Lopsided chops? (Page 3/103)
madcurl AUG 27, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by jmbishop:

You don't quite do you? This was a nice clean thread, now you've come and muddied the water.



As for you starting another thread regarding Archie's possible "flaws" I find it reckless and creates animosity among the ranks. Although, I have a few relatives and friends in TX, but thanks to you and Mstangbware and your self-righteousness by critiquing every inch that Archie has created for his customers and me why would I want to subject myself to that kind of hatred.

Mark my words, "I will never bring any of my Fieros to a Fiero show in TX" for I'm sure you wouldn't loose any sleep. Therefore, I’d rather by-pass TX and head straight to FL and attend Daytona Fiero show. There my car and I would be welcomed without somebody coming over with a ruler to measure something that is imaginary 1/6th off.

Note to self; When traveling through TX, don't think of Bush, but rather think of Mstangbware and jmbishop.


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"by-pass TX cause, Mstangbware and jmbishop have imaginary rulers"

[This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 08-27-2008).]

Hulki U. My-BFF AUG 27, 02:44 PM
Wow, I am really puzzled by this thread. Where are the ACTUAL customers complaining about dimensions being off? If none of the CUSTOMERS are complaining, then neither should anyone else. The work Archie does for the Fiero community is nothing short of amazing.

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[This message has been edited by Hulki U. My-BFF (edited 08-27-2008).]

jscott1 AUG 27, 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:

Mark my words, "I will never bring any of my Fieros to a Fiero show in TX" for I'm sure you wouldn't loose any sleep. Therefore, I’d rather by-pass TX and head straight to FL and attend Daytona Fiero show.





Oh man that hurts, punish the whole state because of a disagreement with a few? The state of Texas still welcomes all chop tops.
joshua riedl AUG 27, 04:04 PM
For the purposes of giving those who want to do their own chops a head start I'll explain a few things about how I did mine. For those that don't know I have done 2 now. My first one I measured before I cut and it came out like crap on the windshield portion. Couldn't get a decent measurement and ended up cutting it back apart and rewelding it. The second chop I didn't measure anything before I cut. I just cut off the roof where I wanted and started fitting it back together. I leaned the windshield back using an angle finder and got the A-pillars within 1 degree. Figured it was close enough since I can lean on the bumper and probably change it 3 degrees. The back is easier to get a measurement because there is a straight edge right below the decklid. The problem with the back was getting the rear hoop to line up to the roof. I'm talking about fiberglass parts now. The hard top roof has a bubble in the middle and even on a stock fiero you can see the roof angles don't line up too well. I ended up grinding the metal mounting pads down to almost nothing to get the front of the roof panel to sit lower. No sense in chopping if your roof is on stilts I figured. when I set the rear hoop section on the outside lines flowed well but when standing back there appeared to be a dip because of the bubble in the roof. My fix was to use rubber blocks in the center and bolt the sides down. Now I'm confident my roof has better lines than a stock fiero. It's not perfect, these are fieros after all, but I did my best to blend in the flaws and take attention away from things I couldn't do anything about.
pumpkincarriage AUG 27, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by joshua riedl:
...when I set the rear hoop section on the outside lines flowed well but when standing back there appeared to be a dip because of the bubble in the roof...




I wonder if that is the cause of the wobble I've noticed? Interesting indeed.
CenTexIndy AUG 27, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by madcurl:

Mark my words, "I will never bring any of my Fieros to a Fiero show in TX" for I'm sure you wouldn't loose any sleep.



Ouch. That's very unfair. There are a LOT of Texas Fiero drivers who would welcome those who want to come down with open arms.

That statement is really really unfair to the other number of Fiero drivers in our great state.

GTGeff AUG 27, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by jmbishop:

Since we can't stay on topic in the glass window thread I have decided to start a new thread in hopes that we can stop cluttering the other thread. So far its been "he said she said", Madcurl has ignored my suggestions to give us some proof that at least some of his chops are symetrical, and MustangsBware has some how been accused of somehow not taking care of Wills car.


