Does the 3800 have limp mode? (Page 3/6)
darkhorizon SEP 03, 12:20 PM
all I have to say is wow, so many things that are just blatantly wrong I don't want to respond.
darkhorizon SEP 03, 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by FastFieros:

Ok, this was really between me and Scott ( DarkHorizon )...

Chris ( eph_kay ) just has a problem that I was using as another way to exploit DarkHorizon hidden agenda in being mister cool 3800 know it all, when in fact he knows only what maybe he learned from the ONE 3800 he managed to install to his Fiero.

As to all the posts he continually makes about installing intercoolers, programming PCMs, installing 3800s as manuals and then converting them to automatics.... it just goes on and on... IF he did not make his little remarks about me along the way, I could care less about how he wants to deceive other people.

PFF is 80% DIY.... I would say that 40% of that DIY are first time people getting into engine swaps, and those people are also most likely new people to the Fiero community. I feel sorry for those that dont know who has the real practical application skills, and those that purely read hundreds of posts or worse, send emails in the background to other people asking for the answer to questions, then posting those answers like they really know something about it.

I went back to Scotts emails he sent me in 2006, and I answered a few. I knew he would never spend a dollar with me, but I still helped. Then he called several times and that got out of hand on how much he wanted to know by phone and take up all my time I should be working on paying customers. Then I happen to go over to http://www.3800pro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6523 and I see questions that he ask there, get the answers, and then come back over to PFF and try to be like he personally installed/did this to his own install, or someone else’s…

Everyone chill out and I will just sit back and read like I have been for several months now and work on my customer projects. I am just tired of Scott running me down when he used me as a resource, and then uses other forums to make himself out to be something he is not. I was wrong what I said to $Rich$ I see, and I remove that remark.. Pbody, I have no clue who is, and maybe I never will..

To Dan… as I have seen he does try to help people and builds a harness that certainly will start the engine and get the car running on a budget.. As has been posted even here on PFF by previous customers I have tried to get to everyone I can, but fail in some ways to not full fill a project to the end. Like building the wiring harness for everyone. I hate myself for that. Then someone would think I am trying to rip someone off… that is certainly not the case. I just try to help to much.

Thanks

Loyde




I am pretty sure he will remove this post too, so Ill save it.
FastFieros SEP 03, 12:38 PM
No.... no reason to remove that.. it is about you...I emailed you privately first to stop your crap about me on PFF and you basicly told me no... see you on PFF... your a POSER behind the keyboard. People who post one way on one forum > http://www.daddyfadiracing....be7434de4b430c88d05a

Go to another forum and ask questions because you do not know, do not understand, and then come here and post... like this >> http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/084614.html
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[quote] all of the IC installs I have done/seen have just used a chunk of clear tubing running vertical to the ground, an inline filler t somewhere around the highest point of the system, usually near the inlet of the pump.




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I dont remember doing anything with the "overflow" on my intercooler setups, so I would imagine that you can just disconnect that and have any "overflow" vent to the ground.




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Most systems I have setup use a coolant T fitting, and a length of hose stretching above the highest point of the system. A "ice box" setup is not usually needed, unless your doing something that could benefit greatly from it.

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Lets see some pics.. this is the day and age of get the camera or video on Utube or better PFF... educate us with all your installs... Scott....

I can back up my installs http://www.fastfieros.com/projects

Loyde
FastFieros SEP 03, 12:51 PM
And here is the one that finally pushed me to far Scott.... http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...2/HTML/083833-2.html


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Loyde also neglects to mention failures he has, I imagine it has somthing to do with trying to keep a reputation, when his reviews from most anyone that has dealt with him was bad.




Lets see this proof you have of my failures... give me a phone number or email address and I will personally deal with my failures and find the real truth... I am the one that spent money with Kinsler Fuel Injections for the testing on fuel pumps to know what works with what and what are the limits. In that fuel pump thread the performance fuel pump I use for IC stage 2 and 3 installs I do is even mentioned. That fuel pump is very quiet and has very good ratings up against the walbro 255... they are all good pumps... back in 2001-04 it was more difficult to get reasonable priced things.. you come along in 2006 and all the sudden you think installs can be $1500 turnkey.. Well, I would say maybe $2500 on the low side, but $5500 if you get all the things I put into it, but you are still short on workmanship unless you have done a few PERSONALLY and not just read about them.

