What the heck happened to this place??? (Page 4/4) Jefrysuko MAR 18, 08:41 PM quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I never disagreed did I? Yes you did! But then again everything I read from you lately sounds like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Cliff Pennock MAR 19, 05:51 AM quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: All I meant by saying what I said was the fact that they did start things... I was never trying to point blame for threads turning bad, but I just pointed out that the threads that do turn bad are threads that originate around people that have "high credentials" Ok, all together now: So you are saying... wait, I have no clue what you are trying to say. Or perhaps that you disagree with the fact people start threads. Or that people with "high credentials" shouldn't start threads because if they didn't start threads they can't be turned into flamewars by trolls. Or that if a thread turns into a flamewar, it's also the fault of the thread starter. Or perhaps that... errr... I give up. I honest to gosh have no frickin' clue what the point is you're trying to make. quote I never disagreed did I? You didn't? Cliff: Actually, it's just that now there's an "other" camp that comes here, starts crap, then goes over to the other place telling other people how much crap there is here (while the only crap comes from them). You: if this is true, why is it these "crap" threads are all started by the "loyal pff'ers" then? I think we all seem to forget about the age old rule of "it takes 2 to tango". Cliff: Examples? You: (bunch of links)[i] The rest are just threads that are blatant threads asking for flaming stared by random people. Seems to me like you did. craigsfiero2007 MAR 19, 01:54 PM This started out as a friendly question thread and then, bam, Trash Can material. Jefrysuko MAR 19, 04:48 PM Cardealer I hope you start another thread to share your project with us. I was just kidding about the Cement Shoes