some sort of superiority over others is what led me to ask Cliff to move this thread to the trashcan. So good job troll, you trashed another.

I bet your momma's really proud of you!
htexans1 MAY 23, 03:03 PM
[I have no opinion about why you want to sell]

I would probably offer about 2K for it all. (and thats being generious)

I just purchased a 1997 GTP [Grand Prix] for 400 and it runs/drives real good.

I got a 1988 Formula last year, with a newly rebuilt engine --and it has t-tops (CJB). I paid 600.

Thats the problem with older pontiacs, The things are such bargains, you'll never get your money back from them

I paid in both cases what the OWNERS asked. I didnt low ball either.

[This message has been edited by htexans1 (edited 05-23-2010).]

GS Jon MAY 23, 04:03 PM
Thanks for the opinion, much appreciated.
MstangsBware MAY 23, 04:07 PM
$27.50 and I will let you drive the car to me along with haul all the parts up this way. I will take you to lunch but you will have to pay but I will drive, that is if the car I just bought from you is driveable.....;Let me know if you are interested........
GS Jon MAY 23, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by MstangsBware:

$27.50 and I will let you drive the car to me along with haul all the parts up this way. I will take you to lunch but you will have to pay but I will drive, that is if the car I just bought from you is driveable.....;Let me know if you are interested........


I just gotta laugh at this, at least you had enough common sense to use real humor to poke at me with.