Sorry but i gotta ask, whats the story with Archie and Cletus? (Page 4/20)
kawana JAN 07, 08:25 PM
Oh, forgot about this thread already :P Thanks for clearing things up, for some reason i thought Archie and Cletus were 2 different people lol. Thought perhaps 2 different suppliers of v8 conversions that had a feud or something. If its just some turd that is mad that he didn't get a job well thats quite sad. If i got like that every time i didn't get a job, id have alot of enemy's lol :P Ok i think we can let this thread die, i dont want this to turn into something bad
Saxman JAN 07, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by josef644:
Where in Germany, I was In Old Heidelberg 1966-1968 HHC7th Army



I wore out the golf course at Heidelberg. What a beautiful course!

You were there the year I was born, so I don't think we met I do love Deutchland. That's where I got my first Fiero back in '93 - a red 88 T-top!


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Originally posted by bmwguru:
my wife looks great in his car...lol.



I second that!
Toddster JAN 07, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Oreif:

A previous PFF member who caused many threads to go down into flames was banned.
With the aid of a few other banned members he started another forum and is for some reason, obsessed with slamming Archie and SBC V-8 Fiero's. He spends many hours reading posts here and making fun of them on the other forum as well as seeking out anything SBC V-8 related just to slam them.

Archie's first name is Cletus and he somehow thinks this annoy's Archie.

He only does it because he craves attention. As Jake state's he is nothing but a "Troll" and since he cannot troll here, He seeks out places he can.


Just ignore it.





I can confirm this and I can speak from personal experience at the depths of hate these people have. One member has made a personal mission to destroy me lately for his own screw-up started a good half dozen threads and invaded coutnless others with is crap. I ignored him. I was gratified to see that when his ratings bar appeared is was deep red. Well, a few PMs to his fellow trolls later and whadya know, it's more green than red now.

These people have clustered together to destroy this forum, individuals who don't acknowledge their superiority, and anyone who accidentally gets in their way in the same way any radical group that wants "respect" tries to force it out of people. This is the internet version of a street gang.

Many have taken the approach to ignore them and go about their merry way unperturbed except for the occassional roughing-up of their threads. Some of us take the problem head on and end up with plenty of wounds to lick later on. Others still belong to the silent majority who speak not but vote accordingly when the time comes.

In the end, the ratings bar is your only REAL weapon. So all I can advise is USE IT!
Snapperhead JAN 07, 09:18 PM
I have a sbc fiero and I love it.. Some people just need to live a life..... But.... after looking at zz performance 9.01 @150.5 mph 3800 powered Grand Prix I think I'm going to build a 3800 for my spare Fiero. 600hp!!! and a 500 streetable hp 3800 wow!!. and shave another 800 lbs or more off that Grand Prix weight.....MMM. Oh well, it just ain't cool to slam another persons love...be it cars, girls, pets.... or just life... at least were living one...... Vince
josef644 JAN 07, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by Snapperhead:

I have a sbc fiero and I love it.. Some people just need to live a life..... But.... after looking at zz performance 9.01 @150.5 mph 3800 powered Grand Prix I think I'm going to build a 3800 for my spare Fiero. 600hp!!! and a 500 streetable hp 3800 wow!!. and shave another 800 lbs or more off that Grand Prix weight.....MMM. Oh well, it just ain't cool to slam another persons love...be it cars, girls, pets.... or just life... at least were living one...... Vince



Here Here, well said, time for bed, good day
Pyrthian JAN 08, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by kawana:
Ok i hope people dont get pissed at me but i gotta ask. Everytime i watch a v8 fiero video on youtube theres some guys there bashing either archie or cletus, or just bashing the v8 owner themselves. So, can someone give me a rundown on why they are doing this?



generation gap maybe?
same reason "rice" is bashed - I guess

you'll hear endless bashing of the "wind-up toys" from the V8 guys also. and - a V8 Fiero is the best/worst or both worlds - a plastic wind-up toy with a V8. of course its gonna draw fire. people attack because they are intimidated. that is it.

no matter what you stick in your Fiero, unless its a V8 - first thing your gonna hear from people when you show off your motor is: "I knew a guy who had a 350 in one of those things". your work is lessened now because the "average" person thinks the V8 is better and more impressive. end of story.
Fino JAN 08, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by Pyrthian:
no matter what you stick in your Fiero, unless its a V8 - first thing your gonna hear from people when you show off your motor is: "I knew a guy who had a 350 in one of those things". your work is lessened now because the "average" person thinks the V8 is better and more impressive. end of story.



How true .......HOW TRUE!!! Right or wrong .....it .....is .......TRUE.

I do like the *&^%&* SOUND of a SBC.
Ed

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pacethis JAN 08, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by Pyrthian:


generation gap maybe?
same reason "rice" is bashed - I guess

you'll hear endless bashing of the "wind-up toys" from the V8 guys also. and - a V8 Fiero is the best/worst or both worlds - a plastic wind-up toy with a V8. of course its gonna draw fire. people attack because they are intimidated. that is it.

no matter what you stick in your Fiero, unless its a V8 - first thing your gonna hear from people when you show off your motor is: "I knew a guy who had a 350 in one of those things". your work is lessened now because the "average" person thinks the V8 is better and more impressive. end of story.



The thing is, it doesn't have to be the end of the story. So, the guy says he knew a guy that had a V8 in one...

So say to the guy, yeah - I know a couple of people that did that to...then discuss the pros/cons of each setup. I used to have a Northstar powered 86GT Fiero. I currently have a 3800SCS1. I prefer the current setup, it's more fun to drive. Does that mean I don't like V8's in Fieros...no! I think they're awesome...but so are the 3800SC ones, and there are more as well.

Archie has done wonders for the Fiero community, especially in regards to sparking interest and creativity. I personally don't think his conversions are the greatest, I looked at buying a car a few years ago that he'd done and didn't like the way the belt setup had to extend into the wheel well...but there are difficulties/imperfections associated with many setups.

In short, the guy doing the bashing is a loser. He needs to get a life.
Saxman JAN 08, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Fino:
I do like the *&^%&* SOUND of a SBC.
Ed



OK - I'll do you a favor, Ed. I'll trade my V8 Fino for your V6 Fino.
Formula88 JAN 08, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by pacethis:


The thing is, it doesn't have to be the end of the story. So, the guy says he knew a guy that had a V8 in one...

So say to the guy, yeah - I know a couple of people that did that to...then discuss the pros/cons of each setup. I used to have a Northstar powered 86GT Fiero. I currently have a 3800SCS1. I prefer the current setup, it's more fun to drive. Does that mean I don't like V8's in Fieros...no! I think they're awesome...but so are the 3800SC ones, and there are more as well.

Archie has done wonders for the Fiero community, especially in regards to sparking interest and creativity. I personally don't think his conversions are the greatest, I looked at buying a car a few years ago that he'd done and didn't like the way the belt setup had to extend into the wheel well...but there are difficulties/imperfections associated with many setups.

In short, the guy doing the bashing is a loser. He needs to get a life.



I agree completely. I love just about any engine swap. I love seeing what people have done with their cars and the new and unique ways they've built them. How can you look at an install like Skitime's 3800SC and not be impressed? 4.9 swaps, Northstars, 3.4 DOHC, they're all great. I'm really looking foward to seeing an ITB Northstar in a Fiero and BMWGuru's VR6 swap.

But if it were me, I'd do an Archie swap. It's just what I prefer. It would be faster than some, slower than others. And it is the ULTIMATE swap - FOR ME. I've ridden in and driven a few different swapped Fieros, but the LT1 I drove put the biggest smile on my face. To me, that's more important than a time or dyno slip.