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84Bill JUN 11, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

Bill just exactly how should the world be run?


I could care less about "the world"

What I do care about are us citizens who are required to remain dedicated to a dream that does not exist per sae. Oh sure you can buy it but best make sure you have the ability to make the payments while being inundated with commertialized products on HSN that your wife simply must have and will run the credit cards out for nonsens.

The companies are all to happy to take your money and the banks would love to forclose on your house and leave you in the gutter.. Just sign here and we will "help" fix your credit.

Life is for sale? Since when does sex sell? I know I can't have it the way I want it because some jerkoff thinks I'm a pervert?

It's total mindlessness and madness. Big coprporations will sell your ass down the drain to make a proffit.. Where in the hell is my government?? I need protection and the government sits back and watches them rape me! THEN to top it all off the government FORCES me to work for another company that buys crap from another company that has their MEGA collections department with 10,000 computers, located in India!


Ring... Ring... Hello Mr. presdent?
About those 1 million jobs you claimed to say indicate a strong economy.
WHERE THE HELL IS MINE????

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84Bill JUN 11, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by Steve Normington:


Yes, I did answer it. The governent is spending money on welfare. They feel they should get something for that money.


Oh?
I feel I should be making 100,000 a year to dictate my policy on customer realatons while fixing computers.

Unlike my representitives that make much more and GET a HELL OF ALOT of FREE perks to sit on their ass al dictate a policy to improve corporate proffits.

Fine.. I'll accept 16 bucks an hour.. now give it to me.

Oh whats that?
Because I can't find a job that suits my needs (due to your inept policy) you create another policy that states I must work for you and your other buddy buddy corporations to get the welfare dole I PAID FOR?

Sorry Steve, I don't put the blinders on like most other people do. I see where the problem is now it is up to US to dictate what we demand a change in policy, take up arms (oh sorry we can't) Protest (oh sorry you must PAY to have a permit and stand three miles away behind a barbed wire fence and behind that yellow line across the street) or just keep you head burried up yer ass and keep your mouth shut.

Oh and be a "patriot" while you are at it by denigrating the poor unfortunate slobs who complain about their current situation, We dont want the truth to be known about how freaking bad things are and how much worse it will get in the not to distant future.

Keep you head down Steve and don't rock the boat..

I don't have the answers but I know who does and like I said I'll make an appointment come November and Nader is my man. I can give 2 snits about Bush or Kerry because they are just more of the same smoke and mirrors you call sky.

I can see right through that pile of brown stuff.

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loafer87gt JUN 11, 05:31 PM
Part of the American Dream is keeping your head up in the face of adversity and not letting one unfortunate incident leave you defeated. This attitude you have as of late is going to get you nowhere fast! You have to focus on the positive things - such as that you have a valuable skill which in which there is a great opportunity for you to do freelance work. This way you are your own boss, responsible for you own fate, and not being dependant on the man you so despise. If it's the evil corporations that are outsourcing their work outside the US, hit the smaller grassroots businesses and locals who tend to be more sympathetic to your current predicament. Start by putting up flyers in your neighbourhood offering to do freelance computer diagnostic and repair work. One of my buddies is doing this sort of work during the evenings here, and he makes about $60 CDN an hour doing basic virus removal and system maintenance work. Not satisified with only doing housecalls, he also stopped in at several of the small business around town and presented himself and his skills to them. As time went on, he now has a good client base and is making a very good living. If nothing else, it will put some cash in your pocket, keep your skills honed, and hopefully lift your spirits a bit until you find other employment. Unfortunately, whats done is done, but the ball is in your park now - what you do with it is up to you now.

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84Bill JUN 11, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by loafer87gt:

Part of the American Dream is keeping your head up in the face of adversity and not letting one unfortunate incident leave you defeated. This attitude you have as of late is going to get you nowhere fast! You have to focus on the positive things - you have a skill which in which there is a great opportunity for you to do freelance work. This way you are your own boss, responsible for you own fate, and not being dependant on the man you so despise. Start by putting up flyers in your neighbourhood offering to do freelance computer diagnostic and repair work. One of my buddies is doing this sort of work during the evenings here, and he makes about $60 CDN an hour doing basic virus removal and system maintenance work. Not satisified with only doing housecalls, he also stopped in at several of the small business around town and presented himself and his skills to them. As time went on, he now has a good client base and is making a very good living. If nothing else, it will put some cash in your pocket, keep your skills honed, and hopefully lift your spirits a bit until you find other employment. Unfortunately, whats done is done, but the ball is in your park now - what you do with it is up to you now.



Thanks for taking note of my sacrefices, war is indeed HELL!
I have declaired war on Bull Sht, just so happens I look like sht. Sorry if that offends but aint no sense giving up because you see the battle as futile, go ahead and enjoy being taken to the cleaners. You and many others are the very reason it is futile! It won't stop me! Even if I get a job I will still be here and I will still be shooting sht. Probeably with high speed internet connection instead of 56k! I'm sure you will just love that idea.

Anyway I do have money, not much but it covers all I need and a little to spare, in fact I just baught you and me some more time to sit and shoot the sht.

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ditch JUN 11, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:


Here is another communist / nazi rule that the "party" has decided would best "help" society.

Though I agree with the "spirit" of this law I feel the law itself is nothing more than a form of forced labor. AS I SAID the cause is ok but there is an undelying problem.

I find the "problem" a bit troubeling personally

The Personal "Responsibility" and Work Oppertunity Act. (Public Law 104-193)
It states that any able bodied person between the ages of 18 and 50 without dependants must be "employed" at least 20 hr a week or participating in a "work" activity to recieve foodstamps (public welfare) benefits.

