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jscott1
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OCT 07, 07:19 PM
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As far as I can recall, Archie never promised any glass windows, free or otherwise...
However, back on this thread on 3/28/2004, Archie was in discussions with a glass company to have windows made. I don't know the final results of those discussions.
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20060206-1-033921-2.html
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Well, I'm glad this subject came back up to the top, I wanted to update this several weeks ago but couldn't find it.
I have contour forms, perimeter outlines etc. all done for our windows. The cost to make up a lot run of the windows is not exactly cheap & one mistake in ordering that lot run would have me sitting on 10 or 15 sets of windows that no one wants (see below for explaination of why people might find that they don't want them). So caution is important at this point. Right now I'm looking for another source for this process. Resently I did a survey of my Chop Top customers to determine if I should sell a kit for Chop Tops. Virtually all of the Chop Top customers responded that they jumped on the Chop Top idea because it was so exclusive. Most of them aren't too excited about everybody & his brother having one. You can look t the resent Lambo door threads and see a good reason for those kinds of thoughts from the Chop Top owners.So there will be no Chop Top Kits from me for now. That makes sitting on 10 or 15 sets of windows even more likely.
Everybody gets all excited about things like this when they 1st come up. But considering the investment and the potential problems, the guy who is putting up the cash has to do the research to make sure it's going to work.
I've found that this Bent glass place makes glass that is about 1/16" inch thicker than the original Fiero glass. That don't sound like much but let me try to explain what that 1/16" means. Let me try to explain what that 1/16" means and why I'm holding up on this for now.
All of us have seen Stock Fieros with heavy Vertical scratches in the Glass side windows. Those scratches are caused by 2 pads welded into the doors on the outside right below the outer Dew Wipes. Those pads have some felt on them but are not adjustable and can't be removed because they are the pads that hold the window solid against the rubber seal around the door. Remove them & the window will leak.
So now we know what causes the heavy scratches on the stock glass side windows on Fieros. Now 3 more factors become involved in a Chop Top situation. #1 the side windows in my Chop Top have a lot more curve in them & thus will ride even harder against those outside pads & will be even more inclined to scratch. #2 Because the side window attaches to the outside of the window mechanism, that extra 1/16" of window thickness will make an extra 1/16" of pressure against those outside pads that cause the scratches on Stock Fiero windows. #3 Those that already have Chop Tops should know that because of the extra curvature of the side windows, right now when the window is rolled down it just barely clears the inside of the side impact door beam. With anymore curvature or window thickness a modification may have to be made to the door beam to keep it from scratching the window.
Yeah I know, it's kinda exciting when someone finds a web site for someone who says they can make this kind of item. But before someone jumps in there & buys 10 or 15 set, He has to do his own research.
If I would have went out and had 10 or 15 sets of these windows made and sent sets to Curley & Rob & others. Then a few weeks later they might be on here complaining that the windows were scratching already. I would look like a total idiot & I would end up sitting on a large investment that no one wanted to use because they weren't properly engineered.
So needless to say, I'm still working on it.
Archie
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[This message has been edited by jscott1 (edited 10-07-2006).]
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madcurl
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OCT 18, 06:07 PM
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joshua riedl
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OCT 18, 06:14 PM
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Nobody got my "playing with it" joke?
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Archie
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OCT 18, 07:01 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by joshua riedl:
Nobody got my "playing with it" joke? |
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Actually I noticed it when you posted it.
I was going to ask (for reference only now) how long you had to play with it to get half an inch? But I wasn't sure you wrote it as a joke.
Archie
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madcurl
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FEB 18, 02:37 AM
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jscott1
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FEB 18, 04:00 AM
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Curley, don't you know grave robbing is illegal... may this thread Rest In Peace. 
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madcurl
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FEB 18, 01:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1:
Curley, don't you know grave robbing is illegal... may this thread Rest In Peace. |
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We have a few [home brews] who have shown interest in chopping their own Fiero. By rebumping this thread...it'll demonstrate some of the "issues" regarding chopping a Fiero at home. A "custom" window is part of the main issue regarding a choptop...homebrew or Archies'.
What's the qoute, " Those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it." Build and make your "chop" around the windows...not the other way around.[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 02-18-2007).]
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Midshipman Easy
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FEB 18, 05:04 PM
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Add a pinch of salt and stir....
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madcurl
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MAY 26, 12:33 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by madcurl:
We have a few [home brews] who have shown interest in chopping their own Fiero.
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Bumping for a friend.
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el_roy1985
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MAY 26, 03:03 PM
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So are there any sort of windows that can be purchased? I would like to get a set so I can chop my Fiero to fit them.
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