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crzyone
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MAR 17, 07:01 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Archie:
BTW: where did you get that 505hp number?
Archie
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Well gee, I dunno? How about GM's website?
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/
| quote | | Inside every Z06 is an LS7 aluminum-block 7.0 Liter V8 that produces a Society of Automotive Engineers-certified 505 hp and 470 lb.-ft. of torque. Hand-built at the GM Performance Build Center in Wixom, Mich., the LS7 engine contains a litany of racing-derived components, such as an eight-quart dry-sump lubrication system, titanium valves and connecting rods, forged-steel crankshaft with six-bolt main bearings, high-profile cam, and Computer Numerical Controlled (CNC) machined heads for better air/fuel flow. Even with its impressive performance, the engine does not incur a federal government gas-guzzler penalty. |
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[This message has been edited by crzyone (edited 03-17-2008).]
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crzyone
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MAR 17, 07:13 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by madcurl:
Okay, here comes the Insurgents. Tell me, are "they" trying to help here or is it too bash Dave and V8Archie at the same time?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYwwnzMjRNU
Keep in mind, I'm not a engine guru, just a person who likes a tweaked out Fiero.
Okay now, please explain your "theory" as to "why" the bashing? |
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Theory? Ok, I'll do my best. A 330hp crate engine went to a dyno and made 238hp at the wheels.
I would say that is a low number, but again it has a TPI intake and doesn't breathe up top. Maybe with more information from different crate engines and dynos we can asume that a TPI manifold will lose power on anything that needs air to support 300+ hp at the flywheel. I would say his dyno was helpful, maybe not the power he expected but it's still good info. I'm not one of the people making negative comments.
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crzyone
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MAR 17, 07:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Archie:
I'll tell you why, it's because you're afraid of him & you don't want him to post a video about your piss poor showing on the dyno.
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I would say you are the one that is afraid of him. Stop speaking to him through PFF and confront him yourself. You are both throwing snowballs from your snow forts like little kids.
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Formula88
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MAR 17, 07:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by crzyone:
I would say you are the one that is afraid of him. Stop speaking to him through PFF and confront him yourself. You are both throwing snowballs from your snow forts like little kids. |
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What kind of confrontation would you like to see? What words could possibly be said by either person to make anything change? Are you suggesting they fight it out physically? Perhaps dueling pistols at dawn?
One day Shaunbag is going to stalk the wrong person and end up a statistic.
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crzyone
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MAR 17, 07:27 PM
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I'm saying since Shaun can't come here, by all means Archie can go over there and help keep this place clean. 90% of the trash talk threads are about him and Shaun anyways.
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Archie
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MAR 17, 07:36 PM
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Ok, so you can go to the GM website & post up information from there to support the point you're trying to make at the time.
But, V-8 Fiero owners can't post up information from the GM website to describe the engine they put in their Fiero without beginning to "Bug" you?
Maybe you should find something better to do with your time. You could go out & get your car running. Or you could go over to RFT & brag about your conquests here. Or you you could just ignore the things that "bug" you after all "It's only the Internet, ignore it".
BTW, you didn't answer my other questions & just like you, denmanding that everyone must make their post comply with your orders, I demand answers.........
I'll repeat them for you.......
So since you & a couple of others have decided that your the policemen on the internet & are here to wipe out all the fraud, why don't you call that person out on his harassment which is also illegal?
I'll tell you why, it's because you're afraid of him & you don't want him to post a video about your piss poor showing on the dyno.
BTW: do you have any video of that dyno run?
Also how come you're ignoring the last post I made? Heck "It's only the Internet, don't let what someone else posts bug you so much. Just ignore it, they'll go away". How come you can't do what you advise others to do?
Archie[This message has been edited by Archie (edited 03-17-2008).]
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madcurl
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MAR 17, 07:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by crzyone:
I'm not one of the people making negative comments. |
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Yet, you stated that "they" RTF where very heplful and understanding when your HP numbers were low. So, were's that "helpfulness" and understanding when it came to Dave's dyno numbers? Clearly, the evidence from Dave's thread pointed to the reason "why" the numbers were low a year earlier, so how did RFT mis this point?
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FieroJimmy
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MAR 17, 08:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by madcurl:
Clearly, the evidence from Dave's thread pointed to the reason "why" the numbers were low a year earlier, so how did RFT mis this point? |
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I don't see ALL of RFT "bashing" Dave's car. I see one, and maybe two people (in the posted link) making disparaging comments. There are more than 30 regular, active posters over "there", and only a couple "bashers." Please don't lump all of us in with the few who are.
Dave also didn't post over there looking for answers as to why the output was low. Looking at the AFR and HP graphs, it seems pretty obvious why the power is down. His chip is set on the rich side. He also seemed to have a plan in hand for resolving the issue:
| quote | Originally posted by DrCPU:
The technician who did the testing said the HP would be a "substantial" amount better with a closer air/fuel mix at 13. Who knows. I guess I'll send a copy to Archie so he can fire it off to the guy who programmed the PROM I have in the car. |
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Taking that fuel out should show a considerable improvement. The downside to mailorder-type tuning is that the person doing the tuning has to make certain assumptions about how the engine is set up. In this instance, the tuner may have burned his standard Camaro chip (for that motor) that is setup for long tube headers. Properly tuned, long-tube headers will vastly improve cylinder scavenging, and during overlap can actually help suck intake charge into the cylinder. The effect is significantly lessened with shortie-style headers, and virtually eliminated with cast manifolds.
Also, the 330hp crate motor was likely rated with long tubes, as that is the more common way they are installed.
(As an aside, madcurl, you have some great ideas for your cars, I'm not sure if I've mentioned that in any of your threads or not. I love the one that has the 350Z(?) rear window.)
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HI-TECH
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MAR 17, 08:40 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by ???????:fwd tranny is going to lose 10-15% through the drive train |
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i'm sorry why do people think that HP loss though the transmission is a linear effect? if it takes lets say 15hp to turn a transmission with a stock motor then why dose it all of the sudden go up when you mate it to a more higher horsepower motor? i just don't get it....[This message has been edited by HI-TECH (edited 03-17-2008).]
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madcurl
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MAR 17, 08:49 PM
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Not much bashing on RTF of Dave's car now, but the video demonstrates the connection piece. A poor taste in conduct with a title that clearly states, "Cletus Sucks" in the opening title. However, my main connecting thought is, "how a N* low dyno runs were somehow dealt with soft gloves (due to some issues he's stated) vs. how Dave's dyno run was harshly criticized despite Dave's explanation; yet the video clearly show their intent.....bashing of Archie.
| quote | Originally posted by FieroJimmy:
(As an aside, madcurl, you have some great ideas for your cars, I'm not sure if I've mentioned that in any of your threads or not. I love the one that has the 350Z(?) rear window.) |
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Thanks. I hope to have it finished by the 25th.[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 03-17-2008).]
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