Who is waiting for a harness from Loyde Rascoe at Fastfieros? (Page 3/49) jscott1 JUN 23, 10:38 AM Revin raises a good point...not that I have had any wiring problems with my swap, but when I take it in for emissions and it fails I don't know how to fix it. I have a guy that is good and can work on it, but if I ever have a wiring issue I am screwed. Next swap I am going to do all the wiring and the programming, so that I will be able to troubleshoot it. Maybe I'll even get smart enough to build harnesses for other people. tuner2m6t JUN 23, 03:52 PM SO what you are saying is because he spent the money he is wrong and should just let Loyd take his money and run ? Some people don't like to do wiring or don't understand it. Not there fault. As for time being taken up people have jobs and stuff to worry about so if it's there chose to have something done for them I don't see a problem there. Still this does not give loyd the right to do this over and over again. As for the OP being in a hurry I don't think it's to much to ask to have a harness made in a timely fashion considering the amount of money paid for it. And some people like to build a project car in a short amount of time instead of taking years. Loyd is running a business so customers should come first and if he can't take on that many orders at once then he should be honest with people and tell them that he has a lot going on and if they are not in a hurry to get the parts then he would be more then happy to make them. Point is nobody running a business should just take the money and not produce a product for the customer. PERIOD. No matter the amount of time has passed the customer should still see something for the money that they spent. Money isn't something you can just be like " Oh this guy just took $600 from me but oh well it's money I should just let it go." Will-Martin JUN 23, 09:21 PM quote Originally posted by tuner2m6t: SO what you are saying is because he spent the money he is wrong and should just let Loyd take his money and run ? Some people don't like to do wiring or don't understand it. Not there fault. As for time being taken up people have jobs and stuff to worry about so if it's there chose to have something done for them I don't see a problem there. Still this does not give loyd the right to do this over and over again. As for the OP being in a hurry I don't think it's to much to ask to have a harness made in a timely fashion considering the amount of money paid for it. And some people like to build a project car in a short amount of time instead of taking years. Loyd is running a business so customers should come first and if he can't take on that many orders at once then he should be honest with people and tell them that he has a lot going on and if they are not in a hurry to get the parts then he would be more then happy to make them. Point is nobody running a business should just take the money and not produce a product for the customer. PERIOD. No matter the amount of time has passed the customer should still see something for the money that they spent. Money isn't something you can just be like " Oh this guy just took $600 from me but oh well it's money I should just let it go." I agree, I got Loyde to do my engine swap because I had already tried to do a Northstar and got frustrated by the electronics, more specifically the lack of an aftermarket ignition/fuel management system. I could have spent the time to learn about all of that, but I have a family and a job, and about 15 more irons in the fire that are better uses of my time. I am a patient person as long as the final product is perfect and for what its worth, I spent a whole lot more with Loyde than 600 bucks. But then I tried to do a choptop myself too and wound up paying Archie to do a choptop on my Formula after I found out how much of a PITA it was. Archie banged it out in all of 3 weeks so I can see where most people waiting on Loyde are coming from - I'm right there with you since it is going on 3 years since I have driven my car on the streets. --Will jscott1 JUN 23, 10:22 PM quote Originally posted by Will-Martin: But then I tried to do a choptop myself too and wound up paying Archie to do a choptop on my Formula after I found out how much of a PITA it was. Archie banged it out in all of 3 weeks so I can see where most people waiting on Loyde are coming from - I'm right there with you since it is going on 3 years since I have driven my car on the streets. --Will Ironic that your past and present chop top are sharing space. I feel your pain as I'm trying to delcare my chop top operational after 4 years. muttly69gto JUL 22, 07:17 PM Anyone out there with new updates or more horror stories. I started a project with Loyde coming close to 2 years ago and sent him the money in Feb '07 after receiving an email the harness was "ready to ship". I have repeatedly tried to call him, but he never answers his phone and apparently does not retrieve his messages because there is no room to leave one. He also has not returned any of my emails. My last