Right now the closest we have to a answer was provided by jscott1

Unfortunately this is not definitive enough, the only way this issue will get closure is to break out the measuring tape on the cars said to be off.




I have an extra long t-square and a carpenters level, so I am going to borrow a laser transit from a friend and use a micrometer from work so I can get all these proper measurements this long holiday weekend because I have nothing better to do with my time than help someone with their own personal vendetta against another member of this Fiero community. At least by appearances there seems to be a desire to bash someone else's work. Besides, all you boys are old enough to fight your own battles. Jonathan, can you get some NASA computer time to calculate all the raw data once I have? NOT! Per a pervious comment above, the "B" pillar windows are add-ons and should not be a factor in the supposed problem.

GIVE IT A REST ALREADY! It is my car and I don't have a problem with whatever the problem is supposed to be. This coming from the guy that just replaced the rear deck lid because the original had the rear wing holes patched in it that were visible from the underside. I also repainted because of small paint chips underneath the side trim pieces. You don't know me at all, so you do not understand how important a sense of symmetrical balance is to me when viewing objects. This being in design work I do for a living or laying out kitchen cabinets or hanging pictures at home. It drives my wife crazy. I have got the laser sights and measuring tools to prove it. Of coarse, this is my opinion and to me the only one that counts. And you know what they say about opinions and a$$ wholes. So say what you will. I DON'T CARE.

( As a additional to my comment in other thread, I just remembered that I don't know if my accident my be a contributing to this supposed "defect". The upper rear clip did take a beating by the drivers suicide door and cracked along trailing edge. All looks good to me now.)

If you want to invest in and start your own Fiero chop-top business, go right ahead if you can do it better. All the power to you. Knowing how Archie builds his chop tops and his acquired experience, I'll stick with him. I don't understand why this supposed defective doesn't show up in the fastbacks since the underlying frame and build methodology is the same.

Now if someone can come up with a solution to the glass windows I am willing to listen as long as I don't have to invest what I paid for the Stinger to begin with to get them. Oh yeah, I expect the look to be near perfection. At least my level of perfection, since I don't have the ability to pickup the Archie's supposed defect above. Everything, I have seen on this board to date says the window are not there yet. I have researched windows on my own locally and run into same issues with curvature. Until then, I will continue to show the car with the windows down. Typically, the car is a sunny day and show car driven only. When its not, the present windows suffice.

Rant over....good day.

Jeff
jscott1 AUG 27, 05:44 PM
Can't we all just get along??

I feel like I'm caught in the cross fire between a civil war here on PFF.

I consider Curley, Archie, Stephen, Blake, and others my friends. If you all want to disagree on the finer points of chop tops, that's cool. But let's not let this degrade into the chaos of name calling and bickering that used to be only caused by trolls.

I don't think Archie mean any offense to the North Texas Fiero Club, and I think we all want Will to get his car back.

None of our cars are perfect from the factory, and once you cut and weld on them....well let's just say you have to work with what you got. It is what it is.

Can we just let this thread fade into the atchives and get back to what we do best, and that is help each other to make our cars better???

"Nine years ago Cliff brought forth on this Earth, a new forum, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all persons are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that forum, or any forum so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. " Apologies to A. Lincoln.
GTGeff AUG 27, 05:47 PM
I'll second that motion. All in favor?
blakeinspace AUG 27, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Miach:
Nothing like 8 grown men arguing over which way it leans lol. After 3 hours of measuring, using the 1 foot by 1 foot template, and just plain pulling our hair out we finally discovered it was our eyes.



that's funny!...

Brother Soctt... loved the eye doodles... They said magical and strange things to me.

Curl... you and the cars have a lot of fans here. I can't think of anyone that wouldn't like to see you at some random gathering. (I promise I will use a plastic protractor. I kid, I kid...)