What this is indicating it that I must be employed and working the minimum hours OR "participating in a " work activity" to recieve public welfare.

Somehow it is worded in such a way that I can't quite grasp how they did it. It basically means I must avail myself to "work" community service. I really don't have a problem with volunterring my time and energy to a good cause BUT I do have a problem with not being "compensated" for it.


I think that's the whole idea: You said: "I do have a problem with not being compensated with it". They probably want you to feel this way. It seems like an attempt to keep people from using it long term. The way I see it: they want you to think...hey, I'm working 20 hours a week for "nothing", why don't I go find a job which will pay me money for those 20 hours. It would encourage me to press harder in my looking for a job. Kind of a way of encouraging people to take care of themselves.


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Originally posted by 84Bill:
Where I came from mandatory community service was often "used" as a punnishment for offenders of minor crimes agains the community. It was designed to serve as a means of instilling civic duty into those that casued damage to it.

Now I will go and put my time into this because I feel it is a good cause BUT the luster and gratification has been stolen from me and that quite frankly it angers me; I will not benefit personally from performing such an activity.


Like I said above, I don't think they want you to benefit from it...at least not financially. It's a way to get you to look even harder for a job...or any job to hold you over till you find the right one.


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Originally posted by 84Bill:
My question is who does?
I "volunteered" to "work" for habitat for humanity.
It seems to be a wonderfull way to give something special to those in need and I am never above helping another person. All I get is satisfaction but that is only if I volunteer and in my case I did not choose too.

So how much does it cost to build the house that the government will buy at cost and give to a needy person?
How much to carpenters, sheet rockers, electricians or plumbers get per hour to perform 20 hrs a month for their services?
If it is all vollunteer work who really gets the 165,000 dollars total that would normally go to a builder and the contractors for this house?

Lastly, where does that money go? I sure as hell didn't get any of it and neither did any of the other "volunteers".

Is that dachshund I smell cooking or am I not even in the ball park?

Trolls spare us your BS


I've had my share of building experience...mostly roofing, but our company would get "involved" in new construction sometimes....good winter work. There is a tremendous amount of labor expense associated with new construction. I roofed a habitat house in Georgia in the spring of 1997. Didn't want to go down there, but my girlfriend at the time was really into it. Guess you could say I was whipped. With habitat, you can basically take the labor cost away. Materials are usually donated or purchased at cost. Where I worked, the food was even donated, so all the workers were fed (and fed well) everyday of the job.

The thing is, it's a low cost program, so that big money ($165000) is not there to be made. This is totally different than a private builder building me a house an me purchasing it for $165000.

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84Bill JUN 11, 06:19 PM
Thanks ditch

Ya know I was thinking about an analogy while standing outside smoking a (government subsidized product that I am addicted to and is deadly) cigarette and just wanting to toot on a nice fat line of cocaine or speed.

I came up with the idea that most people are all blind men being beaten up by a bunch of bullies. They got me too but I can see where they are and I shout warnings to them. Instead of swinging their cane in the direction I am indicating the bad guys are, they turn toward the sound of my voice and whack the hell out of me. Ya know I have my arms held behind my back too. but they continually whack at me, It doesn't hurt much, more of an annoyance but it is yet another bump on the head I have to deal with.

I really don't understand why I do it.

All this from a guy that had ADD (didn't exist at the time) as a child, was thrown in special education (yeah I rode the little bus) and left highschool in 11th grade, joined the military, got a GED, went to a vocational school, passed with a 4.0 GPA, was active in student government (my god what a waste of time.. but the donuts were worth it) and got a really good job doing what I have always loved to do BUT has turned into a nightmare... for me.

I'm constantly being misdiagnosed..

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Boondawg JUN 11, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by 84Bill:

Thanks ditch

Ya know I was thinking about an analogy while standing outside smoking a (government subsidized product that I am addicted to and is deadly) cigarette and just wanting to toot on a nice fat line of cocaine or speed.

I came up with the idea that you people are all blind men being beaten up by a bunch of bullies. They got me too but I can see where they are and I shout warnings to you. Instead of swinging your cane in the direction I am indicating they are you turn toward me and whack the hell out of me. Ya know I have my arms held behind my back too. but you continually whack at me, It doesn't hurt much, more of an annoyance but it is yet another bumb on the head I have to deal with.

I really don't understand why I do it.


Clear line of sight?
pokeyfiero JUN 11, 06:35 PM
have you tried hitting yourself really hard on the head?
It might work.Youll never know until you try.
84Bill JUN 11, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:


Clear line of sight?


LMAO!

Speaking of which

There are now 5 or 6 squrrels that take peanuts out of my hand. It's funny as hell to watch them all scurry over from a 4 house arc that is in the line of sight.

They just come bounding over without fail and I think it's the greatest damn feeling to know I earned their trust.

I don't need life to fit me, I fit in life very well and I am the happiest just that way. I don't need to conform to rules others dictate, I just need to follow the ones I feel are best for me.

It's a shame the rules have gotten all screwed up because all I need is a crackerbox house and a few bucks to pay for the basics. However peanuts are what I want to buy, not work for.

God as my witness I am telling you the truth about at least this. Here is the proof.

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84Bill JUN 11, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

have you tried hitting yourself really hard on the head?
It might work.Youll never know until you try.


No but why don't you get out of my thread and go play games in someone elses because your contribution means absolutly nothing.

Stop being such a damn post troll and do US all a favor by not taking up space.

Buzz off
Ok?

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