communication from Loyde was around New Years and was told also that he had no money to return to me and was unwilling to return the product I sent him to do the harness. This leaves me stuck with my son now going to college in a few weeks and his car remains under cobwebs in the corner of our shed. I have also checked with the Better Business Bureau and he has 4 claims against him that he has (surprise) not responded to. I have been in business for 20+ years and have never had a claim against me let alone 4 of them in a year!!!!!!! Muttly top-dawg JUL 29, 12:11 AM September will be three years for me… Originally it was supposed to be a couple months. Then a couple more months…three years worth. What upsets me the most after reading this thread is that Lyode has been promising people “a couple months” while mine had already been sitting there for 1-2 years untouched. It’s one thing to be disorganized, make bad choices, or just plain get screwed by events that happen in your life. But when you know you have unfinished work piled up from YEARS prior, how can you tell someone “a couple months”?? I’m not saying these things to bash Lyode. From the conversations I’ve had with him, his forum posts, what others have said about his work, etc. He’s probably one of the most knowledgeable in the Fiero world. I’ve pretty much given up on Lyode delivering and I’m starting to look into other vendors. Suggestions? Injection Technologies anyone? I have an all original, never wrecked, 88GT that lived its whole life in Arizona. While it needs some love from being baked in the AZ sun, there’s not a spec of rust underneath. Every piece of suspension has been rebuilt, low mileage 3800sc, cam, headers, etc… It pisses me off when I have to walk past it every morning in my garage. I’ve lost interest in the project and want to be finished. Matthew_Fiero JUL 29, 01:15 AM Last year I had him program my 3800 PCM and got it back in a reasonable time... but since then I've asked for a re-program to add the boost sol. back in but never a reply back... FIEROFLYER JUL 29, 11:00 AM I do not understand how this can happen so easily to so many people and yet nothing is done about it. If a local shop or legitimate business ripped off that many people the owner would be out of business and most likely in jail. I can see where it is possible to fall behind doing wiring harnesses as I have a few times but I am talking a few weeks or maybe a month or so but not years. An honest person no matter how financially he is screwed personally will not keep taking peoples money when he knows he can not possibly provide the service or product in an agreed amount of time or in this case in any amount of time as I doubt he plans on ever honoring these deals. To date I have made quite a few harnesses for people tired of waiting for Lloyd and not being able to contact him to get back their money, the original 3800 harness they sent him and the original Fiero harness. Leaving them out of money and parts needed to finish off their swap. The part I really do not like is how some one comes forward after years of being ripped off and the guilty person's lackies jump all over the guy defending the person who has ripped the guy off. Basically this crap should not be allowed to happen and the forum members should not be defending some one who has been proven to be a crook. Dan darkhorizon JUL 29, 11:29 AM quote I do not understand how this can happen so easily to so many people and yet nothing is done about it. Welcome to the internet. He has a webpage, and it shows that he has done projects, pretty much all he needs to bait people into sending him thousands of dollars. InTheLead JUL 29, 01:00 PM quote Originally posted by FIEROFLYER: I do not understand how this can happen so easily to so many people and yet nothing is done about it. If a local shop or legitimate business ripped off that many people the owner would be out of business and most likely in jail. I can see where it is possible to fall behind doing wiring harnesses as I have a few times but I am talking a few weeks or maybe a month or so but not years. An honest person no matter how financially he is screwed personally will not keep taking peoples money when he knows he can not possibly provide the service or product in an agreed amount of time or in this case in any amount of time as I doubt he plans on ever honoring these deals. To date I have made quite a few harnesses for people tired of waiting for Lloyd and not being able to contact him to get back their money, the original 3800 harness they sent him and the original Fiero harness. Leaving them out of money and parts needed to finish off their swap. The part I really do not like is how some one comes forward after years of being ripped off and the guilty person's lackies jump all over the guy defending the person who has ripped the guy off. Basically this crap should not be allowed to happen and the forum members should not be defending some one who has been proven to be a crook. Dan Exactly what I was thinking. Very well put.