28 dead (18 children) at an elementary school (Page 3/15) TheDigitalAlchemist DEC 14, 03:35 PM Trying not to read about it too much, but I heard the guy's mom was a teacher there, and that she might have been one of the victims... she might have been his target? GAH, then he offed himself. More than that asshat joker guy did... but if you have beef w./ your mother, you take her out + 20+ others?!?!?! GAH>>>>>>>>>> When I add up the crazies + the pervs + the various "bad" folks, I end up with very few "good" folks. SOOOO sad, those poor kids + their families... UGH dsnover DEC 14, 03:36 PM quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: anti gun laws make people with guns stand out. when will you people get this? Over here you carry a gun you got som explaining to do. anti murder laws make people who murder stand out. when will you people get this? Over here, you murder someone you got some explaining to do. See how that works? Red88FF DEC 14, 03:37 PM quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: I do like the idea of schools requiring a minimum of 50% armed staff. I like it, and if they can’t or won’t, fire them. Pyrthian DEC 14, 03:38 PM quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: People are going to kill regardless, ask China last week when 22 kids were stabbed by a crazed man with a knife. If someone wants to kill someone else they don't even need a weapon, should we outlaw hands too? Metal detectors are all fine and dandy, now you have someone inside your school with a ceramic knife that is going to, you guessed it, kill people. OKC bombing, the dude used a Ryder truck filled with amonium nitrate and diesel fuel to level a block, lets outlaw Ryder trucks. An armed teacher would be an idea however in a time of panic your average school teacher will fail and could possibly make the situation worse. A combination of a closed facility, an armed SRO officer and a parent volunteer security watch couldn't hurt. Also, Ryan Lanza (the killer) went to his mothers classroom and shot her several times in the head. Even if there were armed staff the possibility of a stray bullet striking a pupil in a totally different classroom would be too high. People with guns are efficient at killing people, they are easy to learn and require little knowledge to operate them and be lethal, this is why they are chosen to kill with. Guns are not bad and I personally think the laws pertaining them should be more relaxed, assholes with guns ruin it for the rest of the responsible gun owners. while I agree - how many of them Stabbed China Kids are dead? and, I say that about drinking & driving too - the few who cant handle it wreck it for those who can. "taking away" guns is no answer. never is. and, also why it wont happen. it cant. guns are WAY to simple to make. I can go to Lowes, and have all I need to make a simple gun. with a mill & lathe - I can expand to some mighty fine weapons. they are less complicated than a carburetor. by far. and, ammo is not to tough either - but it is the harder part of the equation. Purple86GT DEC 14, 03:39 PM quote Originally posted by dsnover: http://newyork.cbslocal.com...ew-safety-protocols/ [QUOTE] CBS 2 has obtained the letter sent home to parents describing the new safety protocols: Dear Members of our Sandy Hook Family, Our district will be implementing a security system in all elementary schools as part of our ongoing efforts to ensure student safety. As usual, exterior doors will be locked during the day. Every visitor will be required to ring the doorbell at the front entrance and the office staff will use a visual monitoring system to allow entry. Visitors will still be required to report directly to the office and sign in. If our office staff does not recognize you, you will be required to show identification with a picture id. Please understand that with nearly 700 students and over 1000 parents representing 500 SHS families, most parents will be asked to show identification. Doors will be locked at approximately 9:30 a.m. Any student arriving after that time must be walked into the building and signed in at the office. Before that time our regular drop-off procedures will be in place. I encourage all parents to have their children come to school and return home on the bus and to remain in school for the entire school day. The beginning and ending of our school day are also important instructional times and therefore we want all our students to reap the benefits of full participation in our program. We need your help and cooperation for our system to work effectively. Our office staff is handling multiple tasks. Though they will work diligently to help you into the building as quickly as possible, there may be a short delay until someone can view you on the handset and allow you to come in electronically. There are times during the day when office personnel are on the telephone, addressing student concerns, or in the copy room; there are other times when only one person is in the front office. Please help our staff by identifying yourself and provide your child’s name. Keep in mind we will be following our district guidelines which may need revision once we test the system. Please know your involvement continues to be critical to our school’s effectiveness and your child’s success. We continue to encourage and value your presence in our classrooms and are counting on your cooperation with the implementation of this safety initiative. Sincerely, Mrs. Hochsprung [/QUOTE] Way different than what we have here. Buzzed in to a secure locked down area, then the admin of the school will call your child to the secure area or escort you in if you are expected. From outside, to secure area. Not direct access to school wonce someone identifies you as a teacher's son and unlocks the front door. Red88FF DEC 14, 03:40 PM quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: anti gun laws make people with guns stand out. when will you people get this? Over here you carry a gun you got som explaining to do. Well good for you. Not ever going to happen in the USA no matter how much poop is flung about. Purple86GT DEC 14, 03:42 PM quote Originally posted by dsnover: anti murder laws make people who murder stand out. when will you people get this? Over here, you murder someone you got some explaining to do. See how that works? Awesome system! Too bad id doesn't work out for the first guy who is murdered by the bad guy. Also easy access to a gun gives you little time to reconsider your actions. Just grab you gun and go settle that score! Tony Kania DEC 14, 03:43 PM quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: anti gun laws make people with guns stand out. when will you people get this? Over here you carry a gun you got som explaining to do. Moron that later. I will get it when the CRIMINALS start obeying the law. You sir, are retarted, and one who is making himself a target. Just how do you protect your family? Call 911? Yeah, that response time will make you feel all warm and cuddely. Outlaw guns? What is next? Sticks? Rocks? Perhaps we should all recieve sporks instead of real cutlery? If you feel that you do not need a gun, then do not put your ill advised beliefs upon me. That is just stupid thinking that that person would have not done some harm without a gun. It is not the inatimant object that causes death. It is the flesh that holds such weapon. Toddster DEC 14, 03:44 PM My God ! Kids? Cowards don't come any lower than this. And now to pile the Gun Control Idiots on top of an American Tragedy as well? I guess they call them idiots for a reason, they just don't know when to shut the F*** up. Tony Kania DEC 14, 03:45 PM quote Originally posted by Purple86GT: Awesome system! Too bad id doesn't work out for the first guy who is murdered by the bad guy. Also easy access to a gun gives you little time to reconsider your actions. Just grab you gun and go settle that score! No score to settle. You see, anti gun folks, much like yourself, see it as a bad thing that we are allowed to have weapons. But, you also feel the need to coddle the perpatrtaitors. No need for a victim to protect themselves. Geeze!