Sorry but i gotta ask, whats the story with Archie and Cletus? (Page 3/20)
Oreif JAN 07, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by darkhorizon:


People bash v8's, because they think it is the "ultimate" swap, not that it is a good motor swap, they push that its the only option that is the most economical and powerful. btw when we refer to v8, we usually mean v8 = SBC.

The facts are now, many v6's and non sbc swaps are availible that are much cheaper, powerful, more efficent, easier, and cheaper than v8's which means that on paper the v8 is not the only swap that can make your fiero run 13's. Another reason for this, is very poor performance measures are frequently reported by the owners of v8 swaps, and tris is commonly caused by poor setup which includes a funny exhaust setup archie offers.....

flame suit on

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It has nothing to do with anything you have posted.
The bashing is done by one person who crave's attention and someone wanted to know the story behind it.
We don't need to turn this into a 'Which engine swap is better" thread.
Everything was already discussed here:
http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/066364.html
Ditkaphile JAN 07, 01:46 PM
I used to occasionally go over to RFT to read Shawn's posts, purely for entertainment. But it got old really quick. The guy is extremely immature. Talk about kicking a dead horse...the guy just won't give it up. Even the people over there quit reacting to his childish antics, as evidenced by the fact that his threads don't get very far. It baffles me as to what kind of person he must be. I know he is easily the most annoying person that I have never met. If the guy had a V8 swap from Archie and it broke down or failed, that would be one thing. But he doesn't; he isn't even personally affected. Which just makes him look really stupid.

I think there is always room for debate, when it's done in a professional manner, and with the purpose of improvement in mind. None of the aforementioned apply to Shawn, unfortunately for him.
Fino JAN 07, 01:51 PM
Saxman will you please put some pants on Bill Clinton? Please???

I don’t like the negative vib from the 3800 guys and other swaps. I think everyone should install what they want but, running down the other guy will NEVER make you better. Can’t we all just get along? Saxman you are not going to believe what I am going to say right now but here goes. I originally did not want a V8 in my Feroce and thought some of the other swaps had some advantages over the V8. Now, if I get the money I will install a V8 the reason is simple. You just CANNOT beat the sound of the SBC no matter how fast you go. It is just &%^*$#* music.

Ed
Saxman JAN 07, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by Fino:
You just CANNOT beat the sound of the SBC no matter how fast you go. It is just &%^*$#* music.
Ed



That's "Sweet, sweet" music, right?

I know you got your 3.4 to sound almost as sweet as an SBC -and Lildevil and Soulcrusher have some good sounds, too! I like them all. My next one will be a 3800SC so I'll be able to speak for both sides.

(Sorry, Ed. Bill is not used to keeping his pants on )
jscott1 JAN 07, 04:57 PM
Shawn doesn't limit his bashing to V8 Fieros...he hates 4.9s, choptops or anything Archie has touched.

He acts very immature and the less said about him the better.
Fino JAN 07, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by Saxman:


(Sorry, Ed. Bill is not used to keeping his pants on )



That was good.


Ed

nfswift JAN 07, 05:47 PM
When it comes down to it, it was a pissing contest over who's idea was "better" which in this case, I guess, means who's is faster.
Everybody knows %#& talking the competition won't make you go faster, all that time spent dogging eachother and trading blows on the internet could have been spent turning wrenches if either of them was that serious about being on top. Archie has a huge base of people coming to him for work, and as long as he does, he's probably content, he has nothing to prove, just like Shaun is only tuning his own ride for kicks, and when he is satisfied with whatever he achieves, he probably believes he has nothing to prove to others either.

It's strange when enthusiasts divide themselves like this. Ultimately this hobby is about your own personality shaping your own car. There are those who enjoy still living in the muscle days swapping and tuning SBCs, and those who want the modern style blocks who chose DOHCs, or those who just can't stand their 2.8s swapping anything that will fit... it's all the same goal, to improve the car, and everybody has their own way of approaching it weather it's tame or drastic. I don't see why more people can't understand that.
josef644 JAN 07, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Saxman:


No, this is the shot of him


I got to play sax with him when I was stationed in Germany. The guy is actually pretty good!

True - breather time is good for everyone...



Where in Germany, I was In Old Heidelberg 1966-1968 HHC7th Army
bmwguru JAN 07, 07:50 PM
Personally, I like Archie and never had any problems with the stuff I purchased from him. Plus, my wife looks great in his car...lol.
I don't know what the problem is, but I find it to be annoying that I put a vid of my car on the internet and the only comments I got were about how slow it is and how much of a gas pig.
To me, anything slower than 10.99 is slow, so i guess my V8 Fiero is slow. I guess I'll just have to live with that....oh pity me
Dave

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Blacktree JAN 07, 08:07 PM
If I remember correctly, V8 Archie's real name is Cletus Archambault (sp?). I guess the RFT crowd think it's funny, which shows just how (im)mature they are. That type of taunting would be typical of a 2nd-grader, not an adult.