The economy, is it good or bad. (Page 4/181) aceman JUL 28, 03:15 PM quote Originally posted by Formula88: So where do I send my application? I'm serious. Formula88, I don't think it's the job, I think it's a person's attitude about the job that makes it a great sounding job. DeV8er JUL 28, 03:33 PM doing about 40 to 50 thousand a week in sales of tires to farmers and their "support" staff. There has been a up in the last 3 out of 4 weeks, last was down. Whats up with the economy, ask the farmers... DL10 JUL 28, 03:52 PM quote Originally posted by aceman: Formula88, I don't think it's the job, I think it's a person's attitude about the job that makes it a great sounding job. quote Originally posted by Raydar: . The same goes for most of the people in my group. And they're looking for people. Formula88 JUL 28, 04:05 PM quote Originally posted by aceman: Formula88, I don't think it's the job, I think it's a person's attitude about the job that makes it a great sounding job. Sure, I agree. But if most everyone has that attitude and they're looking for people - where do I sign up? Where I work right now the pay is marginally acceptable (decent in the "I'm glad I have a job perspective), but most of the people I work with are burnt out and overworked. When something goes wrong, people are more interested in who to blame than fixing the problem. If the building was on fire, they'd want to know who started it before bothering to call the fire dept. It's a lot like the movie Office Space. If you work really hard, you just feel like you've been banging your head against the wall. There's no incentive to excel. I'm looking for a place that rewards independant initiative and a "get it done" attitude - not one that takes it for granted. To be honest, I'm pretty well settled in the Raleigh area, but if I found something good enough elsewhere.... I'd move. Raydar JUL 28, 05:04 PM quote Originally posted by Formula88: So where do I send my application? I'm serious. I work in a glorified (I use the term very loosely) NOC. Our center monitors the IT infrastructure for the entire company. (There are backup centers, elsewhere, that can be turned up on very short notice.) Everything from the telecommunications equipment (fiber optics, microwave radio links, multiplexers, channel banks, etc.,) to network routers and switches, to servers, to mainframe, to the communications links that support the remote control/monitoring of the electric substations. What they're trying to do, now, is entice experienced internal people with a telecommunications background to transfer into the center. There's nothing open to the outside, right now. If anything opens up, I can let you know. What do you do? As for attitude..? I'm probably as cynical as anybody. It's just that I'm a perfect fit for my job, and vice versa. That has very infrequently happened in my career. I have a tendency to be ADD. (God help me, If I was in school now, they'd have me pumped so full of ritalin that I'd float in and out of the classrooms. ) I respond to communications systems alarms, and work to troubleshoot the cause of those alarms. If I can't fix them with the resources at my disposal (lots of remote control admin type stuff) I send a ticket to the field to have a tech or analyst look at it. I very seldom have enough time to let my mind wander. twofatguys JUL 29, 04:36 AM quote Originally posted by Raydar: I work in a glorified (I use the term very loosely) NOC. Our center monitors the IT infrastructure for the entire company. (There are backup centers, elsewhere, that can be turned up on very short notice.) Everything from the telecommunications equipment (fiber optics, microwave radio links, multiplexers, channel banks, etc.,) to network routers and switches, to servers, to mainframe, to the communications links that support the remote control/monitoring of the electric substations. What they're trying to do, now, is entice experienced internal people with a telecommunications background to transfer into the center. There's nothing open to the outside, right now. If anything opens up, I can let you know. What do you do? quote As for attitude..? I'm probably as cynical as anybody. It's just that I'm a perfect fit for my job, and vice versa. That has very infrequently happened in my career. I have a tendency to be ADD. (God help me, If I was in school now, they'd have me pumped so full of ritalin that I'd float in and out of the classrooms. ) I respond to communications systems alarms, and work to troubleshoot the cause of those alarms. If I can't fix them with the resources at my disposal (lots of remote control admin type stuff) I send a ticket to the field to have a tech or analyst look at it. I very seldom have enough time to let my mind wander. I set up these systems as a private contractor, I along with the other two guys I work with was offered a similar job on a site in Phoenix, I turned it down because of the weather in the summertime, and it would have been a pretty good paycut. I am interested in Georgia though. Let me know if a job opens up as well. Brad 84Bill JUL 29, 08:42 AM quote Originally posted by Raydar: Funny that you should say that. I heard a 40 (or longer?) year mortgage advertised the other day. If you can't pay for a house in 30 years or less, you've got too much house. Banks control the economy thru interest, the fed. The reason 40 year loans are pushed is because banks need the money and it makes the nut alittle easier to bust for the average slob who now cant afford a 30 year. Taxes are going up because the govts need the money, prices are going up because shippers need the money for fuel, and fuel is going up because refiners cant make enough JP6 for all our hummers and APCs to burn just before they get blowed up and catch fire. The enconomy is in shambles and now the market is "correcting" because reality is finally hitting home... Last weeks paper. Note 1M in tax dollars being spent on race car to promote citrus industry. They arent doing so well either. But the economy is strong... not need to panice, just buy buy buy like theres no tomorrow. 84Bill JUL 29, 08:48 AM Oddly enough South Florida's housing is the least affected so far. California by comparison is down 700% as a whole feom 2000 sales. The biggest difference is the prices in housing. Cali is Premium, Florida is regular unleaded. I wonder how Toadster is makin out. Toddster JUL 29, 11:21 AM quote Originally posted by 84Bill: Oddly enough South Florida's housing is the least affected so far. California by comparison is down 700% as a whole feom 2000 sales. The biggest difference is the prices in housing. Cali is Premium, Florida is regular unleaded. I wonder how Toadster is makin out. The only thing keeping the Florida Real Estate Market afloat is out of state investors. EVERYTHING in the state of Florida has a "For Rent" sign on it. Time shares and new large high rise developments with outside funding is pumping up the states numbers. California has pockets of problems, Sacramento and Orange County are suffering badly due to overbuilding. When all you have is land and money to burn it seems like people can justify anything. The problem is that there is only so much need for housing and if everyone has a home already and no new jobs are being created you will end-up with excess inventory. The Bay Area is a different story. We added 33,000 new jobs in the last quarter of 2006 and we live in a bowl. They aren't making any more land here so prices and demand (although flatter than in recent years) are holding steady. Some areas of the Bay Area are hit harder than others but on the whole, it's still a good market. As for Realtors in general, new laws in California are making it harder to get a license (not a bit too soon either). Many Realtors have bailed-out due to the correction and are making it easier for the real professionals to just get stronger. I'm actually on target for my best year ever in the business. I'd better do well too. Afterall, I have welfare recipients in Florida to support. Uaana JUL 29, 11:34 AM Bill, sometimes I worry about you.. You'll let us know if you start writing a manifesto and start wearing sunglasses and a hoodie right? For the record, the economy is doing great. consider we're in a war an pumping millions overseas, have a liberal congress that doesn't see a problem that can't be fixed with a program and more funding. My 401 is doing ok, my short time stocks are giving me a nice return every 6 months. I'm not uber educated, I'm not a skilled tradesman, just found a nitch and a company that appreciates me and what I've learned about our systems.