Levi's sports white knots in support of gay marriage (Page 3/31)
Boondawg MAY 28, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by avengador1:

Besides the Church (and that one too is doubtful), who gets hurt by Gay marriage?



Isn't it about a "spouse" being allowed to reap the benfits of the "husband's" assets?
Insurance, work benefits, medical, etc.?

Insurance companies are the ones who think they will be hurt by gay marrage?

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Slayre MAY 28, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by frontal lobe:


It is an intentional attempt to blur the lines and definitions and equate two homosexuals living together with a marriage of a man and a woman. They are not equal. They are not equivalent. They are different.

Two unmarried heterosexuals living together does not equate to a marriage, either.


From a legal standpoint, I don't care what society votes to do.

From a societal standpoint, definitions are important.

The DEFINITION of the word marriage is a man and a woman who have made the commitment to each other of a life-long, exclusive union. (doesn't change the definition because more then half the people that enter it don't stick to the commitment).

2 heterosexuals living together doesn't rise to that definition.

2 people of the same sex PHYSICALLY CAN'T rise to that definition.

And lest anyone get ticked at me, nobody asked me what the definition of marriage is. It existed for THOUSANDS of years before I came on the scene.

But just because 2 homosexuals want to live together and maybe they make a life long commitment, they don't get to toss out THOUSANDS OF YEARS of a definition to fit what they are doing.

My suggestion to homosexuals--get your OWN word for what you are doing.

But that isn't anti-homosexual. That is for ANYone who wants to try to change the definition of ANY historically long held word.

Like Bill Clinton, for example. Depends on what the definition of "is" is. Well, it is the same definition it has been for THOUSANDS of years, Bill.

Words have ESTABLISHED meanings. You don't get to change the word and its definition, no matter how many white knots you put on a pair of blue jeans. Sorry.




Well said.
Jake_Dragon MAY 28, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Slayre:
Well said.



+1

What does wearing irregular pants mean?
fierobear MAY 28, 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by tutnkmn:


Okay

Keep the word marriage. A civil union/partnership with legal rights the same as marriage would be fine. Keep the religious/sacred overtones to hetero couples, that's fine. Problem is most civil unions are not equal in rights of survivorship, personal/real property ownership and many other protections offered by "marriage."

I'll call the new unions, oh say.....................................martage. Maybe, ummmm.............................mortage. Oh, too close to mortgage.



Wait a moment...you mean if you're married in courthouse, instead of a church or other religious establishment, you don't have the same rights?
Jake_Dragon MAY 28, 07:05 PM
Can a Church be compelled to Marry someone if they don't want to? If its against their religion can a Church just ask the couple to find somewhere else to get married?
If the answer to those 2 questions doesn't deny those that attend and run the Church their rights to observe their religious beliefs then I could care less.
Slayre MAY 28, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Phranc:

Marriage means different things in different religions. But of course only the mainstream christian religions definition is being pushed. And not all christian churches see marriage as one man and one woman. If a church is willing to marry them then the state should afford them every right they would any other couple married by any other church. But this argument isn't about fairness or equality for most gay marriage opponents. Its all about making sure their christian dogmas are what everyone else is held to. Typical christian power play for more dictation over government.



Christians at it again eh Phranc? I'm begining to think you might have a complex.
But seriously, there are gay people of all creed and color. It is nothing more than a sexual preference. ( It IS a choice ) . You want to change the rules and definitions just because of your sexual preference? I heard someone today on the radio ( talk radio on AM )say the reason for the gay agenda to have same sex marriage more accepted in society was to ease the guilt of being gay. Im not sure if I agree with that or not but it is an interesting point of view.
avengador1 MAY 28, 07:26 PM
Gays wanting to get married has nothing to do with religion or it's rules, it all about equal rights under the law. Again I ask, who gets hurt if they are married? The states that allow this have not suffered because of it, as a matter of fact they have profited from it.
When I was united with my spouse, in the Church, it was called Holy Matrimony, not holy marriage. If people are going to get hung up over the use of the word marriage, they are hypocrites. Marriage is not only the union of a male and female whatever, it is the union of two things to create one thing out of those two. ie Hydrogen and Oxygen to make water, and that one is a threesome.

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CoryFiero MAY 28, 07:34 PM
Who gets hurt if I marry my dog?
Who gets hurt if I marry my sister?
Who gets hurt if I marry six women?
Who gets hurt if I marry 2 men and 4 women?
Who gets hurt if I marry a lizard?


I hope when they make a gay marriage law they can make one for everyone with other unnatural fetishes as well.

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avengador1 MAY 28, 07:37 PM
Actually, depending on which country you live in, all of the above are possible, except for marrying the lizard.
CoryFiero MAY 28, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by avengador1:

Actually, depending on which country you live in, all of the above are possible, except for marrying the lizard.



haha, there is a lizard on my window. My point basically was it is unnatural. It doesn't really matter if it doesn't hurt anyone. None of those other things would hurt anyone either. (Unless it was a big lizard of course)


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But what they all do is destroy the word "marriage".

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