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| If noone els will represent V8's I will (1/4 timeslip)!!!!! (Page 4/41) |
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PBJ
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AUG 30, 12:07 PM
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jstricker
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AUG 30, 12:27 PM
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Kid, I'm not doubting that this slip was an accurate report of his time, I'm flat out saying it could not have been one. Let's just do the same thing on the slip you posted that I did on the original slip. At the 1,000' mark you ran a 7.237. 1/4 ET was 8.705. Difference of 1.468 seconds. That figures out to 148.6 mph the last 320' for the left car. Right car figures out to 160.8 mph. Both of those are in line with what the trap speed showed as being. I notice you didn't say that YOUR car was running in the high 7's low 8's though. You just said is was a "slip that I happen to have".  John Stricker
| | | quote | | Originally posted by California Kid: Hey Tyler, realize you don't care to take the proof any further, but a digital cam shot of the time slip un-cropped is sometimes the best proof. They can be faked, but it's extremely difficult and consumes a lot of time. There will always be people that doubt what you say, nothing can change that. |
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sqoach
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AUG 30, 12:33 PM
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Lame  I was hoping to see some great times, because usually people don't show what their car can do. I looked at the slip, and thought it was fake at first, just by the appearance. I figured I'd wait to see what everyone else thought. Some of you guys are pretty good at spotting bs like this. It's kinda sad that this guy had to fake a timeslip, and then deny it when the proof is there. I don't know much about drag racing, but I thought the end time didn't quite match up to the rest of the numbers. [This message has been edited by sqoach (edited 08-30-2003).]
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Bigfieroman
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AUG 30, 12:35 PM
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I think the problem was traction. If his horsepower figures are correct, and he had a strong enough tranny, I think he just couldn't get the power down. Every picture so far has the stock 14" wheels, and that look like standard size tires. If we assume that he had the widest you can fit on the back of an unmodified 84-87, (245, I am told), he would spin them like mad. I doubt he could put anywhere near that much down, even if they were full-on race slicks. Wait a minute...is a 4-speed even geared high enough to hit 135? ------------------ 87 GT Auto, Beretta GTZ Wheels, 225/50-16 Dunlop SP Sport A2s, Poly cradle/swaybar bushings, KYB shocks/struts, RCC Bumpsteer kit, 1" front & 7/8" rear swaybars, NYM rear springs (stiffest), H4 headlights, Fierowarehouse Scorpion scoop, 88GTNeverfinished tails, Repainted all silver, Fiero Store hitch, Accel SSR wires, Rapidfire plugs, K&N filters. Future mods: Rear control arm poly bushings, Front mounted battery, Hood pressure vent. 3800 S/C after all that!
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fieroX
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AUG 30, 12:36 PM
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Ok first off, its f#%k the naysaysers cause they dont mean a thing. And second off, nice photoshop work. NOT!!! hahahhaha. This is hilarious. I have so much experience with track times that I can spot a fake from a mile off. I went 11.633 @ 115.927 mph. My 60' was 1.579 and my 1/8 mile was 7.477. So lets do something. Imagine my run with your "run", side by side. Imagine identical reaction times so there is no advantage off the line. So heres the hypothetical race. We would leave at the same time, but by the 60' I would be ahead of you by a foot or so. I would beat you there by .03, but slowly by the 1/8 mile you would be ahead of me by .07 or about 6 feet (at 90 mph). Then all of a sudden, with only 3-4 seconds left of the 1/4, you shoot ahead like a jet with the afterburners turned on, and pull ahead to beat me by just over 10 car legnths or 1.1 seconds!! you would pull ahead and be mph'ing me by over 20 mph on the back stretch, bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs bs. I love john strickers math. GT-X I believe you went 11.6, that adds up perfectly. Id even venture a guess in the 116-117 mph range. Thats a good pass man. but 10.6. hahahaahahahahaahahahaha. Peace out. ------------------ Theres no power greater than X www.fieroX.com
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Formula88
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AUG 30, 12:42 PM
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| | | quote | Originally posted by jstricker:The slip may or may not be real. Maybe the clocks malfunctioned. I don't really care. I just know that you didn't run that last 320' in about .9 seconds.
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It's easy to argue about photochops and bad traction, etc., but lets do the math and let the numbers speak for themselves. Math is not open to interpretation (at least not on the level of Algebra required to do this equation). To travel from the 1000' mark to the 1320' mark in the times recorded on the slip, that means you traveled: (1320ft-1000ft)/(10.678s-9.716s) = 320ft / 0.962s = 332.64 ft/sec. 332.64ft/sec * (3600sec/1hr) * (1mi/5280ft)= 226.8 mph So, the only way the slip can be real (assuming all timing equipment is accurate) is if he averaged 226.8 mph over the last 320ft, which would mean he'd have to go much faster than 226.8mph, then slow back down to an average of 136.66mph through the traps. As they say, "Do the math and draw your own conclusions." I'd still love to ride in an LT4 Fiero, though. Sounds like an awesome car! ------------------ You know you're an engineer when you have no life and can prove it mathematically. [This message has been edited by Formula88 (edited 08-30-2003).]
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California Kid
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AUG 30, 12:57 PM
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perkidelic
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AUG 30, 01:09 PM
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Turn around, place your hands on the car, spread your feet... pat, pat, pat, click, click... you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can be used against you... Man you guys are good!!! I am a drag racing diehard and was so excited that someone had finally hit the 10's I dind't even take a good look at the #'s - I just took his word for it. PFF Top Cops on the job again, protecting the forum against all manner of  perk
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California Kid
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AUG 30, 01:15 PM
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| | | quote | | Originally posted by California Kid: Very impressive engine build up, what make clutch are you using to hold all that torque??? |
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I'd still like to know who's clutch you're running????????
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JazzMan
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AUG 30, 01:30 PM
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| | | quote | | Originally posted by GT-X: I really have no reason to fake a timeslip cause I really dont car if my car is the fastest i built it for the sole purpose of it putting a smile on my face everytime i hit the gas, and thats exactly why I shouldnt have posted but for one stupid instant i thought there might be some people who would like to know. And, No. you will see no other proof. as i've no need to post more proof than that slip. if you dont belive that, fine. but stay out of my thread so it doesnt end up goin down in flames. Tyler |
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This reminds me soooo much of the Iraqi minister who was saying that the Americans weren't in Bagdad, while in the background you could hear the American's gunfire and such.  Guffaw!!! I haven't had a laugh this good since the Cheese Whiz on crackers thread...  At this point you've dug your hole so deep that it doesn't matter what you do to get out of it, it will take a long time for you to live this one down. JazzMan
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