I think we all need to cheer Archie up... (Page 3/20)
JohnnyK JUL 16, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by Formula88:


Be sure to look in the mirror when you say that. The knife cuts both ways.


I am aware of that. And I'll remind you of it also now. Perhaps we all need to be reminded of it.

YellowRooster JUL 16, 01:41 PM
I have a very hard time believing this thread was to cheer anyone up.

Darth Fiero JUL 16, 02:51 PM
It was my intention that this thread was NOT an attack on Archie. I just wanted to bring to light some things that I have observed lately. Archie has this bad habit of chasing people around and bashing them at every turn, hell he even admitted that he does it, or is willing to do it in that quote. Why are you people so intent on defending him? In my opinion you are not helping matters, all you are doing is encouraging him to continue doing the same crap day in and day out. If Archie can't grow up and deal with a few "jerks" on the internet then he deserves all the attacks he gets. Personally I would rather not see all of the posts get clogged up with flame wars. I don't have a problem with the internet. I don't lose sleep at night if someone flames me on here. I know the work I have done is my reputation, not some crap that gets said about me on here on PFF.

That is my whole point. This kind of crap needs to leave the PFF community. Yes, part of the problem are the instigators but most of it happens because of people like Archie who bring upon themselves by being so quick to lash out at people. I think everyone here who is defending Archie needs to PM him and tell him to take a pill. It's just the internet. I mean, if things people were saying about him on here were not true, then why get so upset out it? Nobody is going to remember or care 2 months from now something that gets said today. What people will remember is someone who has a very short fuse and they will always be eager to light it.

Like I said before Archie needs to calm down before he hurts himself. If he can't handle the heat then he needs to stay out of the kitchen. As for you people who think you need to attack or bash me because I brought this up, go right ahead, it's just the internet, it's not like it really matters, nor that I would really care. What I do care about is the PFF community. I would just like to see the BS calm down or stop here on PFF so this community can return to a better place where people feel FREE to offer their opinions and help without the FEAR of getting attacked by the great "V8 Archie and his dedicated followers".

I'm Back JUL 16, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Formula88:

The people who like to take pot shots at Archie are missing a very important point.
They are NOT the first ones to do it. It might have been funny - in 1986 when he was getting started.

It's like the fast gun in town. Every little punk and wannabe wants to take a crack at him. Some may be faster, or not, but they all talk a big game. This is nothing new. People have been taking jabs at Archie since before I joined the Forum, so he's heard it all before, and I imagine he's tired of the same old bull. Then some new guy all full of spit and vinegar joins the forum and wants to make a name for himself, so he masterminds some great debate against Archie. Only the names have changed. The BS has stayed the same.

Do you ever get tired of ignorant people bashing Fieros and having to hear the same stupid drivel over and over again?
-They catch on fire...
-They're death traps...
-My buddy had one and fill in the blank...

Well, that's how I'd feel listening to everyone bash me if I were Archie.

But considering the amount of business he does, I don't think anyone here is going to impact his wallet. He's been doing V8 Fieros since long before PFF was here - and I wager he'll be doing it after PFF has finally been shutdown because Cliff finally gets fed up. Unless he retires first. Remember, a lot of his customers join PFF after he does a V8 swap for them. I knew about V8Archie long before I knew PFF even existed.

Before you start attacking someone like Archie who's been helping the Fiero community for a long time, ask yourself what you were doing to help Fiero owners back in 1986, 87, 88..... ?


Building the dog house is noble, but it doesn't give you license to kick the dog...
LZeitgeist JUL 16, 03:45 PM
If I built a dog house for a dog, and the appreciation I got shown for it was a bite, I'd damn sure kick it.
JohnnyK JUL 16, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by LZeitgeist:

If I built a dog house for a dog, and the appreciation I got shown for it was a bite, I'd damn sure kick it.


please. He gets enough appreciate from the people who follow him around and praise him..

I Annoy JUL 16, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Mastermind:

Well, as most of you know I have a 4.9 and I'm very enthusiastic about of I have no problem sharing. It could be coincidential but there seems to be a rush of people installing 4.9s of late.


umm, correct me if I am wrong but.... do you think you have had that much influence on this board that people are swapping in 4.9's based on your recommendation..................?

You are no Jon or Pete (Rockcrawl or PBJ) You think a lot more highly of yourself than others here do.

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Formula88 JUL 16, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by LZeitgeist:

If I built a dog house for a dog, and the appreciation I got shown for it was a bite, I'd damn sure kick it.


Especially when the dogs that do all the yapping aren't my dogs and I didn't build the doghouse for them.

Oh, and Johnny, thanks for the reminder to look in the mirror. Next time I'm telling someone they got what they deserved, I'll remember it. Although I haven't told anyone that in a long, long time.

California Kid JUL 16, 05:14 PM
A. Archie doesn't need a hug.
B. Archie doesn't need help when dealing with Trolls, although I'm sure he apprecaites it if someone stands up for him in defense, just like anyone of us would feel in a similar situation.
C. I've never seen Archie attack anyone, who didn't have it coming from posts they've made. He doesn't draw first blood.
D. Archies rating bar shows that he has made very significant contributions to this Forum.

I could go on further, but you get the point. For those of you thinking I posted this because I have an Archie Kit, think again, his kit is not in my car, and I've never purchased anything from him. I do however "Respect" him for what he has contributed to this Forum and the Fiero Community.

You guys can say all you want about Sacrid Cows and the Rating System; but I've been here a while, I don't see any Cows running around, and the Red Bars next to the User Name were deserved 99.9% of the time. Of course that's my opinion, nothing to get excited about, I'm just one guy.

Note to Mastermind: Your attitude and lame justification for your posts are pushing you quickly to the permanent exit door. Of course that's just my observation, I could be wrong.

Rant over.

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JohnnyK JUL 16, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by Formula88:


Oh, and Johnny, thanks for the reminder to look in the mirror. Next time I'm telling someone they got what they deserved, I'll remember it. Although I haven't told anyone that in a long, long time.


Wait.. are you insulting me? I can't even tell anymore.