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| Landscaper Under Fire for Refusing to Work for Gays (Page 32/65) |
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Boondawg
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NOV 13, 08:02 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by isthiswhereiputausername?:
So people thinking homosexuality is wrong is stuck in the stone age?
People that have morals are stuck in the stone age? |
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No, I was referring to things we USED to think were right & wrong. Turned out WE were wrong. Used to marry little girls. Used to stone people. Used to beat women. Used to crucify people. Used to burn people at the stake.
We get smarter. I hope.
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isthiswhereiputausername?
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NOV 13, 08:02 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill: If you want a business then you have to deal WITH THE PUBLIC
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Actually as a business owner I do decide who I deal with.. always have and always will.
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84Bill
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NOV 13, 08:03 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick: On the contrary, this thread is revealing how much further we need to go to escape the dark ages.
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Actually way back in history gays were FAR more accepted than today.. Unacceptability has risen in proportion with christianity because they have strong values which counter popular belief. Drinking and fire arms and abortion are good examples of christian crusades.
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texasfiero
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NOV 13, 08:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill:
You do.. but if you have opinions against a gay lifestyles your BUSINESS had better serve gays as equally as you serve anyone else. OR ELSE your business may be sued in court.
You ARE entitled to your opinion John but if you use your business to propogate your hate then you may be in for a rude awakening.
Then YOU will fall.
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As long as we're speaking hypothetically, Bill, you own a very nice, exclusive restaurant. I'd like to sit in the most aesthetically pleasing area, but the sign says "NO Smoking". What are you going to do when I lite up?.
Additionally, I've come in wearing no shoes and no shirt, while your sign plainly states: "No Shirt - No Shoes - No Service!". But, it is my right to go without shoes and shirt. After all, that's the natural order. I was born without them.
Would you 'discriminate' against me, or, would you defend my 'right' to smoke and not wear the treads and threads.
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84Bill
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NOV 13, 08:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by isthiswhereiputausername?: Actually as a business owner I do decide who I deal with.. always have and always will. |
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Yup.. better be fair or you may find yourself like mom and pop landscaping.
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84Bill
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NOV 13, 08:05 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
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LOL!
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Patrick
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NOV 13, 08:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
Nothing ever changes...
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Cliff, many of us here in this thread understand completely what you're getting at. Unfortunately, many who NEED to see the point are blinded by their own insecurities. Sad but true.[This message has been edited by Patrick (edited 11-13-2006).]
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jstricker
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NOV 13, 08:07 PM
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Cliff, this is beneath you, and you know it.
A completely fabricated news story that is in no way related is ludicrous.
To accept the premise that homosexual lifestyles and race are the same things is to say that humans have no control over their natural instincts and that simply is not a fact. If I have to accept that because one is homosexual they "can't control it" then I must be allowed to succumb to MY natural instincts which is to mate with any female that I feel attracted to in order to carry on my bloodline, and I can't be faulted or discriminated against for doing it.
Just like the ANIMALS in my pasture do.
John Stricker
| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
Nothing ever changes.
Landscaper Under Fire for Refusing to Work for Blacks By MONICA RHOR, AP
BATON ROUGE (Nov. 10, 1860) - A few short months ago, Cotton Guy was just a mom-and-pop landscaping business that promoted itself as "making Baton Rouge beautiful since 1791" and promised to treat its customers with respect and honesty. Since then, though, the business has been vilified around the United States as a bunch of bigots because its Roman Catholic owners refused to do work for a black couple. Michael Jones and Feya Smith, a black couple requesting bids for a landscaping job at their new house, received a polite - and, well, honest - post from Sabrina Farber, a co-owner of Cotton Guy: "I need to tell you that we cannot meet with you because we choose not to work for colored people."
Stunned, Jones forwarded the post to 200 friends, asking them not to patronize Cotton Guy and urging them to pass the word on to friends and family. "I'm still shocked by the ignorance that exists in today's society," Jones said in his post. And word was indeed passed on - as fast as the post roads could carry it. Within months, the post had been forwarded to thousands of people around the United States, and quickly became the subject of heated and often ugly debates on gatherings. Because of the furor, a professional association of landscapers created a nondiscrimination policy.
A messageboard on the Cotton Guy building, normally reserved for discussions about landscaping and shrubbery, was bombarded with angry comments and venomous attacks from as far away as Pennsylvania. Some people attacked the Farbers' beliefs, threatened the couple and their five children, and said they ought to be lynched. Others condemned blacks as sinners headed toward damnation. Farber, whose company's messageboard has long included quotes from the Old Testament and an address of a fraternity that opposes black people, said she was shocked by the reaction. "It was just our intent to uphold our rights as small business owners to choose our clientele," she said. "All the hate, the threats of lynching my children, the threats of me being murdered, came out because of a very businesslike straightforward post I sent. The crowd of tolerance and diversity is not so tolerant."
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84Bill
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NOV 13, 08:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by texasfiero: As long as we're speaking hypothetically, Bill, you own a very nice, exclusive restaurant. I'd like to sit in the most aesthetically pleasing area, but the sign says "NO Smoking". What are you going to do when I lite up?.
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THAT has nothing to do with this issue. Pole smokers have nothing to do with ciggarette smokers.
| quote | Additionally, I've come in wearing no shoes and no shirt, while your sign plainly states: "No Shirt - No Shoes - No Service!". But, it is my right to go without shoes and shirt. After all, that's the natural order. I was born without them.
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Again that has nothing to do with this ussue.....
| quote | Would you 'discriminate' against me, or, would you defend my 'right' to smoke and not wear the treads and threads.
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Smoking and aparel though can be used as bias are not discrimination. If you are NAKED I can not enter your house and repair your computer until you are "properly dressed" What that is I have no idea but I don't want to see your johnson so cover it up or I wonte be fixing your computer.
Hairy chest... well 
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jstricker
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NOV 13, 08:09 PM
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If it was so "accepted" then tell me, Bill, which civilization allowed and encouraged GAY MARRIAGE?
John Stricker
| quote | Originally posted by 84Bill:
Actually way back in history gays were FAR more accepted than today.. Unacceptability has risen in proportion with christianity because they have strong values which counter popular belief. Drinking and fire arms and abortion are good examples of christian crusades. |
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