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FieroJimmy

MAR 17, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by HI-TECH:

i'm sorry why do people think that HP loss though the transmission is a linear effect? if it takes lets say 15hp to turn a transmission with a stock motor then why dose it all of the sudden go up when you mate it to a more higher horsepower motor? i just don't get it....

Because the faster you try to accelerate something, the more power it takes. Consider, for example, a car that has 100whp. This hypothetical car can go from 0-60mph in 15 seconds. Now if you take the same car and double the power to 200whp, does it now do 0-60mph in 7.5 seconds? How about if we double it again, 400whp, 0-60mph in 3.75 seconds? The car is the same weight, it's moving through the same air (over less distance, true), but it isn't a fixed hp/mph relationship. The same thing happens inside a transmission (or a differential, transfer case, etc.) the bearings and gears meshing all have their own resistance to rotation that must be overcome in order to speed it up.

Mr.PBody

MAR 17, 08:57 PM

Dave, Shaun, and myself have all talked, let that one go. I respect crzyone for posting such a low dyno run, and owning up to his car running like **** . The new corvette has a badge on the side that says 505HP, so I assumed that was the FWHP rating. I agree, Archie head over to RFT and talk to shaun monitor to monitor, wasting peoples time over here throwing snowballs is a waste. Maybe if you two talked civily we could end this once and for all. I got 15 negs out of this thread and I said to each his own on page two. Two other people say it and get pluses, whatever. Reconvein on RFT and talk this one out. I am sick of all of this.

Mr.PBody

MAR 17, 08:59 PM

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I've always seen the standard number at 15% not HP, so yes it is a sliding scale.

ryan.hess

MAR 17, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by HI-TECH:
i'm sorry why do people think that HP loss though the transmission is a linear effect? if it takes lets say 15hp to turn a transmission with a stock motor then why dose it all of the sudden go up when you mate it to a more higher horsepower motor? i just don't get it....

Short answer: because it does.

Long answer: because friction losses between gear teeth (in a transmission) is dependent on the torque and the RPM they are spinning. Or in other words, horsepower.

You can think of meshing gear teeth like sliding a cinder block across your driveway. It will take more power from you to move if the block weighs 3000lbs (extra torque), or if you slide it 300 mph (extra rpm).

Archie

MAR 17, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.PBody:

Dave, Shaun, and myself have all talked, let that one go. I respect crzyone for posting such a low dyno run, and owning up to his car running like **** . The new corvette has a badge on the side that says 505HP, so I assumed that was the FWHP rating. I agree, Archie head over to RFT and talk to shaun monitor to monitor, wasting peoples time over here throwing snowballs is a waste. Maybe if you two talked civily we could end this once and for all. I got 15 negs out of this thread and I said to each his own on page two. Two other people say it and get pluses, whatever. Reconvein on RFT and talk this one out. I am sick of all of this.

If you're so sick of it then explain why many times you post here like you're trying to get along then turn right around post BS on RFT on your conquests here?

Why is that Cincinnati?

Archie

Oreif

MAR 17, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by crzyone:

I'm saying since Shaun can't come here, by all means Archie can go over there and help keep this place clean.

Yeah, Go over to RFT where your posts get edited, Your title gets edited, and no matter what you post Shaunna and the Nutette's will harass you constantly. Then when you actually prove Shaunna is lying and make a fool out of him, He'll have his Admin buddy ban you.

Again, Just ignore him. It doesn't take much to see what an idiot he really is.

BTW ~ Trying to reason with an obsessive and pathetic person like Shaunna is like trying to teach a pig to sing, It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

[This message has been edited by Oreif (edited 03-17-2008).]

crzyone

MAR 17, 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:
my main connecting thought is, "how a N* low dyno runs were somehow dealt with soft gloves (due to some issues he's stated)

I went to the dyno for a tuning session. This means taking a car with a standalong ecu and having it tuned. They come with a base tune, and this particular one was nowhere close to where it should be. I expected to spend 2-3 hours on the dyno with a laptop fine tuning my engine to get the most potential possible @ $200/hr. What I thought was a really bad tune turned out to be 2 dead cylinders which became more aparent as time went on. The car was making more and more power but was becoming rougher and rougher. We started pulling injector plugs and found 2 dead cylinders.

The reason I did not fix the car at the dyno and continue is because I was booked in for a certain amount of time for tuning and that was it. Now I'm back at work and on my next days off I plan on going back with issues resolved and continue tuning. I won't stop until my car is making all the power it is supposed to be.

I am the only person running a Big Stuff 3 ecu on a northstar in a fiero. Its not like there are a lot of people that can give advice because nobody has experience with this computer. In hind sight, I should have installed a pre 2000 N* and ran a 7730 ecu. I suspect my problem is a coil, spark plug, wiring or ecu. It's electrical and will take time to narrow down. To pull my coil pack I have to drop the rear of my engine cradle to give me enough room to pull the coil pack off.

Archie, no video. I can only imagine why you want one, but here is a picture.

Archie

MAR 17, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Oreif:

Yeah, Go over to RFT where your posts get edited, Your title gets edited, and no matter what you post Shaunna and the Nutette's will harass you constantly. Then when you actually catch Shaunna lying and make a fool out of him, He'll have his Admin buddy ban you.

Again, Just ignore him. It doesn't take much to see what an idiot he really is.

Not to worry, I'm not about to go over there & go thru what you & the others did.

There's nothing to talk out anyway. He's not anyone that understands reason.

I think it's funny that he took your SN "Oreif" & no argues with himself.

Someday, he'll say the wrong thing to the wrong person.

What a dandy.

Archie

FieroJimmy

MAR 17, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:

Thanks. I hope to have it finished by the 25th.

Unfortunately I don't think I'll make the 25th. Are you going to make it out to Carlisle? I should definitely be there, it's practically in my back yard.

Coinage

MAR 17, 09:45 PM

Dude, it has been like 7 AND A HALF YEARS since i posted that quote from cliff, I would think you would atleast try something that was suggested by someone of equal public standing... 7 years and still the same thing is going on

I'll post this just incase you missed it... and it isnt only geared towards you but to everyone that gets involved in these

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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock on 07-27-2000 11:14 AM :

I appreciate you posting this information, Archie. But saying something like "And all of this was designed by someone some of you claim doesn't know what he's doing." will generate some flames ofcourse.
I'm not saying this warrants some of the replies you are getting, I'm just saying you're giving them an excuse for it.

So just ignore what you think are attacks - and only reply to serious inquiries. Likewise, if people feel they are attacked by Archie, ignore that as well. You'll see that suddenly things will become a whole lot more civilized.

So let's get back to the original topic, shall we? First one to reply with a flame is a rotten egg!