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I'm Back
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JUL 16, 07:01 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by LZeitgeist: If I built a dog house for a dog, and the appreciation I got shown for it was a bite, I'd damn sure kick it. |
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Ok, how about this: Building the dog house is noble, but it doesn't give you license to kick the neighbor's dog.
Idea is that Archie might make good stuff and help part of the Fiero community out, but if you don't do a SBC or LT-1 he doesn't really help you directly. Of course I include body kits and other stuff he does, but Archie's influence in the Fiero community doesn't stand-alone give him license to go off on people, especially people that he will never help via they don't ask for it. It's kinda like being required to worship the president of a neighboring country that has no affect on your country.
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Formula88
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JUL 16, 07:08 PM
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Well, then, Ed, what gives others the right to give Archie crap?
I'd wager if people who don't like Archie or his swaps would leave him alone and stop trolling for him, they'd find themselves in his crosshairs much less - if at all.Consider it a little experiment. Stop whining and moaning about Archie and posting in his threads or trying to stir up crap about him in other threads and see if he still kicks your dog, so to speak. His work doesn't give him license to go off on people. But when people go off on him, it's stupid to expect him not to respond.
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jstricker
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JUL 16, 08:01 PM
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Once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Archie has helped me, and a lot of other people, and long before I spent a penny with him. It was BECAUSE of that help that I DID finally buy a Finale kit. Don't forget as well that he was a major sponsor of Wheatstock, particularly the track day. He paid for 5 spots for the track day. $500, cash up front. He said they were for the first 5 of his customers that wanted to claim them. ONE person took advantage of his generosity. He didn't whine and moan about it, he didn't ask for his money back. To top THAT off, when I was chatting with him one day (ordering a front battery box for the Finale), I mentioned that I hated to ask him about sponsoring a class for the show because he'd already donated a lot, but that I also didn't want to deny him the chance to donate for the kit car class if he wanted. I told him there was no pressure, it was up to him, and I just wanted him to know about it. He didn't bat an eye and donated to sponsor the kit car class at the show as well. He didn't have to do that, not any of it, but he did. Now how much have YOU given back to the community, Ed? John Stricker
| quote | | Originally posted by I'm Back: Ok, how about this: Building the dog house is noble, but it doesn't give you license to kick the neighbor's dog. Idea is that Archie might make good stuff and help part of the Fiero community out, but if you don't do a SBC or LT-1 he doesn't really help you directly. Of course I include body kits and other stuff he does, but Archie's influence in the Fiero community doesn't stand-alone give him license to go off on people, especially people that he will never help via they don't ask for it. It's kinda like being required to worship the president of a neighboring country that has no affect on your country. |
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Shananigans
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JUL 16, 08:18 PM
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I don't know Archie and have never done any bussiness with him yet. But I will tell you this, from what I have seen of his accomplishments, he has my respect and he should be honored for his contributions to the Fiero world. Best regards to you Archie.
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Mastermind
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JUL 16, 09:09 PM
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I find some of these replies incredulous as I read them in absolute amazement. Many of these replies read as "I don't know all the facts but I'm gonna defend Archie only because it's Archie." While others read, "I'm doing or I've done a V8 swap so I want to stay in Archie's good graces in case I need him for something." Why does his supporters only focus on his swap business and kit? I don't have a problem with him doing V8 swaps. I say again, my major problem is his crass, rude, juvenile behavior totally unbefitting of someone who has achieved so much. Archie's behavior is reminscent of the soup chef on Seinfeld. One rude, crude, dude. Fine, if that's his personality but don't act as tho he's the second coming and without sin. Supporters of this only insure that behavior will continue unabated. Darth Fiero, I have much respect for you, in part because your very smart and know your stuff. But also because you can articulate your intellect without insulting those you are trying to help. Finally, I challenge all Archie supporters that are pointing me out as a "instigator" to post a link to an example to support your allegations. And I'll bet 99.9% of the time it will reveal Archie as the true instigator. Fair enough? BTW here is a quote and the link of Archie chasing me over the forum to harrass. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/043622.html
| quote | | Originally posted by Archie:
Looks like you were Wrong AGAIN Mr. Mastermind.
Mastermind, just a few days ago you were running around to every thread throwing flames and arrows. Beating your chest like some monkey............ today we find you in the alley behind the shopping center trying to sell items out of the dumpster for a (+) Yeah, I thought about leaving you alone down here. I fact I have left you alone for a couple of days. But then I thought about it, if the rolls were reversed, you'd still be in there kicking away. Oh the Humanity........ Archie POS., I thought I'd add a Smiley Face so you'd think I was just kidding around  (but I'm not) |
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[This message has been edited by Mastermind (edited 07-16-2004).]
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donk316
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JUL 16, 09:11 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Butter:
Archie don't need anything but a little respect.
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respect is earned not given. Oh look!!! 3 more negatives in this thread for me! How shocking! [This message has been edited by donk316 (edited 07-16-2004).]
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donk316
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JUL 16, 09:16 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Mastermind: I find some of these replies incredulous as I read them in absolute amazement. Many of these replies read as I don't know all the facts but I'm gonna defend Archie only because it's Archie. While others read, "I'm doing or I've done a V8 swap so I want to stay in Archie's good graces in case I need him for something." Why does his supporters only focus on his swap business and kit? I don't have a problem with him doing V8 swaps. I say again, my major problem is his crass, rude, juvenile behavior totally unbefitting of someone who has achieved so much. Archie's behavior is reminscent of the soup chef on Seinfeld. One rude, crude, dude. Fine, if that's his personality but don't act as tho he's the second coming and without sin. Supporters of this only insure that behavior will continue unabated. Darth Fiero, I have much respect for you, in part because your very smart and know your stuff. But also because you can articulate your intellect without insulting those you are trying to help |
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Well said.
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California Kid
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JUL 16, 09:45 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by Mastermind: Finally, I challenge all Archie supporters that are pointing me out as a "instigator" to post a link to an example to support your allegations. And I'll bet 99.9% of the time it will reveal Archie as the true instigator. Fair enough? BTW here is a quote and the link of Archie chasing me over the forum to harrass. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/043622.html
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NO THAT'S NOT FAIR ENOUGH !!! Why should any of us go through more work digging out the posts you've made, that we've already read to form our opinion of you ???? YOU GO BACK AND READ EVERYTHING YOU'VE POSTED, BUT FIRST, REMOVE THE BIG CHIP FROM YOUR SHOULDER WHEN READING THEM, AND TRY TO LOOK AT IT FROM AN OUTSIDE VIEW POINT.And how nice of you to post Archie's response, which he posted "after you really pi$$ed him off". What the heck does that prove??? You know, you can keep carrying on with this if you want, but I've noticed each time you post, your rating number goes up, and the green bar looks like it's shrinking. Think about it. [This message has been edited by California Kid (edited 07-16-2004).]
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donk316
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JUL 16, 09:55 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by California Kid: You know, you can keep carrying on with this if you want, but I've noticed each time you post, your rating number goes up, and the green bar looks like it's shrinking. Think about it. |
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LOL! yeah let the ratings bar determine your responses! Dont stir the pot or question anyone! Fascism at its finest.
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Lex
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JUL 16, 09:58 PM
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