Loyde
darkhorizon SEP 03, 01:06 PM
I could care less to validate myself, anyone here that knows me, knows I have close to 20 videos of my fieros doing EVERYTHING from running 12's, racing circle track, doing some 0-90 runs, and COUNTLESS pictures of my parts I have manufactured. I have proven twice now that doing a manual or auto swap, could EASILY be done for less than 1500 bucks.

I found that this year my time was better spent doing 3800 swaps into cars other than fieros, but there are a few fieros in the wings for the winter that will come around for swaps.
FastFieros SEP 03, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by darkhorizon:

I could care less to validate myself, anyone here that knows me, knows I have close to 20 videos of my fieros doing EVERYTHING from running 12's, racing circle track, doing some 0-90 runs, and COUNTLESS pictures of my parts I have manufactured. I have proven twice now that doing a manual or auto swap, could EASILY be done for less than 1500 bucks.

I found that this year my time was better spent doing 3800 swaps into cars other than fieros, but there are a few fieros in the wings for the winter that will come around for swaps.



All talk and no proof... you were so proud in the past...





No updates to this mess?

Loyde
darkhorizon SEP 03, 01:37 PM
nope
darkhorizon SEP 03, 01:52 PM


my car, and my friends manual swap that I setup with him, after doing my swap.





Most of those are old, because I could care less about flaunting my piece of junk that I tossed together with spare change literally. My auto swap is fun, but I just like driving it to and from school, it was just a daily driver project for me. I did alot of the technical work on the manual swap, and I worked on it with my friend for almost every second he worked on it, every idea and technique was mine, and mine alone due to my experience and resources. My friend, Justin, prefers not to post here, and is very good with cars, and technically has alot more fiero particular experience than I do, as he has owned 2 for 3 years, compared to me only having one for a little over a year.

My friend likes to play with his, so he does crap with it like this, where everything I have done and suggested has held up perfectly such as mounts, wiring, mounting, routing, it just happens that 4speed transmissions did not share my ambition.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/065409.html

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/065757.html

OK, I am done, as I really dont care.
toadson SEP 03, 01:54 PM
It seems many of us on the forum have gotten way too touchy. I have chatted numerous time with darkhorizon, and I wouldn't exactly call him a "know-it-all", or whatever you might have called him. He has done a few of these swaps himself and helped out his buddies on their swaps, and he just passes along some info that is good to know before i start my own L67 swap. As far as price goes, it all depends on how creative you can get and what deals there are to be found. Im picking up an L67 with tranny, ECM, wiring and axles for $600 tomorrow that I heard run. It has 104k miles on it, but for the price you can't beat it. Im swapping this into an 88 coupe and I am planning on taking my time with it. I will make up a lot of my own brackets, and some of the info Scott has provided will help me in designing them. This forum is a place for everyone to share their ideas, use other peoples ideas and so on. Everyone as of late seems to be focused on the fact that other people steal their ideas and then dont give them credit. What can you expect when you provide detailed info, along with pics, in a forum that anyone can publicly view? Yes, people will steal your ideas, but you will end up using someone elses ideas as well. The only swap I have ever done in a Fiero, was a 3.1 V6 from a 1990 Lumina. I really had no idea what I was getting myself into, but with the help of the forum members I was able to get it installed, wired, and running. It still has a few small quirks today, but it can make it from Point A to Point B no problem. Another swap I did, was install a 97 Camaro dash, along with the gauges. I never would have thought of swapping in a Camaro dash until I had seen others swapping in a Firebird dash, which was the same size as the Camaro dash. In doing so, I used a wiring diagram that JScott provided on the forum to wire up my gauges. What I'm trying to say, is that others peoples ideas can give you some ideas of your own, which you might pass on to more forum members. Whether or not someone has done X amount of swaps doesn't necessarily matter if they are providing solid information. I know a lot of things about different Fiero swaps, but havent done them myself. People learn through reading too, not just doing. Remember, this is a public forum and you have to take everything with a grain of salt. It is still in my opinion one of the best places to find Fiero related information, and will always be a valuable resource.
yellow fever SEP 03, 02:48 PM
resolving the matter

[This message has been edited by yellow fever (edited 09-03-2007).]